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duke wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 06:21:30 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: >

Big mistake there. Honor is given to us by the one and only almighty God. You

may not accept God's presence, but if you have honor, you are responding

positively to our God who calls us to love one another as he loves us.

That explains why Duke slanders Obama by claiming that he "admitted in

an interview that he was of the muslim faith".


He did. It was an interview videotaped and played on the news. I saw it for

myself. The interviewer had to correct him when he said it.


Well I recently posted that a year has 265 days. People have brain farts. You take people's brain farts and run with them.


Jahbulon wrote:

"Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess"

<goddess@fidemturbare.com wrote in

news:JNRdr.14251$FA4.10419@newsfe03.iad:


What evidence is there,

apart from the bible,

that Jesus actually existed?

Book of Moron.

Many people have told me that's Zaboor-ing one.


Book of Mormon is not a witness to Jesus Christ apart from The Bible

because it says the same as The Bible.

Naw, it says different things than the Bible. Jesus is an ass-kicker rather than the Prince of Peace in the BOM.

The city of Zarahemla caught on fire.

The city of Moroni sank into the sea.

A volcano erupted inside the city of Moronihah until the city was covered by a great mountain.

Earthquakes leveled many other cities. Tornadoes carried many people away to parts unknown. Boulders were cracked in two. Roads were broken up, buildings toppled, and many people were killed.

All of these things happened in the space of three hours.

Then it was dark for three days, and no candle nor torch could be kindled to shed light. There was no sun nor moon nor stars.

Then a great voice was heard in the darkness taking credit for burning Zarahemla and drowning Moroni and covering Moronihah with earth to hide their iniquities from his face. He also mentioned causing the city of Gilgal to be swallowed up by the earth and a number of other cities to be covered by water. Other towns he destroyed with fire from heaven like Sodom and Gomorrah.

Everyone who was still alive, he said, was spared because they were more righteous than those cities. He asks if they will come to him and be blessed.

This is kind of like the Terminator killing everone in the police station, but leaving one or two cops alive and then saying, "Won't you be my friend?"


Free Lunch wrote:


Why not? The fact that life exists here is very strong evidence that

life of some sort will exist elsewhere to everyone who doesn't think

that God treated earth as a unique situation.

It's evidence that life exists here, that's all. If we measure methane in an oxidizing atmosphere around another planet, that's evidence of cow farts there. Sorry to pop your bubble, but that's how science works.


Free Lunch wrote:

On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 18:08:35 +0200, MelissA <melis@a.com wrote in

alt.atheism:


On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 11:43:11 -0400 HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote: > >

What evidence is there for life outside of Earth?

None.


Direct evidence? None. Indirect? The existence of life on earth.

That's like saying, I have a bloody glove in Seattle, that's indirect evidence that OJ killed Nicole Brown Simpson in LA.


HVAC wrote: On 3/31/2012 4:12 PM, linuxgal wrote: > >

We have many examples of lifeless planets in our solar system. > >

So far, we have a good working hypotheses. If x is the number of

planets, the number of planets with no life is x-1.


Put in another way, out of the possible trillions of planets in our

galaxy, we know of only one that has life.


When evidence comes in of extraterrestrial life, we'll have a big worldwide party. Until then, all such claims remain in the realm of the paranormal.


Jeff M wrote:


Ironically, racism is part of the human condition,

and something we all have in common, regardless of our own race.


Being politically correct means always having to say you're sorry.


duke wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 05:46:50 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:19:42 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > duke wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia

As with sexual preference in general, it is not known what causes someone to

prefer a pubescent rather than an adult individual for sexual reasons.

I agree, but your Roman Curia seems to "know" it's caused by

homosexuality, which is my point.


How does homosexuality **CAUSE** pedophilia as opposed to pedophilia being a

sick side track?

I don't know, Duke. Take it up with the number two guy at the Vatican who says pedophilia is caused by homosexuality, as cited in earlier posts.


duke wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:16:38 -0700, "Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess" <goddess@fidemturbare.com wrote:


On 2012-Mar-31 15:03, linuxgal wrote: ThomMadura wrote: >

Over the last few years - duke has proclaimed often that he has 100%

evidence of the existence of his god

Well, it must be like the 100% evidence for Noah's Ark, Bigfoot, flying

saucers, and the telegram where Bobby Kennedy orders the hit on Norma

Jean Baker. He can't reveal it to us right now because it would result

in too much social shock and disorientation.

Actually, the evidence for flying saucers tends to be more credible than

evidence for deities or supernatural agents, despite the blurry and

vague nature of the evidence presented for flying saucers.


NOt hardly. We see the universe willed into existence by God. We've never seen

a flying saucer, except at somebody's head by the old lady.

We watched Forbidden Planet last night, there was a flying saucer in that film.


duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:12:59 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


You provide no support for there being no descent with variation. Your

claims of the intervention of a deity are dismissed automatically.


That's ok with me. It's your funeral, not mine.


Mortality rate for non-believers: 100 %

Mortality rate for believers: 100%


duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:54:31 -0400, ThomMadura <Tommadura@optonline.net wrote:


On 3/31/2012 1:56 PM, duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:14:57 -0800, linuxgal<linuxgal@cleanposts.com

wrote:

> duke wrote: > No, it IS correct. I waste my time preparing an answer and you just say "that's > not evidence". When you are prepared to explain your support for why there is > no God, then I can then say "that's not support". A discussion is meaningless > unless you are prepared to meet me half way.

There is an invisible elf green named Kazoo who rides on my shoulder. A

discussion about his existence is meaningless unless you are prepared to

meet me half way.

I don't BELIEVE in an invisible elf green named kazoo.

So then YOU admit you are an ATHEKAZOOIST then!


I don't know. I've never seen one. But linuxgal says she has one on her

shoulder.


When you are prepared to explain your support for why there is no Kazoo, then I can say "that's not support".


duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:22:22 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us wrote:


Duke has made it clear that he knows that he does not have any evidence

at all to support his special religious claims


Au contraire. God willed the universe into existence 13.7 billion years ago.


I have a competing theory with exactly the same level of support. Advanced but non-divine life forms (or possibly their independent machines) in a previous universe engineered this new universe 13.7 billion years ago because their own universe had reached heat death.


duke wrote:

>

Better - I did not read Duke's comments and never god a headache!


But now Good is condemning you to hell.


My Goodness!


• R. L. Measures. wrote:

In article <-_adnRg5vZjpxeXSnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


• R. L. Measures. wrote: >

• Here in California we get to vote on California Supreme Court

appointees. I think we should be able to do the same thing nationally.

Justice Scalia needs to go since he goes more by the Republican Party

platform than he goes by the Constitution. >

<eyeroll>But Ginsburg, Sotomayor, Kagan, and Breyer are just moderates

like most Americans who never legislate from the bench.</eyeroll>


• If they don't make agenda-based decisions they will likely be approved

by the electorate.


The Constitution does not say the judges need to make their decisions in such a way that they are approved by the electorate.


Xavier Onnasis wrote:

>

yes, this really is amazing, isn't it...because scientists throughout

the world recognize that the world is warming as a direct result of

human activity...

Which paper did you read that asserts the eleven year solar cycle and the effects of the thirty year Pacific Decadal Oscillation are secondary to human causes?


Jason wrote:


You are 100% incorrect. There was a story in the newspaper last week

indicating that he wants the family members of legal immigrants to become

legal immigrants.


This is how they can do it. Go home, and apply at the US embassy in their home country for a visa.



Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Apr-01 17:17, linuxgal wrote:

>

The Constitution does not say the judges need to make their decisions in

such a way that they are approved by the electorate.


...but it is certainly implied for those judges who are elected. >

Then you see the scope of the problem in the case of the SCOTUS. It will require an amendment to the Constitution removing this power from the President and Senate.



Barry OGrady wrote:


There are good, objective, secular grounds why homosexuals can't

fulfill the obligations of being a parent.


If you're thinking breast-feeding, I would answer that lesbians are homosexuals too.


ThomMadura wrote: On 4/1/2012 3:14 PM, duke wrote:

>

>

I can do anything I want to.


YOU can only do what is possible for you to do.

And posting proof of a deity is not possible for him to do.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Apr-01 08:35, linuxgal wrote: >

Well I recently posted that a year has 265 days. People have brain

farts. You take people's brain farts and run with them.


Ha ha! I just assumed you made a typo regarding Venus which has 225

days in a year.


225 earth days maybe. 117 Venus days, retrograde, from noon to noon.


duke wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 12:44:39 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


I have a competing theory with exactly the same level of support.

Advanced but non-divine life forms (or possibly their independent

machines) in a previous universe engineered this new universe 13.7

billion years ago because their own universe had reached heat death.


Except that there was no previous universe because there was nothing before -

creation a simple and sudden appearance of something from nothingness into

nothingness.


What is your evidence there were no universes prior to 13.7 billion years ago?


Jason wrote:

In article <-_adnRo5vZjXxOXSnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote: >

Not true. If they claim that mankind evolved from an ape-like creature--it

has not been proved to be true. > >

We didn't evolve FROM ape-like creatures, we ARE ape-like creatures.



That may apply to you but not to me or the members of my family or any of

my relatives.


You should be proud of our family line, we're at the top of the food chain.


duke wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 12:38:52 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:12:59 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: >

You provide no support for there being no descent with variation. Your

claims of the intervention of a deity are dismissed automatically.

That's ok with me. It's your funeral, not mine.


Mortality rate for non-believers: 100 %

Mortality rate for believers: 100%


Exactly:

A home in hell - right at 100% for nonbelievers.

A home in heaven - >90% for believers. >

Anyone who believes in a theology where a supernatural being tortures people with infinite aqony for an infinite time who, according to the evidence of their senses that entity allegedly created, came to the conclusion that the universe operates perfectly well without the action of a conscious agent....deserves it.


Jason wrote:


I have seen all of them--including the last one. The writers of those

movies seemed to believe that humans evolved from apes. It's also possible

that they believed that humans were a species of apes.


Humans are a species of ape.

Put twelve fundies in a concrete box behind glass, sans clothes, and they will screech unintelligibly about "gays" and "Jesus" and throw shit at each other.



duke wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:14:31 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 05:50:29 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > duke wrote: > I had a black cat cross my path leaving Church yesterday. I was a nervous wreck > for over 2 hours. >>

That's what happens when you get a weekly megaboost of superstition like

that.

Hey, I'm only human. They didn't kill all those black cats for nothing.


Yes they did. For nothing. They believed those cats were "familiar

spirits". And they dishonored the Creator by killing them.


Let's see. You're getting very close to zero purpose in discussion now.


I will consider that a plonk, Duke. And consider yourself plonked back.



Mulligan wrote: On Apr 2, 11:01 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br wrote:


There will be no nuclear war.


Because you typed it onto suenet?

Sue Net was when we had Steve Winter.


raven1 wrote:

On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 10:08:53 -0400, Witziges Rätsel <zer@roer.invalid.com wrote:


On 4/2/2012 9:43 AM, GSI wrote: >

- what about Iran and

Nobody knows for sure whether Iran has nuclear weapons.


Who claims that they do?

The ones that wanna send Americans to war. Same lies as with Saddam's WMDs, different decade.


Mulligan wrote:

>

Under NATO nuclear weapons sharing, the United States has provided

nuclear weapons for Belgium,[41] Germany,[41] Italy, the Netherlands,

[41] and Turkey[41] to deploy and store.[42] This involves pilots and

other staff of the "non-nuclear" NATO states practicing, handling, and

delivering the U.S. nuclear bombs, and adapting non-U.S. warplanes to

deliver U.S. nuclear bombs. U.S. nuclear weapons were also deployed in

Canada until 1984, South Korea until 1991, and in Greece until 2001

for nuclear sharing purposes

Pakistan has the same arrangement with Saudi Arabia, the instant Iran nukes up.


Jim Austin wrote: On Mar 30, 11:18 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br wrote:


<Snip>


It's the dumbing down of America, brought to you by our good friends,

the conservatives:


Since public education is totally under control of the liberal

contingent, the dumbing down of America, where a good chunk of high

school graduates are unable to read their own diplomas, can't be

blamed on conservatives.

You tell it, Jim. Speak truth to power! Students are also coming out of high school these days believing the Earth is 4.56 billion years old and a whole bunch of other unbiblical stuff the godless monkey-huggers are teaching them.


BroilJAB wrote:

Al Einstein acknowledged a Creator.

Fallacy of argument from authority.


Warhol wrote: On Apr 3, 12:39 am, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...@btinternet.com wrote: >

Why would something weigh nothing because it is in a vacuum?


Vacuum of space(heaven)... in free fall you are weightless...


So the Pringles inside a vacuum-packed can should be floating. Cool.


Mitchell Holman wrote:


 I pointed out to him long ago that some whales 

are born with legs and feet, proving their land

ancestry. He disappeared.


If this was a call-in radio show, you'd hear: Click! (Dial Tone)



John Baker wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 05:42:53 -0700 (PDT), Ray Fischer Buggers Little Boys <RayFischerFuksLittleBoys@yahoo.com wrote:


Whoops! Obozo Has The Worst Week Of His Presiduncey!

Maybe The Worst Week In History


Not unless you can magically erase eight years of Dubya.


I dunno, I think his worst week was insulting the Supreme Court in the State of the Union Address when he had his signature legislation coming in front of it.


Brad Guth wrote:


How many photons does it take to create an electron?

One photon with a frequency that corresponds to the rest mass of an electron (500,000 electron volts) by the famous mass-energy equivalence formula.


BroilJAB wrote:

Lincoln's plan: Deport all Blacks back.

How do you deport someone who is born here? Where do they go?


BroilJAB wrote:

Trayvon was FRAMED.

So was OJ.

Humpty Dumpty was pushed!


BroilJAB wrote:

Evolutionism taught at one time that

man 'has 180 vestigial organs'. LOL

In your case, the frontal lobe is one of the 180.


BroilJAB wrote:

If you would enter into Life,

KEEP the Commandments.

"Take up your cross and follow Me."

Which is it?


Waldo Tunnel wrote: On Mar 30, 3:33 pm, US4ZION <us4z...@gmail.com wrote:


Ps 53:1 "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God."


So if even a fool knows it, how stupid does that make you?

RIMSHOT::


David Fritzinger wrote: >

Elect a Republican president along with a Republican Congress and you

will complete the transformation of the US to a third world country.

After all, they don't want to spend any money on research,

infrastructure, or anything else that will improve the future of the

country.

How about letting people keep more of their own money? That's a brighter future right there.


JTEM wrote:


Of course, you being a moron, you'll say ANYTHING that

promotes Obama and the neo-con agenda.


Obama a neo-con, that's rich.


Mitchell Holman wrote:

Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in


They have stopped many of his proposals from becoming laws.



   What proposals?


A new agency to man road blocks on the interstate to check tire pressure and write tickets.


HVAC wrote: On 4/2/2012 8:23 AM, W.T.S. wrote: > >

Why? Why not just pay the mom 500 bucks to get an abortion? >

That's the last choice - the worst of all.

No, aborting a fetus is a noble thing, the Mother should be rewarded as

a living Saint! >

So much simpler. And we have lots of uses for aborted fetuses.

Yes, medical research comes to mind.



Have you seen any of the stories lately regarding hamburger

and 'pink slime'?

Back in the seventies we used to have green slime in these little plastic garbage cans. Tasted like soap. I liked pop rocks better. I had myself some pet pop rocks.


HVAC wrote: On 4/2/2012 2:53 PM, Warhol wrote: > > >

According to the Talmud, under “nine years and one day,” the “first

stage of intercourse” of a boy with the mother, or any grown woman, is

harmless.



That is mother-fucking funny!



A little boy asks his dad, "What’s between mom’s legs?"

The father answers, "Paradise, my son."

The kid asks again, "What’s between your legs?"

The father replies, "The key to paradise"

The son says, "Piece of advice dad, change the lock, the neighbour has a duplicate key."


default wrote:

On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 04:02:58 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


duke wrote: >

Let's see. You're getting very close to zero purpose in discussion now. >

I will consider that a plonk, Duke. And consider yourself plonked back. >


Duke can't plonk anyone - it is just he and his ilk that talk to each

other these days.


I plonked him before Patrick.

What are you gonna do? Nice college boy, didn't want to get mixed up in the family business. Now you want to plonk a troll. Why? Because he slapped you in the face a little? What do you think this like the Army where you can shoot 'em from a mile away? No you gotta get up like this and, badda-bing, you blow their brains all over your nice Ivy League suit. C'mere.

[Kisses Default on the head]

You're taking this very personal. Tom, this is business and this man is taking it very, very personal.



Wretch Fossil wrote:

The Age of Earth Is Terribly Wrong.


The age of Earth is currently estimated at 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years

(ref. 1). That age is terribly wrong, as the real age of Earth is at

least 45.4 billion years.

Three times older than the hydrogen and helium that was cooked up in POP I stars to make the elements that comprise the earth. Cool.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote:


One of the requirements of proving UFOs is identifying them, and once a

UFO has been identified (e.g., bird, plane, helicopter, weather balloon,

fancy kite, etc.) it's ceases to be classifiable as a UFO.


Unfortunately, true believers insist on immediately identifying them as flying saucers driven by grays from Canopus. So we're really talking about IFOs.


chibiabos wrote:



Any teenie who can handle a compound bow is okay in my book.


It's so easy on Wii.


Free Lunch wrote:



Societies that work invest for the future. They don't know who will be

the beneficiaries, but they still do it because it is good. Letting

greed control eventually destroys a society.

"Greed is good." -- Adam Smith, paraphrased by way of Gordon Gecko channeling John Galt.


THE BORG wrote:

Men and women should be very aware of the huge differences

between them. They should be acutely aware of this.

Men do what men do and women do what women do, and never the

twain shall mix.


So you and your buddies say at the bathhouse.


Kulin wrote:


A three-judge panel for the 5th Circuit Court of

Appeals on Tuesday ordered the Justice Department to

explain by Thursday whether the administration

believes judges have the power to strike down a

federal law.




Professor Obama taught Constitutional law at Harvard, believe it or not.


Logan Sacket wrote:


There are many reasons the earth could be billions of

years old and yet stand the test of Bibilical theology. However, I

can't rule it out either way. All that you should worry about is that

God created it.

Why should I worry about that?


duke wrote:


I want to spend all eternity with God in heaven. You want to spend all eternity

in the fires of hell with satan. It's very clear.

Actually the fires are in heaven, in the very presence of the holy angels and the Lamb. To go to heaven is to be a spectator at an eternal torture chamber.

REV 14:10-11 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.


Jason wrote:


One example is canines--yes lots of evolution related to canines has taken

place--but there is no evidence that canines have evolved into creatures

that are not canines. This also applies to the whales that God created.


Jason, Baraminologist Extraordinaire.



thomas p. wrote:


Of course it is only a special right for homosexuals, for everyone else it

is a civil right.

Prior to 1967 it was a special right for blacks to marry whites.


Jason wrote:


Jews are God's chosen people.


They were unchosen, according to Jesus.

MATT 22:

[8] Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

[9] Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.



WangoTango wrote:

In article <x-idnWsSG8Mu0-fSnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,

linuxgal@cleanposts.com says... Warhol wrote: On Apr 3, 12:39 am, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...@btinternet.com wrote: >

Why would something weigh nothing because it is in a vacuum?

Vacuum of space(heaven)... in free fall you are weightless... >

So the Pringles inside a vacuum-packed can should be floating. Cool. >

How do you know they don't?

;)


We should lobby for a clear plastic can.


Jason wrote:


Guessing based on the fact that God created two perfect people.


Sure, so perfect they couldn't even follow simple instructions to stay the hell away from one of the trees in the garden.



Jason wrote:


The subject was Christian books--see above. The Christian book was related

to Mt. St. Helens.


I went to Mt. St. Helens and checked it out, Jason. There's no Christian stuff there.

http://www.cleanposts.com/images/thumb/0/09/DSC02327.JPG/800px-DSC02327.JPG


HVAC wrote: On 4/2/2012 4:54 PM, Bill Snyder wrote: > > >

All you dipshits using google are now history. >

Smell ya later...... >

On my news server, it looks like theathroom fixture of your

choice

just overflowed and dumped a ton of gg stuff on us.



Ya. Most kooks haven't a clue about setting up a newsreader.


Those using google had a back up of about 4 days, then the

shit hit the fan.


WE are the lucky recipients.


So instead of Eternal September, it's Eternal Monday.


<b>Alan Ferris wrote:

On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:49:43 +0200, Daniel Hoehr <daniel.hoehr@gmx.net wrote:


Am 31.03.2012 14:36, schrieb HVAC:

Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal

conditions should be allowed to end their own lives? >

No. Clearly not.


Why not?

There's a level of pain that will buy Duke.


duke wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 17:37:25 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


>

What is your evidence there were no universes prior to 13.7 billion

years ago?


Nobody can see that far back.


So with no way to falsify your claim, you claimed it.


Jason wrote:


The Bible does not state which types of whales that God created.


The Bible is confused on the whole topic. It has Jonah swallowed by a fish.

Jonah 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.



Barry OGrady wrote:

On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 09:48:54 +0200, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote: >

Then having a popular vote on allowing Catholics, Jews, Lutherans,

left-handed people, bald people to adopt etc. would be fine?


Jews should not be allowed to adopt or marry..


That solution sounds Final.


Alex W. wrote:


The United States has 2% of the world's oil reserves. That is

TWO PER CENT. You CANNOT drill your way to cheap oil.

It sure as shit ain't getting any cheaper when you don't drill.


Dante wrote:

No one on Earth has been to Heaven before.

You will not go to Heaven until AFTER Judgement Day.


A Day is not really a Day, a Day is a "Time".


Better to refer to is as Judgement Time, rather than Judgement Day.



Better yet, refer to it as Judgment Time so your spell checker don't red-line it.


W.T.S. wrote:


Good point. Kansas isn't too hot on social welfare programs, housing

for the poor, health care, schools and so on. They do build a lot of

nice prisons, which will start of fill up nicely in about 18 years from

now. The families of wealthy girls will just go to New York. How nice.


Spent three weeks learning to program wire harness testers in KCMO but my hotel was in downtown Kansas City, Kansas. What a sad, blighted town that is. I'd never seen ghost malls before.


Jason wrote:

In article <XnsA02AD6F0431B9nomailcomcastnet@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net wrote:


   Funny he didn't lift a finger to help them

during the Holocaust. >



He left it up to people on the earth to deal with Hitler.


Wow, Jason, I guess you're right, there really is a God. I betcha his favorite song goes, "Take good care/Of my business/When I'm away/Every day!"

I chose a beautiful house on a two hundred foot bluff of glacial till overlooking Puget Sound and rented it out to some folks. Over the years erosion caused the bluff to unmine the foundation and now the house is sagging. My tenants keep begging me to jack up the house and reinforce the foundation with new concrete, but I left it up to the people in my house to deal with the erosion, because I included a "free will" clause in their lease.



Jason wrote:


I believe the information is in the Old Testament. God blessed Abraham,

Isaac, Jacob and Joseph--they were all Jews. I seem to recall reading that

Abraham is the ancestor of all Jews and Muslims.

In precisely the same way Paul Bunyan is the ancestor of all loggers.



Jason wrote:

In article tidnY2Nu95ONObSnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <b> <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote: >

The Bible does not state which types of whales that God created. >

The Bible is confused on the whole topic. It has Jonah swallowed by a fish. >

Jonah 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah.

And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.



That's correct.


Then again, not entirely unexpected. The Bible also calls bats birds, thinks rabbits chew the cud, and thinks insects have four legs.


Jason wrote:

In article tidnZGNu95vP-bSnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <b> <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote: >

The subject was Christian books--see above. The Christian book was related

to Mt. St. Helens. >

I went to Mt. St. Helens and checked it out, Jason. There's no

Christian stuff there. >

http://www.cleanposts.com/images/thumb/0/09/DSC02327.JPG/800px-DSC02327.JPG


LOL--You would need to read the book to find the location of that

Christian stuff that is there.


I read in a book that Mt. St. Helens started to form thirty thousand years before the biblically accepted date of Creation 6,000 years ago.



Jason wrote:

In article <9Mednf_iSPvvAubSnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote: >

Guessing based on the fact that God created two perfect people. >

Sure, so perfect they couldn't even follow simple instructions to stay

the hell away from one of the trees in the garden.


They had free will and it was easy for Satan to influence Eve since she

had no experence dealing with liars.

If she was a perfect person, God would have created her with built-in experience dealing with liars.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Apr-03 09:44, duke wrote:

On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 12:50:28 -0700, "Fidem Turbare, the non-existent >

So does that mean you support evolution now? >

Always have.


Does this not conflict with your belief in a deity?


What does man need with a Savior if there was no Fall? Evolution says man is experiencing a constant Rise.


Tom McDonald wrote:


To be fair, other than farm animals, who else was there with whom to be

fruitful, multiply and replenish the Earth?


God brought all the animals to Adam, but he didn't like any of them, so he broke down and made a woman.


Mulligan wrote:

For those of us who do, your lack of belief seems very strange.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/147887/americans-continue-believe-god.aspx


PRINCETON, NJ -- More than 9 in 10 Americans still say "yes" when

asked the basic question "Do you believe in God?";

For centuries most people believed the Earth was flat, didn't make it one iota flatter.


Uirgil wrote:

In article <e97pn7tlosalhh4fh1nkou78c4pl3rcjcb@4ax.com>,

duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net

wrote:


Bloomberg - While Republicans promote themselves

as the friendliest party for Wall Street, stock investors

do better when Democrats occupy the White House.

then why was it the highest ever when George Bush was President?


The market crashed while Bush was President,


just like when Hoover was President.


The two biggest crashes ever and both under Republican administrations.

This is a republic, I'm not "under" any Administration, Donk or Pub. They're our servants.


BroilJAB wrote:

Now Obama has put out a Murder Bounty

on a Moslem Cleric in a sovereign nation

that the US is not at war against.

On this day in 1968, Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated at a hotel in Memphis, Tenn. He was 39 years old.


John Manning wrote:



Despite Republicans' attempts to portray

President Obama as bad for Israel, 62 percent

of American Jewish voters want him to be reelected...

Dr. Josef Mengele could run for President and US Jews would vote for him, as long as he had a D after his name.


Religious Intolerance Exposed wrote:


Armed Islamist rebel groups in Syria supported by the Obama

administration and Western governments seeking to oust “President”

Bashir al-Assad are engaged in “ethnic cleansing” of Christians,

according to news reports and human rights organizations.

Normally this sort of news would make me upset, but the Christians are supporting Assad in Syria as he shoots and tortures protesters, so it's case of what goes around comes around.


Mulligan wrote: On Apr 4, 8:12 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Mulligan wrote:

For those of us who do, your lack of belief seems very strange.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/147887/americans-continue-believe-god.aspx

PRINCETON, NJ -- More than 9 in 10 Americans still say "yes" when

asked the basic question "Do you believe in God?";

For centuries most people believed the Earth was flat, didn't make it

one iota flatter.


We are talking about the current time period sir and this country and

it appears that the non believers will soon go the way of the dodo.


You on the wrong side of history on this one, chump

Now if I can only get you to believe I'm a Linux gal.


Jason wrote:

>

My answer--for the most part--since 1560. Perhaps some of the people that

could read Greek knew about the rapture prior to 1560.


Nope, pre-trib rapture was a product of dispensationalism, pulled out of JNB Darby's ass in 1830.



Free Lunch wrote:


But Republicans prefer the famously anti-religious Ayn Rand, so we can

ignore them when they claim to be Christian.

Lots of horrible things have been done to others in the name of a religion, in the name of freedom, democracy, communism, socialism, conservatism, liberalism, etc. Each are someone's religion, someone's "church." Ayn Rand had Objectivism and she ran it like any other cult.


Jason wrote:


When Satan told Eve that "you shall be as gods...." That was a lie.



What was false about it, since the serpent narrowed the godlike property he was talking about to merely knowing the difference between good and evil?


Jason wrote:


Satan probably would have tried lying to Adam if he was the first person

to visit the tree.


Would of, could of, should of, how about sticking to the text. Sola Scriptura and all that.


Jason wrote:


God does not program humans.


On the contrary, it is written (Romans 9:21) Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?




Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:



Christians still kill and persecute? Give me an example in the last 100

years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre



HVAC wrote:



Gravity began after the big bang.

Everything else, including time, as well.

If time began "after" the big bang, what were they using for time during the actual bang?


Tyler Dresden wrote:

In heaven we will be neither male or female and in the new birth, in

the new mind, we are not to consider ourselves as male or female in

Christ.


Karma karma karma chameleon.


duke wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 04:14:15 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Apr-03 09:44, duke wrote:

On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 12:50:28 -0700, "Fidem Turbare, the non-existent > > So does that mean you support evolution now?

Always have.

Does this not conflict with your belief in a deity?


What does man need with a Savior if there was no Fall? Evolution says

man is experiencing a constant Rise.


Who said there was no fall?

Christianity says Man started perfect and became pond scum. Evolution says we started pond scum and became Man.


duke wrote:

On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 22:00:00 -0700, "Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess" <goddess@fidemturbare.com wrote:

>

That's not light -- it's an illusion.


God is the light.

In the beginning man said, "Let there be God."


duke wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:58:28 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us wrote:


Says people with an agenda to control others. God never said anything.


I talk with God every day before breakfast.


"I can't believe that!" said Alice.

"Can't you?" the queen said in a pitying tone. "Try again, draw a long breath, and shut your eyes."

"Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she said; "one can't believe impossible things."

"I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."


RD Sandman wrote:


Hmmmm, I have listened to the 911 audio several times and read a lot of

the news reports. I wasn't aware the Zimmerman was busting Martin for

illegal drug possession. Amazing fact......


Yeah, if you put Skittles in your nose it makes you feel high.


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

He's already made remarks about wanting Britain to "return to

Christian values", imposing Christianity in schools etc and now...


http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/apr/04/david-cameron-god-easter

And Her Majesty's Navy needs to go back to running on rum, sodomy, and the lash.


kensmithiscool wrote: On Apr 3, 3:30 pm, KabukiBob <fvrn...@yahoo.com wrote: >

Nightline appearance until a few days ago when you Twittered it as

rescheduled for April 5th.


Does that bother you, toodles? Isn't it possible that BL announced

the Nightline appearance and it somehow escaped you?  :D


"Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward." -- Master Je Tzu


BroilJAB wrote:

After the ACLU and Clarene Darrow lost

in a firestorm at the Scopes Trial, then

Evolution was never again included in a

text book for 44 years.


Yeah, after Sputnik, America quit fucking around and got serious about science.


Stormin Mormon wrote:

I didn't read this group for a year or so. Not much changed. I'll probably

read a few more posts, and then walk away for another year or so.


That's a shame, I liked your posts back in the Day.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:


It is true. Most athiests on this chat board hate God and Jesus Christ,

even though they might not believe in them. You don't have to believe

in something to hate it. For example: Doesn't everybody hate Gargamel?

I hate his guts. Anybody who loves Gargamel is a bad person.

From the Hebrew Gargam-El (Expectorate of God)


Barry OGrady wrote:


If Genesis is true God is running a protection racket.


Dats a nice eternal soul you got dere, be a shame if something happened to it.


.MattB. wrote:

>

Romney strengthened his grip on the GOP nomination by virtue of

winning the three states

DC must be one of the 57 states.


lsrlts wrote: On 4/4/2012 9:48 AM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:


No, I don't. Nor does anyone else need to. Society doesn't need

moral absolutes. Society is ruled by law, not "morality".


All laws reflect basic morality, fool.


All laws. Sure.

Constitution I-2-iii: Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.


Jeanne Douglas wrote:

In article <jlivcg$um7$1@dont-email.me>,

"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasmulletstein@isalwaysright.com

wrote:


"Syd M." <pauldavidwright@yahoo.com wrote in message

news:cc99870b-42fb-468c-b93c-06817e05463c@l30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 3, 8:34 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com wrote:

Athiests hate God so much that they're about to pop.

Repeating yer lies will not make them true, Zachy.

It is true. Most athiests on this chat board hate God and Jesus Christ,

even though they might not believe in them. You don't have to believe in

something to hate it. For example: Doesn't everybody hate Gargamel? I hate

his guts. Anybody who loves Gargamel is a bad person.


Who the hell is Gargamel?


He's the implacable foe of the Smurfs.


John Doe wrote:


Remove the wind turbines, allow the air to flow freely across the

Earth's surface, and thereby promote global cooling.

Air movement, by itself, doesn't cool on a global scale. Maybe locally.

 Ultimately the earth eliminates heat only by emitting infrared photons 

into the night sky.


Richard Steel wrote:

In candid study, Chinese scholar sees U.S. decline


Oh, a Chinese scholar? What could be more objective that THAT?


The body and soul of the country will meet the same fate as all other bodies and all other souls.


Tracey12 wrote:

Reporting from Washington—


The Supreme Court's conservative justices said Wednesday they are

prepared to strike down President Obama’s healthcare law entirely.


And the liberal justices drank the grape kool aid. So all eyes are on Kennedy.


Alan Ferris wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 06:36:44 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:


But a Catholic obeys dogma


Clearly you and Barker are not Catholic then and you fail to follow

such dogma. Neither are many bishops, as catholic dogma neither

supports lying or the rape of children.


Catholic dogma does not support racism.


duke wrote:


But a Catholic obeys dogma, which is truth revealed by God. At least a muslim

or a hindu or an agnostic or a non-religious are not atheists looking forward to

the flames.

What happens if you die and you find out Jesus is half-black, because Miriam was an Ethiopian Jew? You gonna call him Buckwheat?


duke wrote:


Man, dem blak folk jes kep sprdng dem leg.


You're talking major purgo time, duke, the way you represent Holy Mother Church to unbelievers.


Catpain 'Merca wrote:


If you examine closely you'll find that almost all Pentecostals smear

themselves with gravy.

They call it getting smeared with gravy in the Spirit.


duke wrote:


Oh, and btw, the Church founded by Jesus is the corrective follow-on to Judaism.


And Mormonism is the corrective follow-on to Catholicism.


David Fritzinger wrote:


If the animals were created that way, then the only explanation is a

trickster god, since he went out of his way to make things look

differently than they actually are.

Which in turn makes Paul of Tarsus a liar, when he said (Romans 1:10) For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.


Dacato wrote:


How is Romney going to defend the fact that his state was 47th in job

creation while he was governor?

47th out of 57, not so bad.


Liberal Here wrote:


Safety is never the first consideration when designing a dangerous

system.

Next time they should put the reactor on a hilltop next to a running stream, like WPPPSS ("Whoops") in Washington. And we shouldn't build cities five feet below sea level while we're at it.


Richard Steel wrote:


Nope...the Supreme Court ruled in 1918 that the Draft is

constitutional.


Slavery was constititional for eighty years too.


Alex W wrote:


The moment they accept Jesus as their saviour, they cease to

be Jews. To be a JEw while believing in Jesus would be the

same as being a Christian without believing in Jesus -- an

impossibility.

On the contrary, Paul of Tarsus accepted Jesus as his savior, yet he continued to assert that he was a Jew. It is written (Acts 21:39) But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew of Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city: and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak unto the people.


2938 Dead wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 11:58:38 -0700, Richard Steel wrote:


I'm not indignant. I just don't gernally take those fellows seriously.


And yet, here you are. Sputtering like Donald Duck.


That's his Barney Frank impression. Oh, wait, that's Daffy Duck.


Sid9 wrote:



FDR attacked the "Nine old men"

Obama is doing the same.


Nine old men. I realize Kagan and Ginsburg give that impression, Sotomayor not so much.


Jason wrote:


My point: If mankind had evolved from an ape-like creature--humans and

chimps would have the same number of chomosomes. That is not the case.

I think Jason is on to something here! He should publish in Nature.

Animal species with 46 chromosomes :

- Humans (Homo sapiens) - Muntjacs (Muntiacus reevesi) - Black rat (Rattus rattus) , but not all of them have 46 - European hare (Lepus europeus) - Merriam’s ground squirrel (Spermophilus canus) - Southern short-tailed shrew (Blarina carolinensis) - Mountain beaver (Aplodontia rufa) - Beach vole (Microtus breweri) - Nilgai (Boselaphus tragocamelus) - Kirk’s dik-dik (Rhynchotragus kirki) - Grey vole (Microtus arvalis) - Large bentwing bat (miniopterus schreibersi) - Bolivian Tuco-tuco (Ctenomys boliviensis) - Grevy’s zebra (Equus grevyi) - Crowned Lemur (Lemur mongoz coronatus) - Red Titi (Callicebus cupreus)



Jeanne Douglas wrote:

In article

<554083af-ef64-412e-b896-e092f798cf0f@d4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,

BroilJAB <DesignDenier@wmconnect.com

wrote:


Vatican reports an explosion in

membership in the RCC, and

a need for more schools built.



Oh, really? Where are these mythical schools being built?


All-boy schools, deep in the heart of the seminary grounds.


SilentOtto@hotmail.com wrote:


In an interview I saw with Hitchens, he said that Pope John Paul had

changed the rules, including getting rid of the Devil's Advocate, and

created a system where beautification could be fast tracked.


That's one way for the "infallible" Church to fuck herself, maybe canonize more mythological saints like Christopher.


BroilJAB wrote:

Today, evolutionists sorrowfully acknowledge

that 'there are fewer claimed transitionals than

177 years ago in Darwin's time'. But the entire

central dogma of Evolutionism was that 'at some

day in the remote future a Missing Link would

be found'.

After they find a Missing Link, it becomes just a Link, and then the Missing Link immediately disappears, poof, and they have to start looking for it all over again.


BeamMeUpScotty wrote:



It was what amounted to a coup inside the United States. The result

was that the President is NOW limited to two terms.


Maybe Obama can pack the court with just two more justices and get a 6-5 majority who will declare any GOP running against Obama is racist and nullify his campaign.


Obama Looks like No Limit Nigga Trayvon Martin: Paternity test ! wrote:



"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net wrote in message

news:jlih4n$o53$1@dont-email.me... >

"Obama Looks like No Limit Nigga Trayvon Martin: Paternity test !" <No

Limit




Bush Still Had Votes to Win in a Recount, Study Finds


Yep, it was 5-4 the first time, and any recount would definitely return the same 5-4 margin.


MarkA wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:27:49 -0700, Dino wrote:


So what is your point?


Perhaps you should look up the meaning of "microscopic" some time.

It just says "See penis, Dino"




duke wrote:


A woman's design function is as a life support system for the unborn. Don't

fight it.

Duke can't help it. The RCC view of human beings is nothing more exalted than their utility for the Church. "What have you done for me lately?"


BroilJAB wrote:

Lincoln's plan: Deport all Blacks back.


Virgil posting as 'LinuxGirl' said,

How do you deport someone who is born

here? Where do they go?


BroilJAB said,

Why waste our time with these transparent

nyms, 'Virgil'. It fools none at all. And what did

Lincoln mean, you pretend to ask? Get Blacks

the HELL outta Dodge --back to Africa.

My ethnic background is Filipina, but I'm a native American: I was born in Vancouver USA. And most blacks are native Americans too.


Fred E Brown wrote:


They are not tax breaks, loopholes or subsidies, they are incentives to

drill and find oil. The incentives are repaid as royalties when oil is

found and sold.


I need an incentive to buy gasoline right now.


Lamont Cranston wrote: On 4/4/2012 3:59 PM, .MattB. wrote:

Holder says 'courts have final say' in response to furor over Obama's

health law comments


What an unremarkable statement.

Remarkable in that he thinks it would be different if he said the courts do NOT have the final say.


Patrick wrote:

 "Andrew W" <remove_ajwerner@optusnet.com.au

wrote:


...........why 1 per year (a possibility) is more significant than

the 250 converts per year to the Catholic Church in my diocese.

250 converts a year?

You live in the US Bible belt (Louisiana). What happens in your area is no

reflection to the rest of the world.


The initials R.C.I.A. stands for the "Rite of Christian Initiation of

Adults." (RCIA)

Roman Catholic Indoctrination and Assimilation. The Village People sang a song about it, goes, "It's fun to stay in the R-C-I-A, R-C-I-A hey hey!"


Phlip wrote: On Apr 4, 10:42 pm, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com....... wrote:


Ron Paul 2003 Speech Predicts Iraq Invasion - Loss Of Freedom &

Privacy After 9/11 - U. of Texas


Me and the DOD neocons I was hanging out with on the morning of 9/11

predicted the same thing, on the morning of 9/11.


It's easy to claim you "predicted" something that happened eleven years ago. Now try predicting something that will happen tomorrow.


• R. L. Measures. wrote:

In article <jgkeegan-788610.18033905042012@news.individual.net>, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com wrote:

greeley is a former priest, you imbecile.


• Greely is still a priest.


A priest who writes smut. At least it's hetero.


MarkA wrote:


Romney For President: He's not such a bad choice!


EDLIN for Word Processor: It's not as bad as you think!


felix_unger wrote: On 05-April-2012 11:20 AM, linuxgal wrote:


duke wrote:


Who said there was no fall? >

Christianity says Man started perfect and became pond scum. Evolution

says we started as pond scum and became Man.


Duke likes to have a finger in both pies..


Well he IS a crusty old fart.


Jason wrote:


Since the Jews are God's chosen people, it's logical to conclude that Jews

will also be raptured. It says above that God will bless the Jewish

people.

So much for the idea of accepting Jesus Christ to be saved.


Jason wrote:


It was actually a Big Fish. It did mention in one scripture in the New

Testament (Matthew 12:40) that it was a whale but that was a tranlation

error. I have a newer translation and the Big Fish in that New Testament

scripture was called a sea monster.

At least with a whale, Jonah might have had some air to breathe, maybe, if he punched a hole through to the whale's lungs. With a fish, Jonah needed to hold his breath for three days and three nights.


Lookout wrote:

On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 20:31:25 -0700 (PDT), Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway criminals <b>etaxxx@earthlink.net wrote:


All decent americans owe Sheriff Joe a debt of gratitude for keeping

this issue alive. Haven't heard much from orly lately.


He's under investigation.


Ya...Alabama..the dumbest SOBs in the nation are really going to make

something of this.


In Birmingham they love the guv'nuh. Boo hoo hoo. Now we all did what we could do. No Watergate does not bother me, does your conscious bother you? Now tell me true.


Alan Ferris wrote:

On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 17:22:04 -0400, Republican Restroom Romeo <wanker@hotmail.com wrote:


On 04/04/2012 06:36 AM, Tracey12 wrote:

Andrew Breitbart, a great American who died under very strange

circumstances did not die of a heat attack. >

Andrew's toxicology report is long over due.

It happens when someone chokes on his own bile.


Or where the cause of death is embarrassing and the family ask that it

not be made public.

Autoerotic asphyxiation with the covers of Ann Coulter books strewn about.


Jason wrote:

In article <to2dnd01tdG-c-HSnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote:

When Satan told Eve that "you shall be as gods...." That was a lie. > >

What was false about it, since the serpent narrowed the godlike property

he was talking about to merely knowing the difference between good and evil?


But she did NOT become as gods.


On the contrary, God himself said of the humans, "Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil..."


Jason wrote:

In article <to2dnd81tdFkc-HSnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote:

God does not program humans. >

On the contrary, it is written (Romans 9:21) Hath not the potter power

over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and

another unto dishonour?


That scripture is about Christians making use of their free will to serve

God and to do everything that God asks them to do--like Joseph and Jesus.


You have a reading comprehension problem, Jason, no wonder you think Jews are raptured. That scripture is about God's ability to create some humans who will be programmed to accept Jesus Christ and be saved, and others who will be programmed to reject him and be burned.



TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:


What did America gain by going to the Moon in the 60's and then

forgetting about it?


Tang!


{:-]))) wrote:



Synchronistically,

if it means something

then it means something.


If we share, this nightmare. We can dream. Spiritus mundi.

If you act, as you think. The missing link. Synchronicity

(The Police)


Stormin Mormon wrote:

One friend of mine said that from Pres. Monson's first talk, on Saturday.

Said that it sounds like things will get a lot worse for the saints, and

soon. Persecution.

Yeah, pretty soon every American will be talking about the President's temple garments and the whole thing will be held up to unprecedented ridicule.



Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:28:23 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Tracey12 wrote: >

Then why is Obama challenging the power of the Supreme Court?

Because he (and everyone else) saw what a train wreck his case really

was when it was presented to the court.


His case?


"His case" was a fucking REPUBLICAN originated Health Care Law.

Yes, I would use that precise word to describe Etch-a-Sketch's bill.


AGWFacts wrote:

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:49:55 +0000 (UTC), "Erik©" <Erik@nobody.com> wrote:


Should Big Environmentalism Be Outlawed So That Benovelent Big Oil Won't Go Broke?


Okay, I give up. What the bloody fuck is "big environmentalism?"


Solyndra, Chevy Dolt, etc...


Obama Looks like No Limit Nigga Trayvon Martin: Paternity test ! wrote:



"Bradley K. Sherman" ks@panix.com wrote in message

news:jlkdqc$p3l$1@panix3.panix.com...

Thank you, Mr. Obama! >


WASHINGTON (AP) -- The number of people fired last week totaled

357,000. Those fired workers said they don't know how they are going to

be able to look for jobs now as gas prices are so fucking high compared

to when Bush was in office and gas was only $ 1.69 on Jan 20 2009.



We are in a very tenuous period in the recovery cycle. Housing has never recovered and the last thing we need is rising oil prices, inflation and an economic recovery derailed by another self-inflicted wound in the ME (ala the Little Satan hitting Iran and starting WW3).


<b>duke wrote:


NOOOOOOOOO way. Mankind started right out of the blocks as a sinner. And we

are still born that way today in original sin.


On the contrary, it is written (Gen 1):

[27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

[31] And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.


Tracey12 wrote: On Apr 5, 10:14 am, Ted Parvo <parvo...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 4, 4:26 pm, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com wrote: >

Remember just a couple of days ago when many democrats /

progressives / communists said that if the Supremes kill off Obamacare

law, it will be good for Obama???

Then why is Obama challenging the power of the Supreme Court?

The leftist totalitarian mindset does not handle "no" very well.


Certainly seems that way. Obama is thin skinned and very easily upset

by his opponents even if they are the USSC justices.

This isn't personal, it's just Commerce.


Stormin Mormon wrote:

We havn't had a good underwear conversation since someone asked Pres.

Clinton if he wore boxers or briefs. Reporter from Rolling Stones, was it?


Tabitha Soren from MTV.


Mulligan wrote: On Apr 5, 1:16 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Stormin Mormon wrote:

One friend of mine said that from Pres. Monson's first talk, on Saturday.

Said that it sounds like things will get a lot worse for the saints, and

soon. Persecution.

Yeah, pretty soon every American will be talking about the President's

temple garments


Where did you get that from?


He was talking about persecution of MORMONS.

Mitt Romney is a Mormon, assuredly?


duke wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 14:20:47 -0400, ThomMadura <Tommadura@optonline.net wrote:


THe bible's are just so badly written that they do not even deserve

mention - compared to AESOPS


Yes, like the tooth fairy. Did you wear your tutu when you did that trick?


Don't be turning any around here.


Jason wrote:


Did God cause that serial killer to kill those people? yes or no


Negligent homicide. He saw it coming, and let it come.



Jason wrote: >

That means nothing. Did Obama mention evolution in any of his books? Is he

an advocate of macro-evolution or evolution?



Certainly his position on marriage equality has evolved.


duke wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 12:06:51 +1000, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au wrote:


God has been updated many times since then.


Actually, he hasn't. God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. That's the

beauty of God.

So what's the point of praying to God, if he doesn't change his mind?

"So the Lord changed His mind about the harm which He said He would do to His people." Exodus 32:14 NASB


Jason wrote:

In article <7vOdnTZSCptJLuDSnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote:

It was actually a Big Fish. It did mention in one scripture in the New

Testament (Matthew 12:40) that it was a whale but that was a tranlation

error. I have a newer translation and the Big Fish in that New Testament

scripture was called a sea monster.

At least with a whale, Jonah might have had some air to breathe, maybe,

if he punched a hole through to the whale's lungs. With a fish, Jonah

needed to hold his breath for three days and three nights.


It was a special fish--perhaps created by God for that purpose so perhaps

it did have a air hole. I don't know.


Ben Kenobi's tagline is "Use the force." Schwarzeneggar's tagline is "I'll be back." Jason's tagline is "I don't know."


Mulligan wrote: On Apr 5, 2:22 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Mulligan wrote: On Apr 5, 1:16 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Stormin Mormon wrote: > One friend of mine said that from Pres. Monson's first talk, on Saturday. > Said that it sounds like things will get a lot worse for the saints, and > soon. Persecution.

Yeah, pretty soon every American will be talking about the President's

temple garments

Where did you get that from?

He was talking about persecution of MORMONS.

Mitt Romney is a Mormon, assuredly?


Mitt is president?

Not yet, hence my use of the words "pretty" and "soon".


Jason wrote:

In article <7vOdnTNSCpsaKuDSnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote:

In article <to2dnd01tdG-c-HSnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > Jason wrote: > When Satan told Eve that "you shall be as gods...." That was a lie. >> >>

What was false about it, since the serpent narrowed the godlike property

he was talking about to merely knowing the difference between good

and evil?

But she did NOT become as gods. >

On the contrary, God himself said of the humans, "Behold, the man is

become as one of us, to know good and evil..."


Only in regard to knowing good from evil. She did not have the power to

see into the future or to heal anyone.


And that is precisely what I meant when I said (see above) "the serpent narrowed the godlike property he was talking about to merely knowing the difference between good and evil". I'm not accustomed to repeating myself to be understood, but then, I'm not a third grade teacher.


Jason wrote:


No--that is not true. Mormons may believe that humans are god-like--but

not most Christians. I am not god-like.


On the contrary, it is written (Genesis 1:27) God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Image means likeness. So we are in the likeness of God, or if you will, God-like.


HVAC wrote: On 4/5/2012 9:12 AM, vtcapo wrote: > >

So what? Many witnesses have seen ghosts and angels as well. >

OH! Sorry, you believe in all that bullshit too. >

Keep the blinders on. Your paradigm is safe.... for now.



When you present a ghost or angel to be examined, I will

be perfectly open to it's existence. Until then, it's just

another kooky story from a kooky individual.


Even Jesus had trouble doing miracles in his hometown when he was surrounded by skeptics (Mark 6:4-5).



Jeanne Douglas wrote:

On Apr 5, 10:05 am, Ray Fischer Buggers Little Boys <RayFischerFuksLittleB...@yahoo.com wrote:

Attn Obozo:


Who is Obozo?


Obummer.


Jason wrote:



They are Jews as a result of having Abraham as an ancestor.



Arab Christians and Muslims have Abraham as an ancestor, yet they are not Jews.


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 12:48:23 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Jeanne Douglas wrote:

On Apr 5, 10:05 am, Ray Fischer Buggers Little Boys <RayFischerFuksLittleB...@yahoo.com wrote:

Attn Obozo:

Who is Obozo? >

Obummer.


Who is Obummer?

Obongo.


Mulligan wrote: On Apr 5, 3:33 pm, Mulligan <yost_...@hotmail.com wrote: On Apr 5, 3:27 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: > > > > > Mulligan wrote: On Apr 5, 2:22 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Mulligan wrote: On Apr 5, 1:16 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Stormin Mormon wrote: > One friend of mine said that from Pres. Monson's first talk, on Saturday. > Said that it sounds like things will get a lot worse for the saints, and > soon. Persecution. > Yeah, pretty soon every American will be talking about the President's > temple garments > Where did you get that from? > He was talking about persecution of MORMONS. > Mitt Romney is a Mormon, assuredly?

Mitt is president?

Not yet, hence my use of the words "pretty" and "soon".

So you are talking about something that has not happened yet and may

not

happen at all and yet you call that a well crafted argument on usenet
as if you are some kind of prognosticator.


If Monson can do I, so can I.


US4ZION wrote:

Irrelevant. Pharoah found out that his magicians (top scientists of

the day) simply could not stand up against the God of Israel.


Oh, they gave him a good run for his money.

The first plague was a heavy spill of petroleum, which covered the surface of the Nile river with a brown syrupy layer, and many of the people said the god of Moshe had turned the river into blood, and it was bitter, and they were forced to dig new wells near to the river to drink. But Pharaoh's magicians were able to mix oil with water and produce the same brown mess in the court of Pharaoh, so Pharaoh did not give in to Moshe' request for religious leave for the Immigrants.

The second plague was a great swarm of frogs that covered every square foot of Egypt. Pharaoh's magicians were also able to bring forth frogs, but they could not remove the frogs, so this time Pharaoh said he would grant the religious leave if Moshe made the frogs go away. Moshe made the frogs go away, but Pharaoh went back on his word and did not grant the religious leave for the Immigrants.

The third plague was lice, and Pharaoh's magicians could not duplicate this plague, but Pharaoh did not let the Immigrants go on religious leave to worship El, and he waited out the plague, which only lasted a few days anyway.

Lather, rinse, repeat...


Patrick wrote:

"W.T.S." <m14m@earthlink.net wrote

Third World Country.

Of course he might lie.

I doubt Ireland is a "third world country". Besides, it _was_ one of

the most Catholic countries on Earth.


So was the Philippines at one time.



The Vatican still has no clue what is happening.


Jason wrote:

In article <3IudnVCxhpsPZ-DSnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote: >

They are Jews as a result of having Abraham as an ancestor. > >

Arab Christians and Muslims have Abraham as an ancestor, yet they are

not Jews.


OK--good point--I should have said Abraham and Sarah as ancestors.


That disqualifies Muslims.


I get it. You start from the premise that Muslims are disqualified, and then choose the mother that will pass the Jews while filtering out the Arabs. Well, you aren't done yet. Isaac, son of Sarah, had two boys, Jacob and Esau. Jacob became father of the Israelites, and Esau became father of the Edomites, who lived in Jordan and today are...Muslims. So let me fix your post. You should have said "They are Jews as a result of having Abraham and Sarah and Jacob and Leah and Rachel as ancestors." I could also mention that Jews themselves are a subdivision of the Israelites but I believe that would cover it.


Free Lunch wrote:

On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 17:53:29 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com>

wrote in alt.talk.creationism:


Free Lunch wrote:

But Republicans prefer the famously anti-religious Ayn Rand, so we can

ignore them when they claim to be Christian.

Lots of horrible things have been done to others in the name of a

religion, in the name of freedom, democracy, communism, socialism,

conservatism, liberalism, etc. Each are someone's religion, someone's

"church." Ayn Rand had Objectivism and she ran it like any other cult.


Yes. I just find it quite annoying when the cult followers allege that

they are followers of Jesus when they manifestly have rejected the

teachings ascribed to Him in the gospels.

The most glaring example being Luke 14:33

"So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple."


Mitchell Holman wrote:

Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in

news:Jason-0504121239250001@67-150-126-160.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:


In article <XnsA02C5106AB54Dnomailcomcastnet@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net wrote: > >

   Costa Rica has the very health care system Rush is

complaining about...........

He probably did not know that information. He will probably not keep

his promise.


  So Rush is either stupid or a liar.

At a minimum, he's un-American. Costa Rica? Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya, Rush.


ThomMadura wrote: On 4/5/2012 11:56 PM, Jahbulon wrote:

"Stormin Mormon"<cayoung61***spamblock@hotmail.com

wrote in 

news:J0sfr.2

$ew5.1@news.usenetserver.com: >

plonk > >

Well praise the lord. >



Unfortunately - Jack Lord - is also a made up name - a stage name

Just as the Character Steve McGarrett he played in Hawaii Five O was.

Book 'im Danno.


Jahbulon wrote:

ThomMadura <Tommadura@optonline.net wrote in

news:4f7e8b12$0$25165$607ed4bc@cv.net:


Well praise the lord.

Unfortunately - Jack Lord - is also a made up

name - a stage name Just as the Character Steve

McGarrett he played in Hawaii Five O was.


Lord is not an uncommon family name here in England.


Nephi was not an uncommon name in Bountiful. One time Jesus paid a visit there and said, "Nephi come forth!" which would be like standing in a crowd of a million Americans and saying "John Smith come forth!" But the correct Nephi came forward, kissed Jesus' feet, and Jesus gave him the power to baptize.


On Apr 5, 4:30 pm, mind <b>eing@.... --- -- . wrote:


It might be possible to get rid of something wrong

by chopping off a piece that isn't right. What's left

will still not be all right. There will always be wrong

as long as right exists in one's mind.


Arrakis teaches the attitude of the knife - chopping off what's incomplete and saying: 'Now, it's complete because it's ended here.'


BroilJAB wrote:

A hundred new posts from Calvin Sereno Ramsey

and not ONE mention of Jesus.

What's the point? If you're in the elect, Jesus is redundant, and if you're not in the elect, Jesus can't help you.


BroilJAB wrote:

No atheist now alive need choose Hell, but all

of them will do. Each man can come to Jesus.

But the atheist makes the personal willful choice

to spend eternity in the fiery cauldron of Hell.

At least it's a DRY heat.


duke wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 05:19:02 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

But a Catholic obeys dogma, which is truth revealed by God. At least a muslim

or a hindu or an agnostic or a non-religious are not atheists looking forward to

the flames.

What happens if you die and you find out Jesus is half-black, because

Miriam was an Ethiopian Jew? You gonna call him Buckwheat?


Oh, noooooooooo. But, to make it easy, I might call him Denzel Washington or

Louis Gossett.

One time Moshe wanted to marry an Ethiopian, but she wasn't white enough for Moshe's sister. God said, "I show you white" and gave her leprosy for a week.


C. A. Rotwang wrote: >

Not my deal man. I'll just sit home and watch The Masters golf

tournament from Agusta Georgia. >

Too much testosterone there, needs a woman's touch.


duke wrote:


And why would I, a Roman Catholic, not be a Christian when everything we are and

represent and stand for is found in the bible?


Except for the deal about genuflecting to statues of saints.

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God!" -- The LORD


duke wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 09:10:24 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote:


On 4/5/2012 9:05 AM, duke wrote:

But you're OK if it goes on. No problem for you, eh?

Can you possibly be this stupid?? Suffering, like breathing, happens.


Because of policies that YOU support. Can't you see that?


Actually, as a Roman Catholic, I'm elated that the RCC is the most active group

in helping the needy worldwide.

I don't know any boys that need to be diddled by a priest.


SkyEyes wrote:

>

When I worked second shift Technical Publications at Northrop Anaheim,

the young lady I worked with was dating Buckwheat's son. So my ex and

I went on a couple of double dates with them. Got so I couldn't speak

proper English, since all the son and his girlfriend spoke was

Buckwheat-speak.

And that ended up in your pubs, the DOD couldn't make heads or tails of them, and all the missile contracts went to Raytheon. Nice going!


Patrick wrote:

"linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in message

news:gLKdnbjPG4MR2-PSnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com... Patrick wrote:

"W.T.S." <m14m@earthlink.net wrote > Third World Country. > Of course he might lie.

I doubt Ireland is a "third world country". Besides, it _was_ one of

the most Catholic countries on Earth.

So was the Philippines at one time.


The Vatican still has no clue what is happening.


Don't try to speak for the Vatican.

You don't have the intelligence to do so.


I admit they are smart enough to realize they need to change the subject from priestly abuse.

CNN April 10, 2012:

The Vatican may have forgiven the Beatles over the weekend for their "satanic" messages -- but Ringo Starr, the legendary band's drummer, says he couldn't care less.

In a tribute published to mark the 40th anniversary of the breakup of the band, who singer John Lennon once claimed were "more popular than Jesus," the Vatican newspaper "L'Osservatore Romano" said it had forgiven them and called them a "precious jewel."

But Starr told CNN: "Didn't the Vatican say we were satanic or possibly satanic -- and they've still forgiven us? I think the Vatican, they've got more to talk about than the Beatles."



duke wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 06:10:15 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:


In article <9fvon79pgujagera4a53j0t2msbs47mt81@4ax.com>, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote: >

I quote only Paul. >

• Paul is an alias for the same dude.


Saul didn't speak the language.


On the contrary, it is written (Acts 26:14) And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.


Barry OGrady wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:46:37 -0700, J <jdyoung1@ymail.com wrote:


His Holiness will not rest until the clergy once again places itself

beyond approach from sexual temptations. It's time for the RCC to set

itself as the moral standard bearer it historically was, and Pope

Benedict XVI is the man to lead them there.


The church should ensure that priests are never in a position of

trust.


You know, they don't have this problem in the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Anglican Communion, where priests are allowed to be "the husband of one wife" as prescribed by St. Paul.


John Manning wrote: On 4/6/2012 12:06 AM, chibiabos wrote:

In article<Er-dnRCZEIVBb-DSnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@giganews.com>, John Manning<jrobertm@terra.com.br

wrote:

>

President Obama flashed the Vulcan salute with Lt. Uhura,

or at least the actress who played her, Nichelle Nichols. >

Nichols posted a photo of her and Obama doing the iconic hand

gesture from "Star Trek" in the Oval Office from a recent visit. >

SEE Photo: http://twitpic.com/95b6ki >

What a great picture. I had such a crush on Nichelle when I was

sixteen.



Sheesh! Me too! >

I have her autobiography, "Beyond Uhura"... great stuff.


hypatiab7 wrote: On Thursday, April 5, 2012 6:09:13 PM UTC-4, Jeanne Douglas wrote: On Apr 5, 12:30 pm, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br wrote:

President Obama flashed the Vulcan salute with Lt. Uhura,

or at least the actress who played her, Nichelle Nichols. >

Nichols posted a photo of her and Obama doing the iconic hand

gesture from "Star Trek" in the Oval Office from a recent visit. >

SEE Photo:http://twitpic.com/95b6ki

Beautiful. >

Sadly, I'm sure Fox will find a way to make this a bad thing. >

JD


As someone on that page said, the birthers will say he was

born on Vulcan.

The evidence is incontrovertable:

http://tobyspinks.com/images/Seperated_Obama_Tuvok.jpg


TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:


Obama wins the game so far. Not because his plan is that good, just

because you don't have a Plan B for Universal Healthcare.


George W. Bush had a Plan D, but Democrats opposed it on the grounds that it was Dubya's idea.


pyjamarama wrote:

Well, it's not like he publically called into question the legitimacy

of the Judicial branch or "secretly" tried to weaken our national

defense....


Oh, wait....shit....

That's what I call Dead On Arrival.


.MattB. wrote:


  I just thought it strange that kids saw it coming and the

government claims it didn't. I will always wonder if we could have

softened the fall if we had acted sooner.

Obviously there would be fewer mortgages underwater if the brakes were applied in 2005 rather than 2007 when $700,000 McMansions were going to $14,000 a year migrant lettuce-pickers.


Clave wrote: >

The answer to "Am I my brother's keeper" is supposed to be YES.

That's what the lazy brothers always say.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Apr-05 19:18, felix_unger wrote:

On 06-April-2012 5:03 AM, Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Apr-05 11:20, duke wrote:

On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:56:04 -0700, linuxgal<linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: felix_unger wrote: On 05-April-2012 11:20 AM, linuxgal wrote: duke wrote: >> > Who said there was no fall? >> > Christianity says Man started perfect and became pond scum. > Evolution > says we started as pond scum and became Man. >> > Duke likes to have a finger in both pies.. > > Well he IS a crusty old fart. >

You don't know the half of it. >

Are you going to describe the other half? >

maybe he's only half a crusty old fart?


Oh, I think I get it ... is he a gingerbread man?

I think so. Lord knows I like to bite his head off.


duke wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 05:26:39 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

Oh, and btw, the Church founded by Jesus is the corrective follow-on to Judaism. >

And Mormonism is the corrective follow-on to Catholicism.


They are not even Christians.

Which makes logical sense when Jews says Christians are not even Jews.


HVAC wrote: On 4/6/2012 7:51 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote: > >

You can be a lousy speller and still be clever. I'm not in a Google

group on spelling or grammar. All the years you waste picking on my

bad spelling did you no good. Think about it. Oooops I 'm sorry you

need a brain to think. TreBert >

Space can bend concave,or convex Space can shrink,and expand. Gravity

is the force needed. TreBert



No one has ever shrunk space or observed space shrinking.


Space shrinks in the vicinity of the sun. Makes the perihelion of Mercury rotate a little bit every lap, as though a short segment was snipped out of the circle. Einstein's general relativity was confirmed by this observation, and it is also seen in the case of two pulsars that orbit around a common barycenter.


Alex W wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:42:32 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


Jason wrote:

In article <3IudnVCxhpsPZ-DSnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > Jason wrote: > > They are Jews as a result of having Abraham as an ancestor. >> >>

Arab Christians and Muslims have Abraham as an ancestor, yet they are

not Jews.

OK--good point--I should have said Abraham and Sarah as ancestors. >

That disqualifies Muslims. >

I get it. You start from the premise that Muslims are disqualified,

and then choose the mother that will pass the Jews while filtering out

the Arabs. Well, you aren't done yet. Isaac, son of Sarah, had two

boys, Jacob and Esau. Jacob became father of the Israelites, and Esau

became father of the Edomites, who lived in Jordan and today

are...Muslims. So let me fix your post. You should have said "They

are Jews as a result of having Abraham and Sarah and Jacob and Leah and

Rachel as ancestors." I could also mention that Jews themselves are a

subdivision of the Israelites but I believe that would cover it.


How does this establish descent? Isaac and his sons should

be irrelevant, should they not? After all, as far as I am

aware Jewish descent is strictly matrilineal.

Old school Judaism, it was all about the fathers. That's why you don't see a genealogy from Jesus to David via Mary, St. Anne, etc. Some time in the middle ages the rabbis switched to using mothers, because of a very simple and obvious principle. A woman can never say, "I have no children, well, heh, none that I KNOW OF!!!"



Devils Advocaat wrote: On Apr 6, 7:21 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:


[snipped for brevity]


Still you fail to answer those three recent questions.

But never mind.

Try this one on for size.

When was the first bible of the Christian faith compiled?

I'll take a guess that is was probably the first or second century.


Wrong.

390 CE.


HVAC wrote: On 4/5/2012 6:33 PM, Warhol wrote: > >

At his home Monday, Mr. Watts said he has never allowed weapons inside

and that when his four children were growing up, they were not allowed

to play "cops and robbers, to kill the Indians." >

During the Vietnam War, Mr. Watts, who served in the military from 1950

to 1961, refused to let his boys play GI Joes.



The US didn't deploy combat troops to Vietnam until 1965.

But Ike sent military advisors there, and they had force protection.



Jason wrote:


I have evidence to support my point of view. For example, Obama has not

allowed the drilling for oil at the Artic National Wildlife Refuge and off

the Mid-Atlantic coast (as Virginia, for example, wants to do).


They don't know da Chicago way. You gotta let da boss wet his beak a little, capiche?



Don Martin wrote: linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: Jason wrote: >

No--that is not true. Mormons may believe that humans are god-like--but

not most Christians. I am not god-like. >

On the contrary, it is written (Genesis 1:27) God created man in his own

image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. >

Image means likeness. So we are in the likeness of God, or if you will, God-like.


It would appear that Jason's god is a primate of some sort.


I wonder what fruit trees his god climbed down from in distant antiquity.


MelissA wrote:

I worship bees!


A lot of the guys here would agree:


MelissA wrote:

I worship bees!


A lot of the guys here would agree:

http://www.halloweenplayground.com/images/roma/busy-bee-costume.jpg


Uncle Vic wrote:


Then he can't make a rock so heavy he can't lift it. That means he is

not all powerful. But don't worry. If he makes something he *can't*

lift, he's also not all powerful, not perfect.


God can make a rock that's too heavy for him to lift, but the Earth keeps getting pushed away by his feet and he wasn't solved that issue yet.


duke wrote:

>

God help America if he gets reelected.

I thought God picked him.

Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.


Phlip wrote: On Apr 6, 6:42 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: .MattB. wrote:

  I just thought it strange that kids saw it coming and the

government claims it didn't. I will always wonder if we could have

softened the fall if we had acted sooner.

Obviously there would be fewer mortgages underwater if the brakes were

applied in 2005 rather than 2007 when $700,000 McMansions were going to

$14,000 a year migrant lettuce-pickers.


I wouldn't be setting your white-guilt heart all aflutter to remind

you minorities have been paying back their mortgages more often than

whites, would I?

White guilt. Heh. I'm Filipina-American.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 05:55:39 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:


Actually, your ignorance is showing if you can't provide what law

there is that requires something must be "IN" the Constitution to be

considered constitutional or not. Cite it or properly ejakayte

yerself, Billy-Bob.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution



There is absolutely NO wording that says something must literally be

"in" the US Constitution to be legal.



Sure there is. Amendment 10:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


duke wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:36:48 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Patrick wrote:

 "Andrew W" <remove_ajwerner@optusnet.com.au

wrote: > > ...........why 1 per year (a possibility) is more significant than > the 250 converts per year to the Catholic Church in my diocese. > 250 converts a year? > You live in the US Bible belt (Louisiana). What happens in your area is no > reflection to the rest of the world.

The initials R.C.I.A. stands for the "Rite of Christian Initiation of

Adults." (RCIA)

Roman Catholic Indoctrination and Assimilation. The Village People sang

a song about it, goes, "It's fun to stay in the R-C-I-A, R-C-I-A hey hey!"


My favorable impression of this one is really sinking badly now. She started

good and fast, and now old and slow.


Right back atcha.


duke wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:25:18 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us wrote:


>

Get back to us when you get evidence.


Given it to you-all many times. My starting point is always creation of the

universe - something from nothing into nothingness. God did it.


We see evidence of virtual particle pairs created from the void all the time. Maybe the universe is one big giant vacuum fluctuation.


duke wrote: >

Seriously though, if you wish to discuss how much electrons weigh, I

recommend that you start a new topic thread (it could be interesting).


How many electrons can you see in a minute?


3.7749 * 10^20 per amp.


Eddie Haskell wrote:

"lsrlts" <dddrr@gnail.invalid wrote in message

news:jllfge$3hm$2@dont-email.me... On 4/5/2012 5:57 PM, Matt wrote:

A passport is not a right, you do not have the "right" to travel. You

do not

have the "right" to drive.

We have rights to pursue happiness and have liberty. >

Travel and driving qualify under both definitions.


Driving requires a license just like marriage so neither are rights by

definition.


You can drive all day on your own land without a license. Come out here to the commons, it's in the public interest that you know the rules.


wy wrote: On Apr 6, 9:37 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote: > > >

Obama wins the game so far. Not because his plan is that good, just

because you don't have a Plan B for Universal Healthcare.

George W. Bush had a Plan D, but Democrats opposed it on the grounds

that it was Dubya's idea.


I think it was because it would be unfunded, meaning adding hundreds

of billions more to the debt. Thanks, George.

Yeah, we all know what fiscal conservatives the Democrats are.


Sid9 wrote:



Plan D was Republican giveaway to insurance companies and the

pharmaceutical industry...with crumbs to Medicare recipients.

Inadequately funded it has become a drain on our Treasury.

As opposed to the big moneymaker ObamaCare is. Why, there's committees lining up right now now decided what to do with the windfall.


RD Sandman wrote:

>

Where in hell did this twit get the idea that Martin's girlfriend had a

recorded call? All that was recorded was the time and duration of the

cal, not what occurred on it. >

What does any of this Zimmerman shit have to do with atheism?



BroilJAB wrote:


You put your finger on the Anti-Jesus

teaching of Calvin Ramsey. He actually

teaches Jesus can NOT save you.

Well, that's probably the only thing he's getting right.


Alan Ferris wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:49:20 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:


Actually, as a Roman Catholic, I'm elated that the RCC is the most active group

in helping the needy worldwide.


Liar, the UN does far more than Catholics do. Also they do not lie to

people.

UN: A place where dictators opposed to free speech (Castro, Putin, Ahmedinejad, Mugabe, Obama, Chavez, Kim Jong Un) demand to be heard.



ThomMadura wrote: On 4/6/2012 11:54 AM, linuxgal wrote: duke wrote: >

"So the Lord changed His mind about the harm which He said He would

do to His people." Exodus 32:14 NASB >

Or so some writer put it. He didn't know that God surpasses all time. > >

If we can't trust the Bible to teach truth why the hell do you keep

falling back on it?


IF you actually read the bible - it must eventually get to say the truth

- after all - it actually takes ALL SIDES of the issues.

Correct. Turn with me, ladies and gentlemen of the congregation, to the Book of Proverbs, chapter twenty-six, verses four and five. Please follow along.

[4] Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

[5] Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.


.MattB. wrote:



 Which side would want Detroit?  

They could look south, to Canada, eh?


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Apr-06 09:07, Samuel Harrigon wrote:


Don't drink it >

Rev. Samuel Harrigon

Good Old Gospel Ship Church


How did breastfeeding get classified as Satanic?


Luke 11:27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.


kensmithiscool wrote:


Maureen, you really shouldn't respond to your 1 month-old sockpuppet.

It's bad form.

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


MarkA wrote:



Now THAT's rich, duke! NOWHERE in the Bible does it command you to avoid

eating meat on Fridays, however, it DOES tell you never to eat shrimp! I

guess the Word-O-God is more like "suggestions"?


Me, I gave up Lent for Lent.


Obama is a climate change Hoaxer wrote:

"The world's greatest snow-capped peaks, which run in a chain from the

Himalayas to Tian Shan on the border of China and Kyrgyzstan, have

lost no ice over the last decade, new research shows.


Al Gore call your office.


2938 Dead wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 14:35:46 -0700, wy wrote:


On Apr 6, 5:13 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: .MattB. wrote: >

 Which side would want Detroit?

They could look south, to Canada, eh?

Yep, you're geographically challenged alright. Hey, about looking north

to Peru?


You should know better. Travel due south from Detroit, the first thing

you hit is Windsor, in the Province of Ontario.


Then again, 80% of kids these days think Kansas is in Central America.


duke wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 06:33:06 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Barry OGrady wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:46:37 -0700, J <jdyoung1@ymail.com wrote: >

His Holiness will not rest until the clergy once again places itself

beyond approach from sexual temptations. It's time for the RCC to set

itself as the moral standard bearer it historically was, and Pope

Benedict XVI is the man to lead them there.

The church should ensure that priests are never in a position of

trust. >

You know, they don't have this problem in the Eastern Orthodox Church

and the Anglican Communion, where priests are allowed to be "the husband

of one wife" as prescribed by St. Paul.


That means no more than one.

Sorry Mormons.


THE BORG wrote:


God stripped them of their male genitals and male strength, and gave

them a ridiculous body and ridiculous appearance and ridiculous voice.

All in all, I prefer ridiculous.


Calvin Ramsey wrote: On 4/6/2012 3:49 PM, linuxgal wrote: BroilJAB wrote: >

You put your finger on the Anti-Jesus

teaching of Calvin Ramsey. He actually

teaches Jesus can NOT save you. >

Well, that's probably the only thing he's getting right.


Now you're both lying.


No, it's true. For the same reason Helen Keller can't drive a car.


Smiler wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:03:07 -0700, chibiabos wrote:


In article

6e436c0-50ce-4284-a8d2-72209ca971cb@2g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, <b> US4ZION <us4zion@gmail.com wrote: >

Godless science

Science works because it is godless. Unless of course your computer is

powered by pixies. >


CPU = Central Pixie Unit

PSU = Pixie Supply Unit

North and South bridges for the Trolls to hide under.

DIMMs = 'Dwarf Inside' Memory Modules


Don't get me started on Daemons.

20120414.TXT

Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:

Yes. Dogs do too. Pantera always puts his head down and whimpers when I'm sad.

He's going, "Master is focused on his own problems, and that means he's forgotten to set out my food again. What a bummer."


Smiler wrote:

I would remind him that he (presumably) has no qualms about a socialized police force, a socialized fire service, a socialized justice system, a socialized road network, socialized armed forces and anything else his taxes pay for.

And unless he's got deep pockets, a socialized K-12 education system.


Andrew W wrote:

Hell is just a state of being.

I'm thinking Utah.


BroilJAB wrote:

Latest Pew Poll shows Obama losing in a landslide to Mitt Romney, who even this week has won Obama's 'home state' of Illinois.

Party primaries don't mean shit. Pat Robertson carried Washington State in 1988. Washington State.


Andrew W wrote:

Rockets don't push against anything. That's not how they work. They use the kick-back principle, like the kick-back from a shotgun. Educate yourself.

If you sit on an ice sled with a pile of bricks and throw the bricks fast enough, you can start moving at quite a clip. It's simply the law of the conservation of linear momentum.


Andrew wrote:

"Budikka666" wrote in message news:345ecede-084b-4570-a5b6-71ad6ec62af6@db5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...



Can you explain the -origin- of the specified information in code

format that is in DNA, apart from a Super Intelligent causation??

Copy errors code for altered proteins. If the mangled protein helps the individual have more offspring, those copy errors are retained. If not, they are discarded, baby with the bathwater. DNA sequences represent millions of years of botched copy jobs that were serendipitously beneficial.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:

You can look all day, but you

won't find God in a mosque and you won't find Jesus Christ in a Cathedral.

Try looking in prison. Everyone seems to find Jesus there.


Nancy Rudins wrote:


I still have my dual boot because I like to play Flight Simulator.

Other than that, I don't have any other use for Windoze.

I'm coming to you folks old school, from Windows 98 SE. That's harder than you think, because this computer never ran Win98 and so HP never created a network driver that will work for that OS. Why do this? Because I can back up the whole installation in about a minute, once a day, and tuck the backups into a tiny corner of an external drive.


Warhol wrote: On Mar 25, 4:27 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: >

If you sit on an ice sled with a pile of bricks and throw the bricks

fast enough, you can start moving at quite a clip. It's simply the law

of the conservation of linear momentum.


you will start moving because of the medium, in this case water

waves... but there above there is no medium and only vacuum... I defy

anyone here to prove this little fact wrong... in vacuum there is

nothing to push against...

No, water waves have nothing to do with it. I said an ice sled.


Jahbulon wrote:

linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in

news:ytydnf8m3da6qPLSnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@giganews.com:


Where does one find this tithing commanded in the Book of Mormon,


3 Nephi 24:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse,

that there may be meat in my house; and prove me now herewith,

saith the Lord of Hosts, if I will not open you the windows

of heaven, and pour you out a blessing that there shall not

be room enough to receive it.


That says 10% pre-tax?

That's what "all the tithes" means

If you tithe on net rather than gross, then God isn't getting his full cut kicked upstairs. The next step after that is he sends Furio to kneecap ya.


Nick Youngh wrote:


Mormon doomprophet Lehi was in my opinion Biblical doomprophet

Jeremiah

Naw, Jeremiah was told by God to buy some property in Jerusalem to fall back on after the first sack by Nebbie. Lehi was told by God to get the hell out and never come back.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:51:18 -0700 (PDT), Dino <whatever@homemail.com> wrote:


On Mar 24, 11:06 am, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote: >

Obama "wants" nothing of the sort.

http://www.dividedstates.com/obama-wants-high-gas-prices/


BWWHAHAHAHAAH


Oh, it must be true. You read it on the innernets.


Ray Fischer wrote: >

Rightard rule #1: lie, lie again, lie more, lie about lying.


Those who cannot remember history are doomed to vote for Democrats.


I suppose everyone knows, now, why Congress called it a health care "bill".


Obama has a new plan to make sure crime never pays: he's going to nationalize it!


Dino wrote: On Mar 25, 9:20 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: JTEM wrote:

You're a hypocrite. Obama sucks ass, absolutely,

but he sucks ass because he's continuing Bush's

policies, the exact same policies that "Conservatives"

like you cheered for 8 years.

True, Obama is eliminating the home mortgage tax deduction, but it

shouldn't impact the average American living in the new communes.


Just like a Liberal, thinks he or she can speak for the average

American.


Learn the difference between Liberalism and Liberatarianism.

Liberalism: Protect animals, trees, government programs, terrorists, dictators and murderers while killing babies, seniors, and jobs.



Dino wrote:

In fact, it's in SPITE of Obama's policies, that the production went

up.

Thanks in most part to private and state drilling.

Obama had ZERO to do with any increase.


Obama gets no credit from Pubs when production goes up. Bush gets no credit from Donks when prices go down.

I think it's all just Partisan Politics.


Warhol wrote:


"RADIO-WAVES cannot travel through the empty medium of Space -- All

audio and video from Apollo-11, ISS, The Shuttle, are FAKE FAKE FAKE"


So now we have an aether believer.


Alex W. wrote:


Given the nature of

the human -- and particularly the male -- mind, this is really a

catch-all precept guaranteed to result in guilt and expiation in

everybody bar the dead.

Which makes God a petulant child who blames his own creation for their shortcomings.



Al-Maghili wrote:

>

"Allah revealed Islam in order that humanity could be governed according to

it. Unbelief is darkness and disorder. So the unbelievers, if they are not

suppressed, create disorder.

As opposed to the order of a suicide bomber who blows up a marketplace.

 If Islam is the religion of peace, I'd hate to meet the religion of war.


Greegor wrote: >

Kent and Maureen may as well be joined at the hip.

Several have called Maureen Kent's excrement eater.


I don't remember this Greegor from the old days, but I hope he doesn't have some sort of ministry.

EPH 5:12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.


KabukiBob wrote: >

Seeing as his radio show has been off the air for more than a decade,

idiot....

In Seattle, Bob's former outlet 1050 KBLE-AM got bought up by Mother Angelika's EWTN network and became all Popery all the time.



MarkA wrote:


Don thinks that without government, everyone would just naturally live

together in peace and harmony. The fact that that has never actually

happened, in all of human history, does not seem to impress him much.


Master Lao Tzu said, "Governing a large country is like frying a small fish. You spoil it with too much poking."


duke wrote:

>

There is no bigger loser than America for putting a Kenyan muslim into office.


I don't know what you're talking about Duke. Right now we have a Hawaiian Christian in office.


Tony Dragon wrote:


I seem to recall that Francis has posted that he/she is not a Freemason.

I seem to recall that Tricky Dicky said that he was not a crook.


Nick Youngh wrote:


People who believe that the BoM was situated in the new world should

not have other explanations on 1 Nephi than the people who believe in

an old world location.

And yet the story ended with the plates being buried on Hill Cumorah in New York State, a decidedly New Worldish location.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:



Deregulation of Wall street, investment banking, commodities trading,

foriegn policy that insults oil producing nations, foriegn policy that

threatens other oil consuming nations


All of the above were policy screw-ups by Bush and the Republican

congress.

Average price in the US is north of $3.90 per gallon, so what's Obama's policy screw-up? Three years in, blaming Bush doesn't fly.


BroilJAB wrote:

LUV that RUSHHHHH

My favorite Rush platter is Grace Under Pressure.


BroilJAB wrote:

Never tolerate an atheist near you

or near children.

Great idea! Let them serve as altar boys so they'll be safe.


BroilJAB wrote:

The Seal Team Child Murderer has apparently been

flown safely out of Afghan and already declared insane,

and so never to face justice. The hearts of the Moslem

people bleed each time Obama orders more killings,

more Koran burnings.

A man in an Afghan army uniform has shot and killed two soldiers at a Nato base in southern Afghanistan, Nato officials have said. We're still waiting for Karzai's apology.


John Locke wrote:

On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:49:12 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno <atjoebruno0@gmail.com wrote:


I think they are confusing and incomplete.

They don't offer all the options the old system did. >

Get a newsreader and a usenet account ! Xnews is free or there's

Agent version 6 which costs a few bucks but is, in my opinion, a

better reader.

Mozilla Seamonkey for text (all platforms), Pan for binaries (under Linux) or Grabit for XP. Xnews is the only think I can get working under Win98 for binaries.


Eugene Griessel wrote:

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:17:55 -0700 (PDT), Warhol <molarh@hotmail.com> wrote:


To report Warhol to the Belgian Police please use:

https://www.ecops.be/webforms/Default.aspx?Lang=EN


Holocaust denial and anti-semitism is a crime in Belgium,


Eugene L Griessel


  To err is human, to moo bovine.

To oink porcine.


John Baker wrote:

On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:56:26 -0700 (PDT), Ray Fischer Buggers Little Boys <RayFischerFuksLittleBoys@yahoo.com wrote:



And in August of 2008, when Dubya was in charge, the national average

price of gas was $4.11 per gallon, with peaks of $4.73 per gallon in

some west coast markets.


I remember that. Bush gave everyone $600 in free money. So we pooled it together, and blew the whole $1200 on a trip to the Redwoods and shit. Eureka, gas was $4.75.


John Harshman wrote: Steven Bornfeld wrote: On 3/25/2012 5:11 PM, John Harshman wrote: Wretch Fossil wrote:

NASA produced Moon Hoax >

What hoax? If we went to the moon, why not pick up rocks there? If we

didn't go to the moon, how was it possible to fake the whole thing? > >

   I think he thinks the moon is fake.


It's only a paper moon?

We only see the front. Maybe the back of the moon is all two by fours and shit.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:27:46 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Ray Fischer wrote:

Rightard rule #1: lie, lie again, lie more, lie about lying. >

Those who cannot remember history are doomed to vote for Democrats.


You bet


who saved this nations ass in the 30's?


Franklin Delano Roosevelt = New Deal

Barack Hussein Obama = Raw Deal



Kumbaya Redflower wrote:

>

I think you must be right. After all, Mohammed was actually Abe

Lincoln, too!

>

"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that it’s difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine." -- Abraham Lincoln



Zacharias Mulletstein wrote: >


You think about how hot Hell will be.

Somewhere on the Innertubes I saw proof that heaven was hotter than hell, based on the scripture in Isaiah that talks about the light of seven suns being in heaven.


Theo Bekkers wrote:



It's pretty unlikely that a Catholic would even posses a copy of the

King James Bible. that Bible has about seven books less than the Douay

Bible, which is used by Catholics.


Not true. The deuterocanonicals were also translated and published in the earliest editions of the Authorized Version (also called the KJV). But in 1644, the Long Parliament directed that the deuts should not be used in the Church of England liturgy, so the books were set aside in a separate section called the Apocrypha, and eventually dropped from modern editions altogether.

The curious can find them here:

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/kjv/browse.html


default wrote:



The probability is on par with finding Noah's arc.

I thought Noah's arc was the rainbow.


Jason wrote:



I seem to recall that scripture is about evil people trying to influence

Christians. I believe the scripture is warning Christians to ignore such

people.


If you ignore people, how can they be saved? Is it not written (Matthew 28:19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost ... ?


Jason wrote:



If it is a planet, why it is not listed on the list of planet that we were

forced to memorize in a science class.



Did you memorize that Pluto was a planet? Oops!


Caranx latus wrote:


Try Matthew 4:1-11. Satan took Jesus to a high mountain, but Jesus

originally went to the wilderness.

And from that high mountain Satan showed Jesus all the nations of the world. The Earth was flat in those days. It was before Eru Iluvatar bend the world into a ball and set the Undying Lands at the end the Straight Road which only elves could sail.


Jason wrote:


But it it's going to be so great why aren't you kicking off now? Why

wait for years down here with heart disease and kidney issues?


I am helping people while waiting for my new spirit body. Paul done that.

He also had some sort of medical problem but kept working until he died.


Your ministry sucks. Where did you get ordained, Billy-bob's Seminary and Fish Tackle, in the strip mall between Teriyaki Time and Tattoo Alley?


HVAC wrote:


Germans are a gutter people. Just listen to their language!

Anyone that speaks like that MUST be mentally disturbed.


German for "Beware of Dog": harkentabarkin German for courting: parkanensparken German for painful methane discharge: Ahfartenansmarten German for three blondes in a convertible: Farfromthinkin German for bra: Holdsemfromfloppin. German for Constipation: Farfrompoopin German for virgin: Guttentight


Nick Youngh wrote:


Probavly burried round 1830 by Luman Walter, who hired JS as a ,money

digger. What name had this hill before the Mormons got invilved ?

Probably none. In Washington State we have names for mountains, but hills are a dime a dozen.


Smiler wrote:


Exactly the same applies to universal health care. No enterprise can

function properly with an unhealthy workforce.

Having a lawyer reform health care is like having Rod Blagojevich head up an ethics in government task force.


MarkA wrote:



Deciding that you're going to be abstinent until marriage is fine when

you're sitting in your church youth group meeting, but when that special

someone gives you that special smile, it becomes a whole different story....


The eyes have it.


Jason wrote:



Yes, I do recall learning about the history of a typical river while in

college. I seem to recall that a river starts out as being very strait but

over time bends and meanders. During Noah's flood, I believe the river

below Grand Canyon was mostly strait but over the years has developed

bends and meanders.



Rivers in uplands run straight. Rivers on the flats meander. The Colorado was a river on the flats, but the land rose over millions of years and became uplands. The river retained its meandering course. Same situation happened on the stretch of the Yakima River south of Ellensburg, Washington.


Smiler wrote:



I don't know if it still applies, but when I was there in the 70s, Ireland

was completely 'dry' for 2 hours each Sunday. The pubs were all closed for

the 'Church Hour.'


And that was the longest two hours of the week.


On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:51:42 -0700 (PDT), Dino <whatever@homemail.com

wrote:


In fact, many of our strongest world leaders believe in God.

Many scientist believe in God.

Educators, philosophers, and many others from all walks of life are

very strong and believe in God.

Fallacy of argument from authority.


Mitchell Holman wrote:



   That means God is also OK with incest, since he 

meant for the children of Adam and Eve to be having

sex with each other.

Abraham married his half-sister, and God was okay with that.


Jason wrote:


God is alive and God created life on this earth. Life came from Life and

that complies with the Law of Biogenesis.



So if God is alive, and life only comes from life....where does God come from?


Jason wrote: >

Or a smart thing to do since I don't vote for democrats since so many of

them are advocates of socialism.


The difference between free-market capitalism and centrally-planned liberal socialism is plenty.


Dino wrote:


Difference between liberal and conservative.


If Ronald Reagan farted, liberals would scream that he is destroying

the Ozone Layer.

If Obama farted, liberals would praise him for producing natural gas

Invent a way to power appliances directly from the earth's magnetic field and libs would ban the technology for affecting the navigation system of the common moth.



Jason wrote:


It is free will since God has granted us with free will.


That's not what Paul said in Romans 9:

"Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?"



Jason wrote:


God decided to do it a different way. One preacher believes the reason he

done it that way was to cleanse the planet. The next time, God will use

fire to clease the planet.


Yep, about five billion years from now Sol goes red-giant and swallows the Earth. Jesus ought to return by then.


Jason wrote:


I explained it before--life coming from life. It complies.


You just push the abiogenesis problem back a stage. Who was God's daddy?



Jason wrote:


It can't--but it can have what is called artificial intelligence--like

DATA on Star Trek--the next generation.


This is reality Greg.



duke wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:19:03 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:


    • Earl is the #1 RCC apologist. If the pope said black was white, Earl

would say "that's sbsoliutely 100% right".


The Pope is not infallible on colors.


Seems to me Galileo was hassled by the Pope over his claim of sunspots.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:

>
>

"linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in message

news:s7KdnWCCxZmvi-zSnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@giganews.com...

Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:

>
>

You think about how hot Hell will be.

>

Somewhere on the Innertubes I saw proof that heaven was hotter than

hell, based on the scripture in Isaiah that talks about the light of

seven suns being in heaven.

>

The seven suns are hundreds of miles away, so They don't burn you in

Heaven!

You don't get it. Sunlight is a melange, a sort of bell curve centered on the green frequency. That means there's a crapload of infrared (heat) on the lower end of that bell curve. Crank up the intensity of light (number of photons) seven fold, and you crank up the heat by a corresponding amount.


ala wrote:



This sounds so clever til we remember that back then you could not tell

gender just by name


I mean as far as I could tell Hosea was a chick cos it ended in A

Hebrew names, that rule doesn't work so good. Joshua. Abba.


Jason wrote:

In article <wsGdnULiCeWqtezSnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote:

I explained it before--life coming from life. It complies. >

You just push the abiogenesis problem back a stage. Who was God's daddy?


The Bible does not state the answer to that question.



At least the Mormons solved it: It's daddies all the way back.


Jason wrote:

In article <wsGdnUfiCeU2uezSnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote: >

God is alive and God created life on this earth. Life came from Life and

that complies with the Law of Biogenesis. > >

So if God is alive, and life only comes from life....where does God come

from?


The Bible does not state how God came to be God. The best guess that I

have heard was that God came from another planet or other dimension that

was filled with people that had spirit bodies.


Okey doke. All you know is we're wrong and you're right.


Joe Bruno wrote:


Only homosexual perverts are interested in men's asses.

Er, womenfolk too. Ever seen Keanu's little tush?


Jason wrote:


It may happen before the end of 2012--are you ready? The Mayans had a

calendar that ended the last day of 2012. Why did they do it?


Maybe for the same reason we used to represent a year with only two bytes. Planned obsolescence. No one expected UNIVAC to last until 2001.


• R. L. Measures. wrote:

In article <soadnYXPFu8bt-zSnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

The Pope is not infallible on colors. >

Seems to me Galileo was hassled by the Pope over his claim of sunspots.


    • Galileo was fortunate that he was over the RCC's max permitted age

(65) for Holy Office of the Inquisition torture.

See? The Catholic Church isn't so bad after all!



KabukiBob wrote:


He doesn't. He's a little woman and child abusing bastard from alt

child protective services who whined about ho baldy he was treated by

CPS for abusing a seven year old girl for two years, then when no one

there believed his " I'm a victim" con, he started going after people

there. That's where he met Kent and the tick has been latched onto

Kent ever since.

Thanks. Just wanted to know what he had to do with Mr. Larson. And the answer is, nada.


ala wrote:


That's why he introduced it, so government would have a mechanism to

drive unnecessary speculation out of the market.

Is the definition of "unnecessary" left up to the regulator, as in, "I know it when I see it"  ?


Jahbulon wrote:


When they get washed in the Mormon temple Endowment Ceremony the men are

together with no clothes.


Just like the showers in boot camp, or gym, or prison. But why would that be a worse problem than co-ed nudity?


JTEM wrote:


What if Obama had banned private jets instead of inflicting

suffering on the working poor and middle class?

Why, then the working poor and middle class who assemble those jets would be non-working poor.


BroilJAB wrote:

Obama blasted Hispanics in Florida as 'crooks'

and 'mean-spirited' as he sought to spin the news

of Trayvon killed in an attempted murder of Hispanic.

Hispanics in Florida are fair game for Donks, they're Cuban exiles and vote funny.


BroilJAB wrote:

Excellent points, Dave.

And Science has confirmed both the

location and the severity (perpetual)

of Hell --the earth's interior.

Kind of hard to breathe down there. A person might die.


BroilJAB wrote:

Obama assured an Oklahoma crowd Thursday he favored oil drilling.

They

laughed for 5 minutes. He is on the road to publicize the Obama

Doctrine, which

states that windmills and Green Algae will lower gas prices.

Don't forget to check your tire pressure too.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:17:20 -0700 (PDT), JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:


According to that same office, Clinton's budgets led to

record-setting deficits.


Oh--then how did Dumbya get handed a $300 billion surplus?


He beat Al Gore fair and square, 5 votes to 4.


Patrick wrote:


For the most part, the Catholic Church's inquisitions didn't actually

execute anybody. Instead, they would find the accused guilty or not guilty

of heresy, then turn them over to the government for punishment.


Sort of like the CIA never actually tortured anyone, just renditioned them to some shithole country ending with the letters "-stan" where they boil people's limbs in canola oil.


JohnN wrote: On Friday, March 23, 2012 2:05:59 AM UTC-4, linuxgal wrote: John Harshman wrote: >

And if you're going to make fake moon rocks, why use rocks from

Mars?

Because you can get Mars rocks in Antarctica.


Why did NASA get its Mars rocks from Antarctica? Aren't American made Mars rocks good enough?

Budget cuts. We also get our Amurrican flags from China.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:

>

Athiests hate God. There is no question of this.

They also hate Yosemite Sam. Hate the rackafrackin' mo fo.


Jeanne Douglas wrote:


Where did Jung get his degree in evolutionary biology?

Jale.


duke wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:46:57 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:19:03 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote: >

    • Earl is the #1 RCC apologist. If the pope said black was white, Earl

would say "that's sbsoliutely 100% right".

The Pope is not infallible on colors. >

Seems to me Galileo was hassled by the Pope over his claim of sunspots.


You need to go back and read your astronomy textbook again.

My bad. The Sun is really a flawless glass container into which God, on Day Four, poured the light He created on Day One.


Alex W. wrote:


Secondly, in anatomical terms the male and female nipple are the

same -- so if a woman's nipple is deemed sexual and offensive,

then so should a male nipple.

Beauty rolls out from utility. Nipples on men are about as useful as balls on a priest.


Andrew W wrote:


Each car's onboard computer will communicate with the other and they'll

negotiate a path. They'll go around or above/below each other.

And then when Iran EMP's the US, we'll have the biggest traffic Charlie Foxtrot in history.


MarkA wrote:


Exxon set several new records for profits by any single industry

in history.


You fail to realize that any economy is a giant Carnot engine, driven ultimately by the sun, and profits exist to overcome friction.


Mitchell Holman wrote:


   Since God created people naked and intended for them

them to spend all their time naked how can nudity be a sin?



When Adam and Eve realized they were naked they sewed fig leaves together to make clothes, but God thought it looked like 1990s Seattle grunge fashion, and decided to deck them out with furs. In fact, this was the first sign we have in scripture that God hates figs.


http://www.cleanposts.com/images/thumb/7/78/Figs.jpg/800px-Figs.jpg



duke wrote:


Right, we Catholics don't reject the Apocrapha simply because they were written

in Greek rather than Hebrew, or that they were written in Greece rather than the

Holy Land.


Actually, they were written in the Holy Land. The two books of the Maccabees are about fundamentalist Jews attacking liberal Jews for adopting Greek ways, such as the gymnasium, or foregoing circumcision.

"And what children soever they found within the coast of Israel uncircumcised, those they circumcised valiantly."

Valiantly. Sort of like proto-Republicans.


Jason wrote:


The television show related to this subject said they did not have a

calendar for the year 2013 but did have calendars for all of the years

prior to 2013. >

We don't have a calendar for the year zero AD, and somehow we muddled through.


Andrew W wrote:


Who would have imagined only 30 years ago that we'd have an information

super highway?


By a curious coincidence, William Gibson began writing Neuromancer in 1982.


Jason wrote:


It will help them get what the King James Bible refers to as crowns or

rewards when they make it to heaven. The term "crowns" in this case was

derived from the granting of crowns made of tree leafs to winners of

Olympic Games. If non-Christians from various countries that have never

heard the gospel message--make it to heaven--they will not get any crowns

or rewards.

Which means about as much to us as gold stars next to our name.



Andrew W wrote:


If they are made by Microsoft then the cars will be slower every OS update,

and they'll need more expensive hardware to work properly.

Also everyone will need to learn how to drive again with each new upgrade

because MS keeps changing the menus and layout of it all (just so they can

call it *new*).

Windows is pretty dang configurable, I have to admit but the default configuration when you take your computer out of the box is to maximize showing off all the bells and whistles.



ckdbigtoe@gmail.com wrote:


My experience is that if they frame it in the form of a question, they

have no real evidence, and even a cursory reading of the article

supports that experience. They were talking about a localized flood

and had no evidence to extrapolate that to a worldwide flood.

Lake Missoula flooded this place at the end of the last Ice Age, and there's a lot of evidence in the Columbia River Gorge, and the channeled scablands. It was a mega flood, but still local. A global flood would have the same sort of remnants (like funny little silt "islands" that form long hills) but we got nada.


Jahbulon wrote:



Evidence that the holy Freemason prophet Joseph Smith II (PBUH) liked to

have other people's men and as well as their women.


I won't ask, if you don't tell.


J wrote:


The big draw was Englishman Richard Dawkins. He implored the crowd to

“ridicule and show contempt” for people of faith. “Mock them, ridicule

them in public,” he bellowed. Especially Catholics.

Mr. Dawkins wasn't doing anything we don't do right here in alt.atheism, he's just taking the show on the road.


• R. L. Measures. wrote:

In article

<1737d25f-a602-432d-809c-77e43236d95b@w1g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>, Dino <whatever@homemail.com wrote:


On Mar 27, 10:58=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95 R. L. Measures.) wrote: >

    • =A0parroting the pope. =A0 As I see it ensoulment probably begins at b=

irth. >

I don't know, and I don't pretend to know.


    • agreed. Pope Gregory XIII said it happens on the 40th day of

gestation. Pope Paul VI implied that it happens at conception. All

humans are guessing.


That assumes there is such a thing as ensoulment. Maybe there's no such thing as a soul, only living brains deluding themselves that there's a little person inside us pulling all the strings. And that begs the question, who is pulling THAT person's strings?


• R. L. Measures. wrote:


    • 1870 marks the beginning of the delusion of papal infallibility in

matters of faith and morals. So how the hell can an Assumption (1950) be

infallible?


Because 1870 the hell precedes 1950?


felix_unger wrote:


LOL! that's funny! :) but I agree that atheism requires 'faith'.. faith

in (or trust in the truth of, if you prefer) the belief of the

non-existence of God.

I like Kojak's hair style.


Gernot Hassenpflug wrote:

HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com writes: >

Then you have countries where someone's NAME is the sound I make

when I clear my throat.


Like your username? lovely....


Ancient Klingon blessing: "May you never gag on your gahk!"


Jason wrote:


Jesus never sinned and as a result has become one of the most famous men

that has ever been on this earth. He was an excellent role model for all

Christians.

Really? Jesus never sinned? Let's see.

"Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." -- Jesus

"Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?" -- Jesus

I hope Jesus has asbestos long johns.


Jason wrote:


It's my understanding that they are designing robots that have artificial

intelligence computer chips installed in them.


So you know the part number for those chips? We could use some in our torpedoes.



Mitchell Holman wrote:



   Perhaps it like sex - legal to give away, but a crime to sell?


You can sell sex legally as long as you have a camera in the bedroom so you can claim you're shooting pr0n.



Jason wrote:


Since Adam and Eve were created by God--their genes were perfect. Their

children and grandchilden were also very near perfect--in terms of genes.

Our generation is NOT perfect--in terms of genes.


This is the propaganda of the folks who posit a "fall of man". In fact, things are getting better. People in Japan live to be ninety and shit.


Jason wrote:



You know that the first living cell did NOT evolve from non-living matter.

There's a big gray area below the complexity of bacteria. Viruses, for example, do not have cytoplasm, they must rely on other cells to assemble their offspring. Prions which cause Mad Cow Disease and psorriasis don't even have nucleotides, they're all amino acids and lipids.


Jason wrote:



And you voted for Obama and according to Hannity--Obama has promised the

leaders of the former Soviet Union that he will put an end to our missile

defense system in Europe if he wins the next election.


And by a funny coincidence, Russia has reversed their hard line supporting Assad in Syria. Looks like a case of Quid Pro Quo to me.


Mitchell Holman wrote:


   Bush's idea to "privatize" Social Security was so goofy

that even his own party rejected it. It sank faster than his

nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.


Yeah, he was going to bet the whole kitty on Enron and Hail Mary.


Jeanne Douglas wrote:



The OS, not the computers. Gawd help us all if Microsoft tried to make

computers.


Microsoft Bob, in physical form.


duke wrote:


And God said human life starts with the first cell split.


They knew about cells in those days? Cool.


duke wrote:


And I wouldn't bet against God.

Unless it was a fight between God and the Hittites with their iron chariots. That's a sure bet.

Judges 1:19 And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.


GSI wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b05CMf29-Rk


David Barton says one of the signs of revival is that society stops

tolerating homosexuality.

Sure, it happened when the "pagan" Roman Empire gave way to the Christian Dark Ages.


Don Martin wrote:


Actually, those balls have a use apart from various attempts to impregnate

the alimentary canals of altar boys: without them, the chap would be

disqualified from the priesthood, if memory serves.

Another case of selectively interpreting the Old Testament to apply to the New.

Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken.

It doesn't say anything about the blemish of pedophilia.



duke wrote:


Actually, Jesus gave St. Peter infallible status in 32AD. It's in the bible.


Sure, he did it right here in Matthew 16:18-19:

"And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

But wait, it gets better! What did "infallible" Peter immediately proceed to do? That's right, rebuke Jesus for predicting his own death.

"Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee."

And what did Jesus then call his new infallible Pope? That's right, the devil!

"But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men."

Try reading the Bible one of these days Duke.



Steve O wrote:


What the hell are you babbling on about, you dribbling fool?

Why on earth would an atheist want to keep an archive about atheism?


I suppose it would same time when the fundies roll out the same old arguments.


Andrew W wrote:

"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasmulletstein@isalwaysright.com wrote

in message news:jl05pv$9mf$1@dont-email.me >

Because souls have nerves, dumbass. I thought everybody knew that. >


How can souls have nerves if they don't even have a body??


The nerve of that guy.


duke wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:36:18 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skyeyes9@cox.net wrote:


I did not know that. That's just horrific. I *really* have to get

them to acknowledge that I am no longer a member of their criminal

organization.


Actually, God says you are, and that is really bad news. Backsliders are not

well accepted in heaven.


Just when I thought I was out, they PULL me back in!


Patrick wrote:

"Mike Painter" <md.painter@sbcglobal.net wrote om... On 3/28/2012 12:24 PM, Patrick wrote:


Jesus taught that we should love our neighbor as ourselves (Mark chapter

12

verse 31). Catholics try to put this into practice and find it to be a

life-giving and fulfilling way to live. They are involved in a wide

variety

of charitable works such as running hostels for the homeless and caring

for

the elderly.

Your frequent comments about others show you ignore this.


Catholics TRY to put this into practice.

However, I have found that you cannot play baseball with a

mit on each hand.

Or football with a bat.


Alex W. wrote:


Republicans, neo-cons and that

magalomaniac tosspot Starr failed to make anything stick no

matter what they did: the American public (electorate!) loved the

guy, and it drove them mad.

As a libertarian I still love the guy. He was the last president to make the government debt actually get smaller rather than just talk about doing it.


THE BORG wrote:


Some men think women are "angels". Women are the lowest and ugliest you

can get, how anyone could think Angels would be remotely similar to

those whores and sluts I have no idea.


We-HULLL! I bet you know the words to every Andrew Lloyd Weber show ever put on stage.


William Smith wrote:

Insurance payouts for other people's accidents come from your premiums,

so why not get rid of this racket?

That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. The whole idea of insurance is to create a pool to share risk.


BroilJAB wrote:

Limbaugh makes more in one day

from any of his websites, than the

average journalist makes in 10 years.

Makes more pop tarts maybe.


BroilJAB wrote:

AFter Mitt takes office and orders

the 'sealed records' open on Obama

faked Certificate, then ALL of

ObamaCrap EVAPORATES with it.

To be replaced by RomneyCrap.


BroilJAB wrote:

Here in Arkansas and all across this big beautiful

Christian America, all schoolchildren and all college

kids are enjoying now a respite, The Easter Break.

He wants us all to enjoy His Creation. Won't you?

Who does, the Easter Bunny?


Christopher A. Lee wrote: On 27 Mar 2012 16:34:44 -0000, Kulin <remailer@reece.net.au wrote:


You bigoted, deluded redneck imbeciles attribute everything you don't

like to "the liberals" and then blame all of them.

Q. What do you get when you offer a liberal a penny for his thoughts?

A. Change.


BroilJAB wrote:

The failure to recognize the implications of the

non-coding DNA will go down as the biggest mistake

in the history of molecular biology. -- Dr.J.Mattick


Second only to doctors missing the true purpose of the appendix.


John Harshman wrote: Wretch Fossil wrote:

NASA produced Moon Hoax


What hoax? If we went to the moon, why not pick up rocks there? If we

didn't go to the moon, how was it possible to fake the whole thing?

They hired Douglas Trumbull, who did the special effects for 2001 (in 1968) and Silent Running (in 1971).



BroilJAB wrote:

Remember that Clarene Darrow led the

ACLU to a horrifying debacle against

Senator WJBryan at Scopes in TN.

After that shattering loss, Evolution was

never again included in textbooks for

44 years.

And ever since that day, Tennessee was known for producing a lot of shit-kicker music but not a lot of science.


Liberals are VERMIN wrote:

>

The arch daemon Beelzebub will eternally torment all who refuse to be

God fearing Christians in the fiery bowels of Hell on the lake of

fire!

Why would he torture his buds? Your fairy tale doesn't hang together.


Joe Bruno wrote:


There used to be alot of people who badmouthed GW Bush constantly.

Now that they've seen 3 years of Obama, I'd guess alot of them might be saying:"Gee, maybe GW wasn't so bad after all."

Less bad maybe. Only laid $4.33 trillion of debt on our children and grandchildren.


ala wrote:



Nobody puts God in a box especially if he wants to win a dance contest

Pat Robertson and his ilk put God on the idiot box, where he belongs.


Davej wrote:


But the moral crisis in America isn't a breakdown in private morality.

It's a breakdown in public morality. What Americans do in their

bedrooms is their own business. What corporate executives and Wall

Street financiers do in boardrooms and executive suites affects all of

us.

Only when politicians cover their private losses with public money. Too big to fail and all that tommyrot.


John Baker wrote:

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:27:46 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Ray Fischer wrote:

Rightard rule #1: lie, lie again, lie more, lie about lying. >

Those who cannot remember history are doomed to vote for Democrats.



As bad as the Democrats are, the Republicans are ten times worse.


Trial lawyers didn't buy the Democratic party because they wanted to help poor and sick people, the bought it because it was for sale.



Al-Damanhuri wrote:

Allah says in the Qur'an, the final revelation sent to all of mankind, "He

it is who has sent the Messenger with the Guidance and Deen of Truth. to

make it victorious over all other ways of life even though the disbelievers

hate it."


The American Tradition flew 24 men to the Moon.

The Crescent Moon Tradition flew 19 men into three American buildings.


Free Lunch wrote:


Never heard of triage? There isn't a huge surplus of medical care

available, but the people who need care get it when they need it.

Socialism raises making toilet paper to a first rate economic problem. In socialist countries, they have to resort to toilet paper triage.


Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:

WASHINGTON - The Republican-run House has

overwhelmingly rejected President Obama's $3.6

trillion budget for next year after a vote forced by

GOP lawmakers to embarrass Democrats.


...


The vote was 414-0.


Too bad. So sad.

Had no idea there were zero Democrats in the House.


Jason wrote:

In article <wsGdnULiCeWqtezSnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote:

I explained it before--life coming from life. It complies. >

You just push the abiogenesis problem back a stage. Who was God's daddy?


The Bible does not state the answer to that question.



I feel like Mr. Hand when Jeff Spicoli says "I don't know!"



ala wrote:


"linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in message

news:d5OdnWZdIo6m9u_SnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@giganews.com... >

Beauty rolls out from utility. Nipples on men are about as useful as

balls on a priest.


wasn't there a movie where Ben Stiller nursed his cat with his own nipples

I don't know. I tend to only watch good films, like Vertigo or His Girl Friday.


Barry OGrady wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:07:22 -0400, ThomMadura <Tommadura@optonline.net wrote:


On 27/3/2012 6:32 PM, felix_unger wrote: religion).

the behaviour of atheists indicates otherwise.. >

REALLY -how many atheists do you KNOW?


Are we talking here about poof as in poofter as in homosexual,

or poof as in a foot rest?


Christian context, has to be pillow-biter poof.


MarkA wrote:


Certainly. God can only do good, and disobedience to God is the

definition of sin.


Well, there were a few close calls when God ALMOST didn't do good:

Exodus 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.


Jeanne Douglas wrote:


If he bought "another" football team, then there was a 1st one. What

team did he already own?


Liberals don't think Rush should be an NFL team owner, but then again, they think a quarterback is the ideal tax refund amount.



Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:



Evolutionaryism is the religion of athiesm. All pop athiests practice

it.

I don't practice Evolutionaryism, because I'm already damn good at it.


KILLUMINATI wrote:


Yahweh his the name of God in the hebrew bible. But the hebrew bible

was written with consonants only no vowels so in translation to

english the name of God is Jehovah.


Vanna, wanna 'V'


duke wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:41:12 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


But wait, it gets better! What did "infallible" Peter immediately

proceed to do? That's right, rebuke Jesus for predicting his own death.


Haahaahaa. Another one that doesn't know what ex-cathedra means. And by the

way, 100% of all mankind is a sinner with the exception of Jesus himself. Heb

4:15.

Peter could be sitting on the shitter, but if he pronounces something pertaining to faith or morals (with faith defined as acceptance of divinely revealed things, such as Christ's prophesy of his death), then he teaches without error. But this fails the scripture test.


Jason wrote:


Only a socialist president would make it impossible for new coal fired

plants to be constucted.


Yeah, when Wilson closed the government buggy whip factories they called him socialist too.



Jason wrote:


Thank goodness for Christian schools and home schooling programs. At least

some children are learning the truth about how life came to be on this

planet.


What a shock when they try to apply at Uni.



Jason wrote:


They may have got burned out making flat rocks out of round rocks. One

poster told me that the Maya wrote their calendars on flat rocks.


That was to keep the racehorses from pissing on them.



Tom Potter wrote:

"linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in message

news:Q8ydndYo4KEOJu7SnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com... Steve O wrote: >

What the hell are you babbling on about, you dribbling fool?

Why on earth would an atheist want to keep an archive about atheism?

I suppose it would same time when the fundies roll out the same old

arguments.


I trust that "linuxgal" will explain what she means by "fundies"

and what "the same old arguments" are.

Fundies are people who adhere doggedly to unfalsifiable theories of origin, and fall back on their book (Bible, Q'u'r'a'n) when they are cornered by observational evidence to the contrary.

The same old arguments are, including but not limited to, objections to infinite regress, argument from fine-tuning, objections to the strawman known as "macroevolution", the water canopy, irreducable complexity, argument from miracles, ontological argument, Pascal's Wager, appeal to authority, argumentum ad populum, argumentum ad naseaum...


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:26:33 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Free Lunch wrote: >

Never heard of triage? There isn't a huge surplus of medical care

available, but the people who need care get it when they need it.

Socialism raises making toilet paper to a first rate economic problem.

In socialist countries, they have to resort to toilet paper triage.


Bullshit.

Naw, the bulls have to fend for themselves.


• R. L. Measures. wrote:


    • You left out the part about Pope Peter's error of not requiring that

priests vow not to have sex with females - thereby attracting men who had

no desire whatsoever to have sex with females.


Well, Pope Peter had a mother-in-law, which meant that he had a wife. He didn't want to be a hypocrite, so he left that to his successor popes.


Don Martin wrote:

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:53:12 -0500, Doc Smartass <FortbrickGeek@yahoobrick.com> wrote:


"Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com wrote in

news:e9Ecr.46143$IQ1.7675@newsfe18.iad: > >

What are the goals of atheists?

Good pizza. Good beer. Good music.


You left out good sex.


Even bad sex is pretty dang good.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Mar-28 13:44, Brian E. Clark wrote:

In article<hlwdjsd-6018BF.01145727032012@

5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, hlwdjsd@NOSPAMpacbell.net says... >

I've been waiting for my flying car since I saw The Jetsons. >

I gave up selling Jetsons-type technology after I lost my

shirt on my last business venture: we sold treadmills meant

for walking your dog without leaving your house. The units

were six feet long, and they attached to the exterior of

your skyscraper apartment by means of a two-foot steel

tongue. We determined that no troublesome curbs or rails or

safety nets were needed, but for some reason this led to

serious liability issues.


You probably should have invested in helicopter ejection seats instead.


Or failing that, screen doors for attack submarines.


Alex W. wrote:


The fact is that neither the Old Testament nor the New so much as

mentions Lesbians or same-sex practices between women.

Actually, Paul mentioned it to the Church of Rome in his epistle:

1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:



Everybody seems to forget that Satan is mentally ill and has no concept

of right and wrong. He's a fucking lunatic.

Then maybe he shouldn't be punished in the Lake of Fire.


Smiler wrote:


I've asked how a supposedly disembodied soul can _feel_ the supposed heat

of their supposed hell. No theist has been able to coherently answer that.


It's all simulated, like in The Matrix.


Jason wrote:


It's a fact. I once talked to a doctor about this subject. He said that

totally new genetic diseases develop every generation. Many of those NEW

genetic diseases develop when cousins marry cousins.



God commanded Zelophehad's five daughters to marry their cousins so their inheritance would remain in the family. It is precisely to prevent the accumulation of wealth in families (and thus threaten the temporal power of the Papacy) that Pope Gregory I made cousin-marriage forbidden for all Catholics.


duke wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 04:17:04 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: >

And I wouldn't bet against God.

Unless it was a fight between God and the Hittites with their iron

chariots. That's a sure bet.


Nah, even Moses watched the chariots sink and drown the Egyptians.


Those were brass chariots. Up Canaan way they had genuine iron ones, put the fear of science into God.


duke wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 04:14:09 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

And God said human life starts with the first cell split.


They knew about cells in those days? Cool.


Yeah, God invented cells.


Well I'm trying to figure out where God SAID human life started with a cell. I hope you didn't just pull that out the same place Obama gets his unemployment projections.


duke wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:25:41 -0400, ThomMadura <Tommadura@optonline.net wrote:


However - there is NO reason to believe that the UNIVERSE had do begin 0

it is just as possible that it always existed


Of course there is. You are pushing existence without creation.


You can posit an eternal universe, or an eternal God who then creates the universe later. Atheists just cut out the middle man.


• R. L. Measures. wrote:

In article <Dbidnc8rXsxT4OnSnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


• R. L. Measures. wrote: >

    • You left out the part about Pope Peter's error of not requiring that

priests vow not to have sex with females - thereby attracting men who had

no desire whatsoever to have sex with females. >

Well, Pope Peter had a mother-in-law, which meant that he had a wife.

He didn't want to be a hypocrite, so he left that to his successor popes.


• Chortle. Why the 1000-year delay?


For a long time the consensus was that large cats can be dangerous, but a little pussy never hurt anyone.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Mar-29 09:24, linuxgal wrote: Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: >

You probably should have invested in helicopter ejection seats instead. >

Or failing that, screen doors for attack submarines.


There'd also be more potential with that business venture to diversify

by producing mesh parachutes (dare we call it an "off-shoot?").


Also spit valves for violins, double-sided playing cards, open-toed safety shoes, flavored suppositories, inflatable dart boards, Braille drive up ATMs and dehydrated water.



duke wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:18:10 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Just when I thought I was out, they PULL me back in!


Once you are baptized, there is no return to the old way. It's an indelible

mark that cannot be removed because it is on your soul.


On the contrary, it is written (2 Peter 2:21-22) For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.


duke wrote: >

You make 'em, you feed 'em. Unless you're morally vacant.


Is that what your omnibenevolent God does after he makes new Somalis and North Koreans?


duke wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:08:36 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:


• How can an Assumption be?


The Holy Spirit said so.


Assume makes an ASS out of U and ME.


duke wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:55:26 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

Right, we Catholics don't reject the Apocrapha simply because they were written

in Greek rather than Hebrew, or that they were written in Greece rather than the

Holy Land.


Actually, they were written in the Holy Land. The two books of the

Maccabees are about fundamentalist Jews attacking liberal Jews for

adopting Greek ways, such as the gymnasium, or foregoing circumcision.


You missed what I said. They were written in Greek rather than Hebrew, and/or

they were prepared in Greece rather than the holy land.

Not Greece, but Alexandria, presided over by the Ptolemies, where as many as a third of the population were Jews.


duke wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:38:56 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:

>

That assumes there is such a thing as ensoulment. Maybe there's no

such thing as a soul, only living brains deluding themselves that

there's a little person inside us pulling all the strings. And that

begs the question, who is pulling THAT person's strings?

>

In your case, it's satan.

That's not so bad. Satan adhered to the letter of the contract on the Job job, and in the Garden he corrected Yahweh's little white lie that Eve would die "in the day thereof" that she ate of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. So he's a faithful seraph devoted to truth.


• R. L. Measures. wrote:


• As I understand it, neither he nor "Duke" are that little.


It's a common malady of those who live on USENET, surrounded by pizza boxes.


duke wrote:


Wow, I didn't know that. I wonder how a goat herder some 2700 years ago knew

what God did 13.7 billion years ago.

God did Creation Week in 4,163 BCE. Either that, or the Bible is wrong.

http://www.cleanposts.com/index.php/Age


Archangel Gabriel wrote:

Each time a woman intakes food or drink you can watch her being destroyed.

Each time a woman has sex you can watch her being destroyed.


Destroy me some more, baby!


BroilJAB wrote:

The High Court will jettison it

Never trust an unread 50,000 page Health Care Reform bill farther than you can throw it.


Dakota wrote:

When people talk about 'the Bible,' they don't seem to realize that it

is an ever changing document

He who spaketh unto Ephtshpareht, Maigollygoshgolah and Amog in the days of Najobullahdongblod (Hezekiah 13:9)


BroilJAB wrote:

www.answersingenesis.org/


Q. What is the definition of gross ignorance?

A. 144 fundies.


sbalneav wrote: >

Tautology. "In the book about our thing, we selected the things that were

about our thing". Well, yeah. That's obvious.

Redundant book title: Windows For Dummies


duke wrote:


The selected books that go into the Book of Books satisfies the criteria of

being in accordance with the teachings of Jesus Christ. And hence their

selection.

And the teachings of Jesus Christ that were used as criteria were given in the selected books. The bishops who selected these books was a group of insiders who greeted everyday Christians with their backsides; in other words, a closed circle of asses.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Mar-29 06:43, linuxgal wrote:


As a libertarian I still love the guy. He was the last president to make

the government debt actually get smaller rather than just talk about

doing it.


In all fairness, Obama likely would have accomplished the same thing if

not for the Republican Resistance that we see today.


True, under the Obama Adminstration the federal government is expanding, but it is expanding to meet the needs of an expanding government.


duke wrote:


I'm listening to Fox News right now. I hear them via my ears.


That explains much. What's next, Beck? Got your stash of ammunition and canned food?


Jason wrote:

In article , linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote:

Only a socialist president would make it impossible for new coal fired

plants to be constucted. >

Yeah, when Wilson closed the government buggy whip factories they called

him socialist too.



There is not need for buggy whips but there is still a need for coal fired

plants that are used to make electricity.



Naw, fracking has made natural gas very cheap.


Jason wrote:

In article <I-GdnYwCB7im5-nSnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote: >

Thank goodness for Christian schools and home schooling programs. At least

some children are learning the truth about how life came to be on this

planet. >

What a shock when they try to apply at Uni.


They are also taught evolution THEORY.



You say "theory" like it's a bad thing.


Patrick wrote:


I really don't like Pizza. First day is OK.

Leftover Pizza is yuck.

>

Breakfast of champions!


Don Martin wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:38:38 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:55:26 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > duke wrote: > Right, we Catholics don't reject the Apocrapha simply because they were written > in Greek rather than Hebrew, or that they were written in Greece rather than the > Holy Land.

Actually, they were written in the Holy Land. The two books of the

Maccabees are about fundamentalist Jews attacking liberal Jews for

adopting Greek ways, such as the gymnasium, or foregoing circumcision.

You missed what I said. They were written in Greek rather than Hebrew, and/or

they were prepared in Greece rather than the holy land.

Not Greece, but Alexandria, presided over by the Ptolemies,


Of whom the greatest was M'mumadun.


I'm partial to Cleo VII.


sbalneav wrote:

>

I'm mainly GNU/Linux these days, but I've administered Dec's, Digitals,

HPUX, RS6000, and a lot of Solaris. Worked on Suns back in the old SunOS

4.mumble days when it was still BSD based. One of these days I'll get a box

set up for OpenSolaris.

I got OSol on Virtual Box under Ubuntu. You gotta get this thing.


Calvin Ramsey wrote:

Only the Calvinist seems to take the fall of man seriously.

Everyone else sees man getting better.


Brian E. Clark wrote:

In article <oa-dnahTwpVj4unSnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@giganews.com>,

linuxgal@cleanposts.com says...


I've asked how a supposedly disembodied soul can _feel_ the supposed heat

of their supposed hell. No theist has been able to coherently answer that. >

It's all simulated, like in The Matrix.


Strangely enough, I've seen such an explanation offered

with perfect conviction. When I point out that Neo had a

real body with a real brain, via which the aliens were

sending information about the virtual world comprising the

Matrix, I was met with a blank stare.


Yes, but in the hell scenario, God starts with billions of stock, off-the-shelf AI point awarenesses upon which he impresses the memories and personality of everyone who didn't accept Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior. Then those awarenesses are tormented for eternity. That will show them. They should have listened to Pat Robertson when they had a chance.


sbalneav wrote:

On 12-03-29 08:59 PM, linuxgal wrote:

sbalneav wrote:

>

I'm mainly GNU/Linux these days, but I've administered Dec's, Digitals,

HPUX, RS6000, and a lot of Solaris. Worked on Suns back in the old SunOS

4.mumble days when it was still BSD based. One of these days I'll get

a box

set up for OpenSolaris.

>

I got OSol on Virtual Box under Ubuntu. You gotta get this thing.

>

Played around much with zfs? I keep hearing how it's all that and a bag

of chips. It certainly seems interesting.

It's proprietary, and hasn't made it's way to Linux because it isn't GPL'd. When I test drive Open Solaris the underlying file system doesn't really rise to my attention.


• R. L. Measures. wrote:


    • The GOP is so put of touch with voters.


Democrats tolerate everything except conservatism.


Just Wondering wrote:


From the news, it sounds like that sort of thing still goes on in some 

African nations to this very day.


The UN council on Human Rights includes such luminaries as Qatar, Saudi Arabia, China, Kyrgyzstan (which does the extraordinary renditions for the CIA), Thailand, Russia, and Cuba, so if slavery is still going on in some African countries, take it up with them.

Heh.


duke wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:37:59 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

I'm listening to Fox News right now. I hear them via my ears.


That explains much. What's next, Beck? Got your stash of ammunition

and canned food?


As long as buckwheat is in office, America is in trouble of being overrun.


Q. What do you call Obama, Biden, and Dolly Parton in the same elevator?

A. Two boobs and a country music star.


duke wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:43:39 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:38:56 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: >

That assumes there is such a thing as ensoulment. Maybe there's no

such thing as a soul, only living brains deluding themselves that

there's a little person inside us pulling all the strings. And that

begs the question, who is pulling THAT person's strings?

In your case, it's satan.

That's not so bad. Satan adhered to the letter of the contract on the

Job job, and in the Garden he corrected Yahweh's little white lie that

Eve would die "in the day thereof" that she ate of the fruit of the Tree

of Knowledge of Good and Evil. So he's a faithful seraph devoted to truth.


How long was a day then?


Shorter. Friction due to solar and lunar tides are slowly braking the Earth's rotation.


duke wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:29:28 -0400, MarkA <nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote:


True. The Pope is savvy enough to keep himself surrounded by an army

of yes men.


They are all intelligent men.


BRUSSELS - A Roman Catholic bishop has called on EU leaders who are Christians to speak out against the Vatican if it makes "stupid" remarks, such as a recent declaration that homosexuality causes paedophilia.


duke wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:56:37 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Peter could be sitting on the shitter, but if he pronounces something

pertaining to faith or morals (with faith defined as acceptance of

divinely revealed things, such as Christ's prophesy of his death), then

he teaches without error. But this fails the scripture test.


That's why it's ex-cathedra.


Jesus, Duke, ex cathedra means, literally, "from the chair". Hold out your knuckles, Sister Linuxgal has a ruler with your name on it.


duke wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:19:05 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


• R. L. Measures. wrote: >

    • You left out the part about Pope Peter's error of not requiring that

priests vow not to have sex with females - thereby attracting men who had

no desire whatsoever to have sex with females. >

Well, Pope Peter had a mother-in-law, which meant that he had a wife.

He didn't want to be a hypocrite, so he left that to his successor popes.


Celibacy is a choice of the priesthood, not dogma.


But it's mandatory that they choose it.


duke wrote:

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:44:15 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:

>

duke wrote:

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 04:14:09 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:

>

duke wrote:

>

And God said human life starts with the first cell split.

They knew about cells in those days? Cool.

Yeah, God invented cells.

>

Well I'm trying to figure out where God SAID human life started with a

cell. I hope you didn't just pull that out the same place Obama gets

his unemployment projections.

>

God gave all of us the intelligence to figure it out for ourselves. Some use

this ability, some don't.

>

Well, use your intelligence to figure out where God said life starts with the first cell split, or retract the claim.

Actually, God said Jeremiah's life began when he was still a Hershey Bar in his dad's back pocket.

Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.


duke wrote:

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:52:30 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:

>
>

    • In LA the $662,000,000 settlement was under 2% hetero, 98% homo.
>

That's what I figured - very few pedos.

>

Your own Roman Curia says homosexuality leads to pedophilia.


duke wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:13:49 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


You can posit an eternal universe, or an eternal God who then creates

the universe later. Atheists just cut out the middle man.


No such evidence.

Occam's Razor. Thou Shalt Not Multiply Entities Needlessly.


duke wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:26:25 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

You make 'em, you feed 'em. Unless you're morally vacant.


Is that what your omnibenevolent God does after he makes new Somalis and

North Koreans?


God doesn't make new Somalis and NKoreans.

The prophet Isaiah saw it differently.

49:5 And now, saith the LORD that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the LORD, and my God shall be my strength.


duke wrote:

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:29:32 -0700, "Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess" <goddess@fidemturbare.com wrote:


How much real estate do you think the Vatican actually has title to?


109 acres estimated.


You forgot the other 177 million acres. Only the sovereigns of the KSA and UK have more land.

http://www.businessinsider.com/worlds-biggest-landowners-2011-3?op=1


Jason wrote:


If America is still a country 100 years from now, the scientists living at

that time will be teaching information that they are NOT teaching this

year. That means most everything they teach in evolution related classes

is false information.


Creationism is demonstrably false now, and we don't have to wait 100 years.

This is the model of the universe which is presented in Genesis.

http://www.cleanposts.com/images/6/67/Firm2.png


Jason wrote:


You say "theory" like it's a bad thing.


My point was that macro evolution is a theory and not a FACT.


There is no such thing as macroevolution anyway. It's all micro. And the changes happen over deep time.



Jason wrote:


The facts of evolution showed scientists what they needed to develop the

theory of evolution. There are no facts of creation.


Yes, there is. ICR has published dozens of books about creation.


A fact is observed data. What observations did ICR publish, other than they think Darwin was a caca doodoo head?



Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:



God didn't want to know what happened, so He gave Himself amnesia so He

would be surprised. He's powerful enough to do that. And that's why He

gave us free will. So He could enjoy us and we could make Him happy and

giddy.

If Mulletstein is a real theist I nominate this for the TQotM. If he's a snark artist, then never mind.


Tom Potter wrote:

"linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in message

news:Dbidnc0rXsyU4enSnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@giganews.com...

>

Tom Potter wrote:

>

"linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in message

news:Q8ydndYo4KEOJu7SnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com...

>

Steve O wrote: > > Why on earth would an atheist want to keep an archive about atheism?

>

I suppose it would same time when the fundies roll out the same old

arguments.

>

I trust that "linuxgal" will explain what she means by "fundies"

and what "the same old arguments" are.

>

Fundies are people who adhere doggedly to unfalsifiable theories of

origin, and fall back on their book (Bible, Q'u'r'a'n) when they are

cornered by observational evidence to the contrary. >

The same old arguments are, including but not limited to, objections to

infinite regress, argument from fine-tuning, objections to the strawman

known as "macroevolution", the water canopy, irreducable complexity,

argument from miracles, ontological argument, Pascal's Wager, appeal to

authority, argumentum ad populum, argumentum ad naseaum...


Thanks to "linuxgal" for explaining

what she meant by "fundies"

what "the same old arguments" are,


but she didn't explain what this had to

do with my post.

My post was in reply to Steve O. His post was in reply to you. So take it up with him.


sbalneav wrote: Smiler <Youmustbe@joeking.com wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 02:47:01 -0700, yjk wrote:


<snip>


The 'New Romantics' era, when men wore make-up, was in the 1970s.


So do you picture yjk as Ziggy Stardust Bowie, Thin White Duke Bowie,

or Berlin Bowie?


I'm thinkin TWD. Dave was pretty coked out in those days, and yjk

makes about as much sense.

Ashes to ashes, funk to funky We know Major Tom's a junkie Strung out on heaven's high Hitting an all time low.


Big Steel wrote: On 3/30/2012 9:01 AM, linuxgal wrote: Just Wondering wrote: >

From the news, it sounds like that sort of thing still goes on in some

African nations to this very day. > >

The UN council on Human Rights includes such luminaries as Qatar, Saudi

Arabia, China, Kyrgyzstan (which does the extraordinary renditions for

the CIA), Thailand, Russia, and Cuba, so if slavery is still going on in

some African countries, take it up with them. >


All started by what?


http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/guns-germs-and-steel/


Africa is stilling reeling from the European encounter.

I don't have a dog in that hunt, my background is Asian.


Tom Potter wrote: >

It is a short, concise explanation of what Gos is

and what God expects from mankind.


http://184.105.237.216/~tompotte/god.html


Here's a shorter one (it's between the quotes). ---

""



HVAC wrote: On 3/30/2012 4:49 AM, Painius wrote: > >

And Harlow, you feel free to chime right in, because if I'm not

mistaken, you do not accept that the Universe is infinite. And yet,

here it is, quite the mainstream, Ned Wright, description.



The universe is finite, yet unbounded.


We don't know it's finite. We can only see to the observable horizon.


{:-]))) wrote: David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com wrote:


So do you know of any living or past (even in folktales)

figures who have gone through a similar thorny experience?


Well, there was that Jesus fellow.


Master Je Tzu, we call him in my circles.


mind wrote:


When a church is razed, for whatever "reason"

the righteous, or just, will see it in the light

of faith. Whatever the so-called, "cause",

the justification will take the believer

from faith to faith.


Faith in the science of lightning rods would have prevented such a tragedy.


{:-]))) wrote:


Once upon a time

there was a furnace

into which three young men

were thrown for some reason or other.


Within the oven was seen a fourth.

Exactly who that one forth was

may be part of a mystery.

Some say the fourth one was the twelvth Imam, Some say Jesus or Hubbard or shit. Which makes me think the fourth was really Dr. Hermann Rorschach


{:-]))) wrote: >

Discipline in terms of food, for me,

tends to be vanity. I can trim down

but ask myself why? Why do I want to appear,

why do I want this body I call me to look

as if it was 18, or 30, years old? >

Thus it is that the Tao produces all asses, Nourishes them, brings them to their full growth, Nurses them, completes them, matures them, maintains them, and Overspreads them.


HVAC wrote: On 3/29/2012 7:46 PM, sbalneav wrote: > >

Obviously, we can never see back to the beginning. >

More to the point, the universe is only about 13.7 billion years old.

The MAXIMUM distance we can see would be about 13.7 billion light years.


No. It took some time for the first stars to form and begin

nuclear fusion. Before that, the universe was 'dark'.

The universe was never dark. That background radiation that you measure as matching the black body radiation of an object at 2.7 deg K used to be centered in the visual band, and higher, because space-time wasn't quite so stretched out in those days.


HVAC wrote: On 3/30/2012 10:35 AM, linuxgal wrote: HVAC wrote: On 3/30/2012 4:49 AM, Painius wrote: > >

And Harlow, you feel free to chime right in, because if I'm not

mistaken, you do not accept that the Universe is infinite. And yet,

here it is, quite the mainstream, Ned Wright, description. > >

The universe is finite, yet unbounded. > >

We don't know it's finite. We can only see to the observable horizon.


Since time is finite, (at least in one direction) then the

universe is finite.... Yet it remains unbounded.


By analogy, a flat sheet of infinite area is finite along the z axis, but infinite along the x and y axes.


Marvin the Martian wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:16:56 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


Moral of this story: Don't fuck with Einstein.


Einstein has been wrong many times; he was wrong about the cosmological

constant, he was wrong when he denounced Father LeMaitre's big bang

theory as "Catholic Science", he was wrong about the EPR paradox...


Actually, he got the cosmological constant thing right, but he didn't know it was attributable to the repulsion of dark energy.


Don Martin wrote:

>

And let us remember that while Zeus can be a nasty SOB from time to time

(castrating one's father _is_ rather beyond the pale in most societies), he

never wiped out large swatches of the population out of anger and

disappointment.

Zeus was more about Predator drone type lightning strikes than area carpet bombing.


duke wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 05:07:02 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

>

How long was a day then?


Shorter. Friction due to solar and lunar tides are slowly braking the

Earth's rotation.


I can accept the "shorter" answer. But how long was a day then?


The exact rate varied with each collision. It doesn't matter. You accept the shorter answer, so you can't twist scripture to get a six day week that lasts for millions of years.


duke wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 19:55:08 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

Those were brass chariots. Up Canaan way they had genuine iron ones,

put the fear of science into God.

The result was the same.


Yeah, God wasn't able to hand over the Promised Land to the Chosen

People on schedule.


Oh, nooooo. He got them there EXACTLY on his time schedule.


Really? They were already forty years behind the original schedule and the iron chariot things just exacerbated things.

Numbers 14:

[22] Because all those men which have seen my glory, and my miracles, which I did in Egypt and in the wilderness, and have tempted me now these ten times, and have not hearkened to my voice;

[23] Surely they shall not see the land which I sware unto their fathers, neither shall any of them that provoked me see it:


duke wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 05:10:28 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:56:37 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: >

Peter could be sitting on the shitter, but if he pronounces something

pertaining to faith or morals (with faith defined as acceptance of

divinely revealed things, such as Christ's prophesy of his death), then

he teaches without error. But this fails the scripture test.

That's why it's ex-cathedra.


Jesus, Duke, ex cathedra means, literally, "from the chair". Hold out

your knuckles, Sister Linuxgal has a ruler with your name on it.


You don't understand. Why does it fail the scripture test?

Because if infallibility is limited to teachings on faith and morals, the first thing Peter did as Pope was demonstrate a lack of faith in Christ's prophesy that he would be crucified. He should have kept his mouth shut if he didn't believe.

I anticipate you will salvage this by saying infallibility only kicks in when Peter is actually sitting on his throne as the Bishop of Rome in St. John Lateran. Well, Peter didn't even get to Rome until at least the Sixties. Most of his time was spent in Antioch, Syria. And that negates your "32 AD" claim,


duke wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 05:10:52 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:19:05 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: >

Well, Pope Peter had a mother-in-law, which meant that he had a wife.

He didn't want to be a hypocrite, so he left that to his successor popes.

Celibacy is a choice of the priesthood, not dogma.


But it's mandatory that they choose it.


We now have some married priests in the RCC who came in from the Episcopalian

priesthood.


Yes, but if their wife dies, they must choose celibacy and cannot marry again, while that option remains open to any Roman Catholic layman.


duke wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:06:59 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:


• Paul VI was so over the top anti-Jewish that some of his speeches had

to be removed from public view. Pope Paul VI not only defended Pius XII's

silence during the extermination of the Jews -- he tried to convince the

world that Pius XII had really done the right thing! In his Passion Sunday

Sermon for 1965, Paul VI blamed the entire Jewish race for slandering and

killing Jesus.


You mean like buckwheat always blaming President Bush for his problems?


Obama Computer Virus: Makes Turbo Tax raid your Quicken folder, then it shuts your computer down and blames Bush.


HVAC wrote: >

This is why AGW deniers are all insane.



What the fuck does FTL neutrinos have to do with global warming? >

Same rush to publish as Pons and Fleischmann of cold fusion infamy. Same lack of attention to detail.


Logan Sacket wrote:


Since the science community has been prostituted by the government and

it's funding, hence the global warming scandle, why wouldn't college

educated people be skeptical?

You subsidize what you want and tax what you don't want. If there's grant money for research that supports AGW, then that's what they get.


John Manning cited (snipped to bring out the point):


>In a 51-47 vote, 43 Senate Republicans and four Democrats filibustered
>to protect $24 billion in tax breaks for Big Oil.
>
>The oil industry spent over $146,000,000 on lobbying last year.
>

Put $146 million up front to get $24 billion, not a bad investment. Too bad our democracy is for sale.


duke wrote:

On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:05:53 -0700, "Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess" <goddess@fidemturbare.com wrote:


On 2012-Mar-30 06:23, linuxgal wrote: >

Occam's Razor. Thou Shalt Not Multiply Entities Needlessly.

Apparently there's a new religion being formed for that. I recall that

there was some spam posted for it here in alt.atheism recently, but I'm

having trouble remembering what it was called.


I think it's called "fidem linux".


Linux has gurus. Mac has evangelists. Windows has penitents.


duke wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 05:23:00 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:13:49 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: >

You can posit an eternal universe, or an eternal God who then creates

the universe later. Atheists just cut out the middle man.

No such evidence.

Occam's Razor. Thou Shalt Not Multiply Entities Needlessly.


The simple answer goes to the evidence.


It works like this: If you are presented with two sequences of events, the shorter one is true:

1. I had a headache. 2. I prayed to God 3. I took aspirin. 4. My headache went away.

OR

1. I had a headache. 2. I took aspirin. 3. My headache went away.



duke wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:17:00 +0100, Les Hellawell <les_not@here.com wrote:


Since no evidence is presented Dukes claims are dismissed

automatically


And since you provide no support for there being no God, your claims are

dismissed automatically.


You provide no support for there being no descent with variation. Your claims of the intervention of a deity are dismissed automatically.


duke wrote:


No, it IS correct. I waste my time preparing an answer and you just say "that's

not evidence". When you are prepared to explain your support for why there is

no God, then I can then say "that's not support". A discussion is meaningless

unless you are prepared to meet me half way.


There is an invisible elf green named Kazoo who rides on my shoulder. A discussion about his existence is meaningless unless you are prepared to meet me half way.


duke wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 05:19:21 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:52:30 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote: >

    • In LA the $662,000,000 settlement was under 2% hetero, 98% homo.

That's what I figured - very few pedos. >

Your own Roman Curia says homosexuality leads to pedophilia.


No, it doesn't.


On the contrary:

SANTIAGO, Chile - The Vatican's second-highest authority says the sex scandals haunting the Roman Catholic Church are linked to homosexuality and not celibacy among priests.

Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the Vatican's secretary of state, made the comments during a news conference Monday in Chile, where one of the church's highest-profile pedophile cases involves a priest having sex with young girls.

"Many psychologists and psychiatrists have demonstrated that there is no relation between celibacy and pedophilia. But many others have demonstrated, I have been told recently, that there is a relation between homosexuality and pedophilia. That is true," said Bertone. "That is the problem."


Thank you for playing, Duke, please drive through.


duke wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 05:32:19 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:



The Vatican doesn't own that land. The grounds and structure of my Church

parish is owned by the Parish as a taxable entity. Each individual parish is

its own separate public juridic person.


And what happens when a parish priest sells his church overflow parking lot to the city to become a softball field? He gets sacked by the bishop. And what happens if the bishop doesn't sack him? He gets recalled to the Vatican for a butt reaming.


HVAC wrote: On 3/31/2012 11:04 AM, RLW wrote: >

Yet as I recall they didn't believe the elusive little critters were

travelling faster than the speed of light. They believed they'd made an

error and were inviting others to help find it.



Is that why he 'resigned'?


His wife was at the press conference. He said he had done much prayer about the situation, and God told him he needed to spend more quality time with his family.


Jason wrote:

In article <g4Wdndzj7ttYzuvSnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote: >

I don't think that will happen. My rapture beliefs are based on the

Bible--not the strange beliefs of the JWs. I seem to remember that they

believe a secret rapture took place about a 50 years ago. >

I hope you're not pre-trib, Jesus said he was coming "after the

tribulation of those days".


Yes, I am a pre-triber. >

Too bad. You don't want to be in the first batch, they get burned.

Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.



Jason wrote:


I believe the ICR books are truthful.


From ICR's Henry Morris and his The Beginning Of the World, Second 

Edition (1991), pp. 147-148:

The descendants of Ham were marked especially for secular service to mankind. Indeed they were to be 'servants of servants,' that is 'servants extraordinary!' Although only Canaan is mentioned specifically (possibly because the branch of Ham's family through Canaan would later come into most direct contact with Israel), the whole family of Ham is in view. The prophecy is worldwide in scope and, since Shem and Japheth are covered, all Ham's descendants must be also. These include all nations which are neither Semitic nor Japhetic. Thus, all of the earth's 'colored' races,--yellow, red, brown, and black--essentially the Afro-Asian group of peoples, including the American Indians--are possibly Hamitic in origin and included within the scope of the Canaanitic prophecy, as well as the Egyptians, Sumerians, Hittites, and Phoenicians of antiquity.



Larry wrote:


However, the universe became transparent to neutrinos about 1 second after

the big bang. That's of only academic interest, since the universe was

probably so homogeneous that the neutrino background would just be white

noise with no structure.

And since almost everything is transparent to neutrinos, in practical terms there's little means to glean information. About all we can do now is note the time delay between a supernova and a neutrino burst and set a lower limit on their rest mass.


sbalneav wrote:

>

It's odd that the older Gods, while, powerful, were never really considered to

be omni-anything. Neither omniscient, nor omnipotent, and certainly not

omnibenevolent.

This applies to the Judeo-Christian God as well. The farther back you go in scripture, the less aloof and powerful he appears, to the point of

 being clueless about what's happening in Babel, or where Adam and Eve 

are hiding, or how to make Jacob cry uncle in a wrassling match.


thomas p. wrote:

"linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com skrev i meddelelsen

news:GoSdnY4_AoREgurSnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@giganews.com... >

There is an invisible elf green named Kazoo who rides on my shoulder. A

discussion about his existence is meaningless unless you are prepared to

meet me half way.



The evidence for Kazoo is all around us. Furthermore your personal, written

testimony is clearly evidence. Duke probably hates Kazoo and will,

therefore, deny his existence.


That is duke's prerogative, because Kazoo created him with free will. However, if he fails to see Kazoo with eyes of faith, then when he dies he will not remember how to answer the Questioners, and he will be cast into a vat of boiling hyena vomit for all time.


Jason wrote:

>

I don't think that will happen. My rapture beliefs are based on the

Bible--not the strange beliefs of the JWs. I seem to remember that they

believe a secret rapture took place about a 50 years ago.


Yeah, your secret rapture was 1988, oops, 2000, oops, 2007, oops, 2012.




Jason wrote: >

Are they teaching the exact same information in high school biology

classes this year--that they taught 100 years ago?


Your buddy Hal Lindsey wrote "1980s: Countdown to Armageddon", which is so lame you can't even find it at thrift shops anymore. So it works both ways.



BJACOBY@teranews.com wrote: On 3/31/2012 8:25 AM, HVAC wrote: On 3/30/2012 6:16 PM, linuxgal wrote:


Moral of this story: Don't fuck with Einstein. >

Couldn't have said it better myself!


OK, Class. Did everyone get HVAC's point here? In Science there are

certain accepted FACTS. Evolution is FACT. That there are no UFOs is

FACT. That Einstein's rules of physics are FACT.

Facts are data points. Theories are models which use those data points to make predictions about future data points. Theories are ranked in order of how thoroughly this predictive process has been carried out. Einstein's theory is superb. Descent with variation is useful. Quantum loop gravity is tentative. UFO's exist, I saw one myself that was later identified as a Soviet first stage booster. But it's very tentative to identify them as piloted craft from other planets. Intelligent Design is more tentative than George Bush answering a question about Saddam's biological weapons while Cheney is drinking a glass of water.


Jason wrote:

>

Interesting but it means nothing. Millions of jobs will be lost in the

coal industry during the next 20 or more years. Obama and liberals don't

care about the loss of those millions of jobs.

Yeah, it will be worse than all those jobs that were lost pulling out asbestos when the government stuck their nose into private industry's business. Damn communists.


John Doe wrote:

rL somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:


spending a very suspicious amount of time in private with two

sisters -- much to the dismay of the 12 Disciples.


That is bullshit. There is nothing in the Bible that remotely

suggests Jesus had any sort of sexual relationship, or even that

he spent time in private (out of plain sight) with a woman.



On the contrary, it is written (John 8:9) And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

Went "out" means they were indoors. Specifically, the temple.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Mar-31 09:09, linuxgal wrote: >

Linux has gurus.

Mac has evangelists.

Windows has penitents.


What does DOS have?


Gamers. DOS bypasses the Windows API calls for throwing shit on the screen, so it's faster than snot.


John Doe wrote:

linuxgal <linuxgal cleanposts.com wrote:


That is bullshit. There is nothing in the Bible that remotely

suggests Jesus had any sort of sexual relationship, or even

that he spent time in private (out of plain sight) with a

woman. > >

On the contrary, it is written (John 8:9) And they which heard

it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by

one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was

left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.


That does not remotely suggest that Jesus had a sexual

relationship. And that's your only example. That is a pathetic

excuse for suggesting that Jesus spent time in private with a

woman or had sexual relations.


I didn't suggest that he had a sexual relationship, only that you were in error to assert that Jesus was never alone with a woman out of plain sight.


duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:14:57 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

No, it IS correct. I waste my time preparing an answer and you just say "that's

not evidence". When you are prepared to explain your support for why there is

no God, then I can then say "that's not support". A discussion is meaningless

unless you are prepared to meet me half way.


There is an invisible elf green named Kazoo who rides on my shoulder. A

discussion about his existence is meaningless unless you are prepared to

meet me half way.


I don't BELIEVE in an invisible elf green named kazoo. Can you provide evidence

for one, which I can then just proclaim "that's not evidence".


That's not how mocking works. I'm the mocker, you're the mockee. You don't get to flip my mocks around and mock right back with the same technique, because that means you didn't understand that your first claim was properly mocked.


duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:42:33 -0400, ThomMadura <Tommadura@optonline.net wrote:


On 3/31/2012 7:46 AM, Andrew wrote:

"Les Hellawell" wrote in message news:n6jdn7t912k345jqr45j83quuupm42n43t@4ax.com... "Andrew" wrote: > > "For myself, faith begins with a realization that > a supreme intelligence brought the universe into > being and created man. It is not difficult for me > to have this faith, for it is incontrovertible that > where there is a plan, there is intelligence, an > orderly, unfolding universe testifies to the truth > of the most majestic statement ever uttered.. >

           'in the beginning God.' "

>> >

          ~ Dr. Arthur H. Compton,

>

             Nobel laureate in physics

How uninteresting, somebodies elese relgious

beliefs

Perhaps the truth thereof makes you uncomfortable,

because it is incontrovertible.


WHEN YOU can prove that there can be morning and evening on earth - with

the earth being stationary and UNMOVABLE in the sky - and the sun NOT

having been created yet - by all means POST THAT PROOF


Earth, what earth. Gen 1 doesn't talk about the earth and sol.


On the contrary, it is written (Gen 1:10) And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

In another place it is written (Gen 1:16-17) And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth.



duke wrote:


13.7 billion years is an eternity for most of us.


Not for me, I missed most of it.


ThomMadura wrote:


So - when confronted with that many choices - the first thing an

intelligent person does it look to see if the PERFECT UNERRING god - is

claimed to said anything that CANNOT BE TRUE - in reality.


Well - one cannot get past the very first page of the bible to see a

bunch of those.

I would say the first big error was that God created every animal to be a vegetarian.

Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.


Free Lunch wrote:


Funny how the author of this passage never noticed that the moon is

around during the day as much as it is during the night. Of course the

moon is not a light, but a reflecting body, but I wouldn't expect the

priest to know that.

They go on to assert that the Moon produces photosynthesis:

DEUT 33:13-14 Blessed of the LORD be his land, for the precious things of heaven, for the dew, and for the deep that coucheth beneath, and for the precious fruits brought forth by the sun, and for the precious things put forth by the moon.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Mar-31 09:11, linuxgal wrote: duke wrote:

On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 05:23:00 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > duke wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:13:49 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: >> > You can posit an eternal universe, or an eternal God who then > creates the universe later. Atheists just cut out the middle man. > No such evidence.

Occam's Razor. Thou Shalt Not Multiply Entities Needlessly. >

The simple answer goes to the evidence. > >

It works like this: If you are presented with two sequences of events,

the shorter one is true: >

1. I had a headache.

2. I prayed to God

3. I took aspirin.

4. My headache went away. >

OR >

1. I had a headache.

2. I took aspirin.

3. My headache went away.


...and with enough time it could be even shorter without aspirin:


1. I had a headache.

2. My headache went away.


Shorter yet:

1. Duke is a headache.


John Doe wrote:

linuxgal <linuxgal cleanposts.com wrote:


John Doe wrote:

linuxgal <linuxgal cleanposts.com wrote: > > That is bullshit. There is nothing in the Bible that remotely > suggests Jesus had any sort of sexual relationship, or even > that he spent time in private (out of plain sight) with a > woman. >> >>

On the contrary, it is written (John 8:9) And they which heard

it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by

one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus

was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

That does not remotely suggest that Jesus had a sexual

relationship. And that's your only example. That is a pathetic

excuse for suggesting that Jesus spent time in private with a

woman or had sexual relations. >

I didn't suggest that he had a sexual relationship, only that

you were in error to assert that Jesus was never alone with a

woman


Obviously Jesus was not alone. The woman was there.

That's what "alone with a woman" means.


Someone to

remember/record the incident was there.

John Boanerges didn't write a biography of Jesus, that was reserved to the Synoptics. His gospel was written in the 90s CE as a theological treatise, mainly to emphasize the deity of Christ against gnostic claims otherwise. So the crap he wrote was largely pulled out of his ass. For one thing, there's no way he was anywhere near the crucifixion. The women followers of Jesus were allowed to watch "from a distance" but the Romans wouldn't let any male follower near the execution site, and they were all denying they even knew Jesus anyway so they wouldn't be arrested too.



raven1 wrote:


I'm reminded of the observation that the New Testament contains

teachings that are original and good. Unfortunately, the ones that are

good are not original, and the ones that are original are not good.

This teaching must be original, because it ain't good:

2 Thessalonians 2:

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

God makes unbelievers not believe, then damns them.


HVAC wrote: On 3/30/2012 4:12 PM, Sir Gilligan Horry wrote: > >

A good honest UFO debunker.

You'll get an extra two suns and all those sun's planets

when we rule the Galaxy soon ! >

It will be a near impossible major task to find some planets without

life. But for you Mr HVAC we will scan Trillions of planets to find

the rare lifeless ones.



We have many examples of lifeless planets in our solar system.


So far, we have a good working hypotheses. If x is the number of planets, the number of planets with no life is x-1.


Andrew wrote:

"Budikka666" wrote in message news:jl7ik1$21k$2@dont-email.me...


http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/03/

why_is_there_something_instead.php >

Budikka


When you consider our vast universe in light of the first law of

Thermodynamics, then you begin to see that there has to be an

omnipotent God, who is greater than the universe and who has

awesome creative powers.


>

The law applies to closed systems, so how do you use the law to derive the existence of something outside of that system? Or are you just tossing fancy words around because they sound cool?


Free Lunch wrote:


Only in this system. The evidence is being gathered about planets that

shows that there are a large number of planets of a Goldilocks size in a

Goldilocks zone. There's no reason to think that many will be without

life.

As recently as the 20th Century scientists took the default position that life was on Mars, that's why so many astronomers "saw" artificial canals there. We've just moved the same wishful thinking out a few light years. How about we get evidence of actual extraterrestrial life before celebrating?


Free Lunch wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:54:47 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>

wrote in alt.talk.creationism:


"David Canzi" wrote in message news:jl79ll$pum$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca... Andrew wrote:

"For myself, faith

Faith and incontrovertibility are mutually contradictory.

Faith may be based on incontrovertible evidence.


If I have evidence, I have no use for faith. Faith is believing

something that is completely unsupported by any facts.

I like Mark Twain's definition, that faith is believing in things you know ain't so.


ThomMadura wrote:


Last year - duke posted something that indicated that he really did not

know where the mechanics of Human procreation.


That's not surprising, since he gets all his teachings in that area from ostensibly celibate Roman Catholic priests.


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:15:38 -0500, Dakota <markp@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote: >

The Republican objection to the health care mandate is that Obama is in

favor of it. There was a time when they supported it.


Heck, it's Romney's scheme in the first place, from when he was

governor of Massachusetts.

How many Democrats rejected Medicare Part D because Dubya was pushing it? Oh yeah, almost all of them.



Andrew wrote:


A blueprint is a detailed plan, and there is no plan

without an intelligent agent who made such *plan*.


This fact is incontrovertible.


Or in other words, unfalsifiable. That's why we say ID is unscientific.



ThomMadura wrote:


Over the last few years - duke has proclaimed often that he has 100%

evidence of the existence of his god

Well, it must be like the 100% evidence for Noah's Ark, Bigfoot, flying saucers, and the telegram where Bobby Kennedy orders the hit on Norma Jean Baker. He can't reveal it to us right now because it would result in too much social shock and disorientation.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:



"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote in message

news:vmvdn7tvag1g604dvl8j8plmpuddevtcs1@4ax.com... >

She is the mother of the Son of God, who is himself God.


She is not literally His mother, and He is not literally His father.

It's a parable. He actually implanted an egg He created into Mary. She

was not the biological father of Jesus, Jesus was.

Kind of like Heinlein's novel "To Sail Beyond the Sunset" when Lazarus Long travels to the era of the Great War and becomes his own daddy.


Free Lunch wrote:


I certainly want scientists to wait until they have evidence before they

make claims, but the evidence we have to date implies that there is life

elsewhere in the universe and that it would be foolish to assume

otherwise.

It's already too late, ever since 1925 with that boxing match blow-by-blow over the radio we've been broadcasting "We Are Here" to every Borg Cube and Klingon Battlecruiser out there.


sbalneav wrote: In alt.atheism Hannele <hannele@lycos.nl wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 00:31:36 +0200, sbalneav <sbalneav@alburg.net wrote: >

In alt.atheism Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess <goddess@fidemturbare.com wrote: On 2012-Mar-29 12:19, linuxgal wrote: sbalneav wrote: >> > Tautology. "In the book about our thing, we selected the things that > were > about our thing". Well, yeah. That's obvious. > Redundant book title: Windows For Dummies

"Unix made easy" could also be a funny title.

As a Unix/Linux admin, I take umbrage with that :)

You take umbrage with that title because Unix can't be made easy? ;)


"Unix is very user friendly. It's just picky about who its friends with."

Most people just can't come to greps with it.


Dakota wrote: On 3/31/2012 11:14 PM, Truth and honesty wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:01:22 -0300, John Manning wrote: >

FILE UNDER: G.W. Bush *Conspicuously Absent* from GOP Presidential Race

- I Can't Imagine Why, Can You? >

This is to be expected as Bush and other old presidents will come in once

the Republican convention decides on a candidate. >


The first President Bush has endorsed Romney. The reason Bush II hasn't

been seen is that he's toxic.

It's touching that liberals are thinking about Dubya and want him back in the limelight though.


{:-]))) wrote: linuxgal wrote: {:-]))) wrote:

>

Well, there was that Jesus fellow. >

Master Je Tzu, we call him in my circles.


What's your take on crop circles?


I'm curious about opinions others have.

I'm easy to dupe, being an idiot and all.

Seems to me they could be real in ways.


They're a practical joke started by a couple of drunks in Old Blighty. The funny thing is, they've come out and admitted it, and showed the little contraption they use to beat down the circles, but true believers won't let it go. They're a lot like Young Earth Creationists in this way.


duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:36:16 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:


• He did research there to write "Vicars of Christ".


Vicars of Christ has nothing to do with the Inquisition except in individual

cases.


The pain in Spain falls mainly with the cane.


duke wrote:


All violations of the 10 commandments are categorized in the lie.


For the sake of your immortal soul I hope you realize that there's a commandment that says REMEMBER the Sabbath and keep it holy, and do no work on that day. It's Saturday. If you think it's Sunday, you're believing a lie.


duke wrote:

>

• To a nubile 17-yr old with anti-gravity mammaries, the Vow of Celibacy

stands little chance.


The devil in drag??


He's just a sweet transvestite from Transsexual, Transylvania.



duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:19:42 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: >

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia

As with sexual preference in general, it is not known what causes someone to

prefer a pubescent rather than an adult individual for sexual reasons.

I agree, but your Roman Curia seems to "know" it's caused by homosexuality, which is my point.


Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the Vatican's secretary of state, made the

comments during a news conference Monday in Chile, where one of the

church's highest-profile pedophile cases involves a priest having sex

with young girls. >

"Many psychologists and psychiatrists have demonstrated that there is no

relation between celibacy and pedophilia. But many others have

demonstrated, I have been told recently, that there is a relation

between homosexuality and pedophilia. That is true," said Bertone. "That

is the problem."


Thank you for playing, Duke, please drive through.


You're welcome. At our next session, we'll tackle hebephilia.


Take it up with your clergy.


duke wrote:


I had a black cat cross my path leaving Church yesterday. I was a nervous wreck

for over 2 hours.


That's what happens when you get a weekly megaboost of superstition like that.


duke wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:29:42 -0700, "Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess" <goddess@fidemturbare.com wrote:


On 2012-Mar-31 09:22, linuxgal wrote: duke wrote: >

The Vatican doesn't own that land. The grounds and structure of my Church

parish is owned by the Parish as a taxable entity. Each individual

parish is its own separate public juridic person.

And what happens when a parish priest sells his church overflow parking

lot to the city to become a softball field? He gets sacked by the

bishop. And what happens if the bishop doesn't sack him? He gets

recalled to the Vatican for a butt reaming.


The lucky ones merely get ex-communicated.


Excommunication is easy to remedy in a good repentant confession.


Exactly. All they have to do is confess that they were wrong to assume the Vatican did not own the land, and all is forgiven.


duke wrote:


http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=20357

HUNTINGTON, Ind. (Our Sunday Visitor) ? Who owns your local parish: The members

of the parish or your bishop? According to the Catholic Church (and its canon

laws dating back a millennium or so), the answer is the parishioners.


Yes, that's called a firewall. Michael Corleone used similar buffers in Godfather II. But when the Vatican wanted to remodel St. Thomas from old school to "in the round" we had no say in the matter.


Alex W. wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 22:41:02 -0800, Jason wrote:


I don't want America to ever become a third world nation. Do you?


When it comes to soial services, medical services and

infrastructure, you already are a third-world nation.

Sure, that's why they keep trying to sneak in.


NoBody wrote:


Got ya -- do it my way or get shut down. Watch what you ask for you

may just get it if orphanges, Catholic schools and hospitals shut

down. You think there's suffering now....


And the Church would do it, too, just to make a theological point.


HVAC wrote:


I'm pathetic enough to know that nothing can travel faster than

light in our universe. Anyone that says differently can take the

same exit as the Director of OPERA in Italy.


Two photons emerge from a beam-splitter in Denver. One of them is right-hand circular polarized (the electric and magnetic fields twist 360 degrees to the right once per cycle), the other one twists left, but no one knows which is which. They are allowed to fly apart down separate fiber optic cables, one to Richland, Washington, the other to Oak Ridge, Tennesee. In Richland, the photon is measured to have a left-hand polarization. This observation instantly (faster than is possible by the speed limit c) causes the wavefunction of the photon in the national laboratory in Tennessee to resolve as a Southpaw.

Action at a distance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_paradox



HVAC wrote: On 3/31/2012 8:26 PM, Antares 531 wrote: > >

"There are over 200,000 galaxies filling this image !!! >

As the Bible says, "In my Father's house are many mansions...."


The Harry Potter stories tell of flying via broom.


PS- Jesus prattled on about giving away all worldly goods

and the difficulties of a rich man attaining heaven like

a camel through the eye of a needle...So what's up with the

mansion?

And these mansions all have to fit inside a house, which makes me suspect they are about as impressive as the "forts" we used to build out of our bunk beds.



duke wrote:


Big mistake there. Honor is given to us by the one and only almighty God. You

may not accept God's presence, but if you have honor, you are responding

positively to our God who calls us to love one another as he loves us.

That explains why Duke slanders Obama by claiming that he "admitted in an interview that he was of the muslim faith".



• R. L. Measures. wrote:


• Here in California we get to vote on California Supreme Court

appointees. I think we should be able to do the same thing nationally.

Justice Scalia needs to go since he goes more by the Republican Party

platform than he goes by the Constitution.


<eyeroll>But Ginsburg, Sotomayor, Kagan, and Breyer are just moderates like most Americans who never legislate from the bench.</eyeroll>


Jeanne Douglas wrote:


The old white guys who run the Mormon Church were indeed under pressure

from the government. But, miracle of miracles, they got a "sign from

god" that told them to change that policy.

But still to this day, blacks for Brigham Young is a lot like chickens for Colonel Sanders.


Jason wrote:



Not true. If they claim that mankind evolved from an ape-like creature--it

has not been proved to be true.



We didn't evolve FROM ape-like creatures, we ARE ape-like creatures.


Jason wrote:


Please don't post what the Mormons state about Cain. I seem to recall (and

could be wrong) that the Mormons believe Cain's descendants were cursed by

God and as a result they became black people. For many years, they would

not allow black people to rise in ranks within the church. The gov't

forced them to change that policy.


Book of Mormon

Alma 3

[6] And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob, and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.

[7] And their brethren sought to destroy them, therefore they were cursed; and the Lord God set a mark upon them, yea, upon Laman and Lemuel, and also the sons of Ishmael, and Ishmaelitish women.

[8] And this was done that their seed might be distinguished from the seed of their brethren, that thereby the Lord God might preserve his people, that they might not mix and believe in incorrect traditions which would prove their destruction.

[9] And it came to pass that whosoever did mingle his seed with that of the Lamanites did bring the same curse upon his seed.


Free Lunch wrote:

On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 02:01:32 -0400, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net wrote

in alt.talk.creationism: >

A drag queen named Harris Glen Milstead, who worked as an actor under

the name 'Divine', did indeed exist. But I don't think anyone

worshipped him. <G> >

John Waters?

His movies are dog poop.


Jason wrote:


If he wins, I hope he pays for all of his vacations. If so, that would

save the tax payers millions of dollars per year.

America would save a lot of money if Barack and Michelle and their two rugrats were on vacation 24/7/265.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote:


Actually, the evidence for flying saucers tends to be more credible than

evidence for deities or supernatural agents, despite the blurry and

vague nature of the evidence presented for flying saucers. >

In 1946 Kenneth Arnold, looking for a downed Marine transport plane, saw nine bright meteoroids flying between Mt. Rainier and Mt. Adams at supersonic speeds, and they were rotating, and their irregular shape made them hop up and down in the airstream. After he landed he told some reporters they were skipping like saucers thrown over water. He was describing their motion, not their shape. This got garbled in transmission. Immediately after that, and forever after, people "saw" flying saucers. Thus it was with the cargo cult in Mad Max III. Thus it was with all major religions.



duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:40:25 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


John Doe wrote:

linuxgal <linuxgal cleanposts.com wrote: >

John Doe wrote: > linuxgal <linuxgal cleanposts.com wrote: >> > That is bullshit. There is nothing in the Bible that remotely > suggests Jesus had any sort of sexual relationship, or even > that he spent time in private (out of plain sight) with a > woman. >> >> > On the contrary, it is written (John 8:9) And they which heard > it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by > one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus > was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. > That does not remotely suggest that Jesus had a sexual > relationship. And that's your only example. That is a pathetic > excuse for suggesting that Jesus spent time in private with a > woman or had sexual relations. >>

I didn't suggest that he had a sexual relationship, only that

you were in error to assert that Jesus was never alone with a

woman

Obviously Jesus was not alone. The woman was there.

That's what "alone with a woman" means.


There were always plenty of people around.


That's a tradition of men. The text says Jesus was left alone with the woman in the temple. Are you going to believe the bible or your own lying assumptions?


HVAC wrote: On 4/1/2012 9:10 AM, linuxgal wrote: > >

Two photons emerge from a beam-splitter in Denver. One of them is

right-hand circular polarized (the electric and magnetic fields twist

360 degrees to the right once per cycle), the other one twists left, but

no one knows which is which. They are allowed to fly apart down separate

fiber optic cables, one to Richland, Washington, the other to Oak Ridge,

Tennesee. In Richland, the photon is measured to have a left-hand

polarization. This observation instantly (faster than is possible by the

speed limit c) causes the wavefunction of the photon in the national

laboratory in Tennessee to resolve as a Southpaw. >

Action at a distance.


Ya....Maybe not so spooky though.

There is zero experimental evidence for this theoretical 'action'.



Not only have the experiments been done, but it has commercial applications in the field of cryptography. A third party taps into the data stream, it messes up the transfer. At a distance, faster than light.

WP:

There are currently four companies offering commercial quantum key distribution systems; id Quantique (Geneva), MagiQ Technologies (New York), SmartQuantum (France) and QuintessenceLabs (Australia).


duke wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:50:23 +0000 (UTC), John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:


Calling Mary the "Mother of God" is totally perverse, it reeks of

corruption, and it's obviously not what Jesus intended.


Jesus is Son of God and Mary is his mother. Luke says that. You figure it out.


Great trick, duke, let me try it.

Laura Dern is the the daughter of Bruce Dern, and Diane Ladd is her mother, therefore Bruce Dern is the Father of Diane Ladd!


duke wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 05:50:29 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

I had a black cat cross my path leaving Church yesterday. I was a nervous wreck

for over 2 hours. >

That's what happens when you get a weekly megaboost of superstition like

that.


Hey, I'm only human. They didn't kill all those black cats for nothing.


Yes they did. For nothing. They believed those cats were "familiar spirits". And they dishonored the Creator by killing them.


duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 06:09:12 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Really? They were already forty years behind the original schedule and

the iron chariot things just exacerbated things.


No, they weren't late.

Yes they were. The original promise was like this:

And the LORD said, "I have surely seen the affliction of my people which are in Egypt, and have heard their cry by reason of their taskmasters; for I know their sorrows; and I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey; unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites."

The people believed God, and packed their things on his promise, and left their old life behind.

Then God changed his mind and said, "I am altering the bargain, Calrissian. Pray I don't alter it any further."

And none of those people saw the land they were promised.


duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 06:14:03 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Well, Peter didn't even get to Rome until at least

the Sixties. Most of his time was spent in Antioch, Syria. And that

negates your "32 AD" claim,


No, it doesn't. He was given his commission in 32AD as the infallible deputy

administrator.


Infallible. That's why St. Paul had to tell him to shut the fuck up. In public.

Galatians 2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?


Dakota wrote:


It's more interesting that conservatives are pretending he never

existed. Putting W back in the news will remind people who screwed up

our nation's economy and image around the world.

Yeah, like Obama is real popular in Pock E Stonn and Asscrackistan right now.


duke wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 06:21:30 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: >

Big mistake there. Honor is given to us by the one and only almighty God. You

may not accept God's presence, but if you have honor, you are responding

positively to our God who calls us to love one another as he loves us.

That explains why Duke slanders Obama by claiming that he "admitted in

an interview that he was of the muslim faith".


He did. It was an interview videotaped and played on the news. I saw it for

myself. The interviewer had to correct him when he said it.


Well I recently posted that a year has 265 days. People have brain farts. You take people's brain farts and run with them.


Jahbulon wrote:

"Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess"

<goddess@fidemturbare.com wrote in

news:JNRdr.14251$FA4.10419@newsfe03.iad:


What evidence is there,

apart from the bible,

that Jesus actually existed?

Book of Moron.

Many people have told me that's Zaboor-ing one.


Book of Mormon is not a witness to Jesus Christ apart from The Bible

because it says the same as The Bible.

Naw, it says different things than the Bible. Jesus is an ass-kicker rather than the Prince of Peace in the BOM.

The city of Zarahemla caught on fire.

The city of Moroni sank into the sea.

A volcano erupted inside the city of Moronihah until the city was covered by a great mountain.

Earthquakes leveled many other cities. Tornadoes carried many people away to parts unknown. Boulders were cracked in two. Roads were broken up, buildings toppled, and many people were killed.

All of these things happened in the space of three hours.

Then it was dark for three days, and no candle nor torch could be kindled to shed light. There was no sun nor moon nor stars.

Then a great voice was heard in the darkness taking credit for burning Zarahemla and drowning Moroni and covering Moronihah with earth to hide their iniquities from his face. He also mentioned causing the city of Gilgal to be swallowed up by the earth and a number of other cities to be covered by water. Other towns he destroyed with fire from heaven like Sodom and Gomorrah.

Everyone who was still alive, he said, was spared because they were more righteous than those cities. He asks if they will come to him and be blessed.

This is kind of like the Terminator killing everone in the police station, but leaving one or two cops alive and then saying, "Won't you be my friend?"


Free Lunch wrote:


Why not? The fact that life exists here is very strong evidence that

life of some sort will exist elsewhere to everyone who doesn't think

that God treated earth as a unique situation.

It's evidence that life exists here, that's all. If we measure methane in an oxidizing atmosphere around another planet, that's evidence of cow farts there. Sorry to pop your bubble, but that's how science works.


Free Lunch wrote:

On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 18:08:35 +0200, MelissA <melis@a.com wrote in

alt.atheism:


On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 11:43:11 -0400 HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote: > >

What evidence is there for life outside of Earth?

None.


Direct evidence? None. Indirect? The existence of life on earth.

That's like saying, I have a bloody glove in Seattle, that's indirect evidence that OJ killed Nicole Brown Simpson in LA.


HVAC wrote: On 3/31/2012 4:12 PM, linuxgal wrote: > >

We have many examples of lifeless planets in our solar system. > >

So far, we have a good working hypotheses. If x is the number of

planets, the number of planets with no life is x-1.


Put in another way, out of the possible trillions of planets in our

galaxy, we know of only one that has life.


When evidence comes in of extraterrestrial life, we'll have a big worldwide party. Until then, all such claims remain in the realm of the paranormal.


Jeff M wrote:


Ironically, racism is part of the human condition,

and something we all have in common, regardless of our own race.


Being politically correct means always having to say you're sorry.


duke wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 05:46:50 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:19:42 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > duke wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia

As with sexual preference in general, it is not known what causes someone to

prefer a pubescent rather than an adult individual for sexual reasons.

I agree, but your Roman Curia seems to "know" it's caused by

homosexuality, which is my point.


How does homosexuality **CAUSE** pedophilia as opposed to pedophilia being a

sick side track?

I don't know, Duke. Take it up with the number two guy at the Vatican who says pedophilia is caused by homosexuality, as cited in earlier posts.


duke wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:16:38 -0700, "Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess" <goddess@fidemturbare.com wrote:


On 2012-Mar-31 15:03, linuxgal wrote: ThomMadura wrote: >

Over the last few years - duke has proclaimed often that he has 100%

evidence of the existence of his god

Well, it must be like the 100% evidence for Noah's Ark, Bigfoot, flying

saucers, and the telegram where Bobby Kennedy orders the hit on Norma

Jean Baker. He can't reveal it to us right now because it would result

in too much social shock and disorientation.

Actually, the evidence for flying saucers tends to be more credible than

evidence for deities or supernatural agents, despite the blurry and

vague nature of the evidence presented for flying saucers.


NOt hardly. We see the universe willed into existence by God. We've never seen

a flying saucer, except at somebody's head by the old lady.

We watched Forbidden Planet last night, there was a flying saucer in that film.


duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:12:59 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


You provide no support for there being no descent with variation. Your

claims of the intervention of a deity are dismissed automatically.


That's ok with me. It's your funeral, not mine.


Mortality rate for non-believers: 100 %

Mortality rate for believers: 100%


duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:54:31 -0400, ThomMadura <Tommadura@optonline.net wrote:


On 3/31/2012 1:56 PM, duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:14:57 -0800, linuxgal<linuxgal@cleanposts.com

wrote:

> duke wrote: > No, it IS correct. I waste my time preparing an answer and you just say "that's > not evidence". When you are prepared to explain your support for why there is > no God, then I can then say "that's not support". A discussion is meaningless > unless you are prepared to meet me half way.

There is an invisible elf green named Kazoo who rides on my shoulder. A

discussion about his existence is meaningless unless you are prepared to

meet me half way.

I don't BELIEVE in an invisible elf green named kazoo.

So then YOU admit you are an ATHEKAZOOIST then!


I don't know. I've never seen one. But linuxgal says she has one on her

shoulder.


When you are prepared to explain your support for why there is no Kazoo, then I can say "that's not support".


duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:22:22 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us wrote:


Duke has made it clear that he knows that he does not have any evidence

at all to support his special religious claims


Au contraire. God willed the universe into existence 13.7 billion years ago.


I have a competing theory with exactly the same level of support. Advanced but non-divine life forms (or possibly their independent machines) in a previous universe engineered this new universe 13.7 billion years ago because their own universe had reached heat death.


duke wrote:

>

Better - I did not read Duke's comments and never god a headache!


But now Good is condemning you to hell.


My Goodness!


• R. L. Measures. wrote:

In article <-_adnRg5vZjpxeXSnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


• R. L. Measures. wrote: >

• Here in California we get to vote on California Supreme Court

appointees. I think we should be able to do the same thing nationally.

Justice Scalia needs to go since he goes more by the Republican Party

platform than he goes by the Constitution. >

<eyeroll>But Ginsburg, Sotomayor, Kagan, and Breyer are just moderates

like most Americans who never legislate from the bench.</eyeroll>


• If they don't make agenda-based decisions they will likely be approved

by the electorate.


The Constitution does not say the judges need to make their decisions in such a way that they are approved by the electorate.


Xavier Onnasis wrote:

>

yes, this really is amazing, isn't it...because scientists throughout

the world recognize that the world is warming as a direct result of

human activity...

Which paper did you read that asserts the eleven year solar cycle and the effects of the thirty year Pacific Decadal Oscillation are secondary to human causes?


Jason wrote:


You are 100% incorrect. There was a story in the newspaper last week

indicating that he wants the family members of legal immigrants to become

legal immigrants.


This is how they can do it. Go home, and apply at the US embassy in their home country for a visa.



Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Apr-01 17:17, linuxgal wrote:

>

The Constitution does not say the judges need to make their decisions in

such a way that they are approved by the electorate.


...but it is certainly implied for those judges who are elected. >

Then you see the scope of the problem in the case of the SCOTUS. It will require an amendment to the Constitution removing this power from the President and Senate.



Barry OGrady wrote:


There are good, objective, secular grounds why homosexuals can't

fulfill the obligations of being a parent.


If you're thinking breast-feeding, I would answer that lesbians are homosexuals too.


ThomMadura wrote: On 4/1/2012 3:14 PM, duke wrote:

>

>

I can do anything I want to.


YOU can only do what is possible for you to do.

And posting proof of a deity is not possible for him to do.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Apr-01 08:35, linuxgal wrote: >

Well I recently posted that a year has 265 days. People have brain

farts. You take people's brain farts and run with them.


Ha ha! I just assumed you made a typo regarding Venus which has 225

days in a year.


225 earth days maybe. 117 Venus days, retrograde, from noon to noon.


duke wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 12:44:39 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


I have a competing theory with exactly the same level of support.

Advanced but non-divine life forms (or possibly their independent

machines) in a previous universe engineered this new universe 13.7

billion years ago because their own universe had reached heat death.


Except that there was no previous universe because there was nothing before -

creation a simple and sudden appearance of something from nothingness into

nothingness.


What is your evidence there were no universes prior to 13.7 billion years ago?


Jason wrote:

In article <-_adnRo5vZjXxOXSnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote: >

Not true. If they claim that mankind evolved from an ape-like creature--it

has not been proved to be true. > >

We didn't evolve FROM ape-like creatures, we ARE ape-like creatures.



That may apply to you but not to me or the members of my family or any of

my relatives.


You should be proud of our family line, we're at the top of the food chain.


duke wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 12:38:52 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:12:59 -0800, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: >

You provide no support for there being no descent with variation. Your

claims of the intervention of a deity are dismissed automatically.

That's ok with me. It's your funeral, not mine.


Mortality rate for non-believers: 100 %

Mortality rate for believers: 100%


Exactly:

A home in hell - right at 100% for nonbelievers.

A home in heaven - >90% for believers. >

Anyone who believes in a theology where a supernatural being tortures people with infinite aqony for an infinite time who, according to the evidence of their senses that entity allegedly created, came to the conclusion that the universe operates perfectly well without the action of a conscious agent....deserves it.


Jason wrote:


I have seen all of them--including the last one. The writers of those

movies seemed to believe that humans evolved from apes. It's also possible

that they believed that humans were a species of apes.


Humans are a species of ape.

Put twelve fundies in a concrete box behind glass, sans clothes, and they will screech unintelligibly about "gays" and "Jesus" and throw shit at each other.



duke wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:14:31 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 05:50:29 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > duke wrote: > I had a black cat cross my path leaving Church yesterday. I was a nervous wreck > for over 2 hours. >>

That's what happens when you get a weekly megaboost of superstition like

that.

Hey, I'm only human. They didn't kill all those black cats for nothing.


Yes they did. For nothing. They believed those cats were "familiar

spirits". And they dishonored the Creator by killing them.


Let's see. You're getting very close to zero purpose in discussion now.


I will consider that a plonk, Duke. And consider yourself plonked back.



Mulligan wrote: On Apr 2, 11:01 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br wrote:


There will be no nuclear war.


Because you typed it onto suenet?

Sue Net was when we had Steve Winter.


raven1 wrote:

On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 10:08:53 -0400, Witziges Rätsel <zer@roer.invalid.com wrote:


On 4/2/2012 9:43 AM, GSI wrote: >

- what about Iran and

Nobody knows for sure whether Iran has nuclear weapons.


Who claims that they do?

The ones that wanna send Americans to war. Same lies as with Saddam's WMDs, different decade.


Mulligan wrote:

>

Under NATO nuclear weapons sharing, the United States has provided

nuclear weapons for Belgium,[41] Germany,[41] Italy, the Netherlands,

[41] and Turkey[41] to deploy and store.[42] This involves pilots and

other staff of the "non-nuclear" NATO states practicing, handling, and

delivering the U.S. nuclear bombs, and adapting non-U.S. warplanes to

deliver U.S. nuclear bombs. U.S. nuclear weapons were also deployed in

Canada until 1984, South Korea until 1991, and in Greece until 2001

for nuclear sharing purposes

Pakistan has the same arrangement with Saudi Arabia, the instant Iran nukes up.


Jim Austin wrote: On Mar 30, 11:18 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br wrote:


<Snip>


It's the dumbing down of America, brought to you by our good friends,

the conservatives:


Since public education is totally under control of the liberal

contingent, the dumbing down of America, where a good chunk of high

school graduates are unable to read their own diplomas, can't be

blamed on conservatives.

You tell it, Jim. Speak truth to power! Students are also coming out of high school these days believing the Earth is 4.56 billion years old and a whole bunch of other unbiblical stuff the godless monkey-huggers are teaching them.


BroilJAB wrote:

Al Einstein acknowledged a Creator.

Fallacy of argument from authority.


Warhol wrote: On Apr 3, 12:39 am, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...@btinternet.com wrote: >

Why would something weigh nothing because it is in a vacuum?


Vacuum of space(heaven)... in free fall you are weightless...


So the Pringles inside a vacuum-packed can should be floating. Cool.


Mitchell Holman wrote:


 I pointed out to him long ago that some whales 

are born with legs and feet, proving their land

ancestry. He disappeared.


If this was a call-in radio show, you'd hear: Click! (Dial Tone)



John Baker wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 05:42:53 -0700 (PDT), Ray Fischer Buggers Little Boys <RayFischerFuksLittleBoys@yahoo.com wrote:


Whoops! Obozo Has The Worst Week Of His Presiduncey!

Maybe The Worst Week In History


Not unless you can magically erase eight years of Dubya.


I dunno, I think his worst week was insulting the Supreme Court in the State of the Union Address when he had his signature legislation coming in front of it.


Brad Guth wrote:


How many photons does it take to create an electron?

One photon with a frequency that corresponds to the rest mass of an electron (500,000 electron volts) by the famous mass-energy equivalence formula.


BroilJAB wrote:

Lincoln's plan: Deport all Blacks back.

How do you deport someone who is born here? Where do they go?


BroilJAB wrote:

Trayvon was FRAMED.

So was OJ.

Humpty Dumpty was pushed!


BroilJAB wrote:

Evolutionism taught at one time that

man 'has 180 vestigial organs'. LOL

In your case, the frontal lobe is one of the 180.


BroilJAB wrote:

If you would enter into Life,

KEEP the Commandments.

"Take up your cross and follow Me."

Which is it?


Waldo Tunnel wrote: On Mar 30, 3:33 pm, US4ZION <us4z...@gmail.com wrote:


Ps 53:1 "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God."


So if even a fool knows it, how stupid does that make you?

RIMSHOT::


David Fritzinger wrote: >

Elect a Republican president along with a Republican Congress and you

will complete the transformation of the US to a third world country.

After all, they don't want to spend any money on research,

infrastructure, or anything else that will improve the future of the

country.

How about letting people keep more of their own money? That's a brighter future right there.


JTEM wrote:


Of course, you being a moron, you'll say ANYTHING that

promotes Obama and the neo-con agenda.


Obama a neo-con, that's rich.


Mitchell Holman wrote:

Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in


They have stopped many of his proposals from becoming laws.



   What proposals?


A new agency to man road blocks on the interstate to check tire pressure and write tickets.


HVAC wrote: On 4/2/2012 8:23 AM, W.T.S. wrote: > >

Why? Why not just pay the mom 500 bucks to get an abortion? >

That's the last choice - the worst of all.

No, aborting a fetus is a noble thing, the Mother should be rewarded as

a living Saint! >

So much simpler. And we have lots of uses for aborted fetuses.

Yes, medical research comes to mind.



Have you seen any of the stories lately regarding hamburger

and 'pink slime'?

Back in the seventies we used to have green slime in these little plastic garbage cans. Tasted like soap. I liked pop rocks better. I had myself some pet pop rocks.


HVAC wrote: On 4/2/2012 2:53 PM, Warhol wrote: > > >

According to the Talmud, under “nine years and one day,” the “first

stage of intercourse” of a boy with the mother, or any grown woman, is

harmless.



That is mother-fucking funny!



A little boy asks his dad, "What’s between mom’s legs?"

The father answers, "Paradise, my son."

The kid asks again, "What’s between your legs?"

The father replies, "The key to paradise"

The son says, "Piece of advice dad, change the lock, the neighbour has a duplicate key."


default wrote:

On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 04:02:58 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


duke wrote: >

Let's see. You're getting very close to zero purpose in discussion now. >

I will consider that a plonk, Duke. And consider yourself plonked back. >


Duke can't plonk anyone - it is just he and his ilk that talk to each

other these days.


I plonked him before Patrick.

What are you gonna do? Nice college boy, didn't want to get mixed up in the family business. Now you want to plonk a troll. Why? Because he slapped you in the face a little? What do you think this like the Army where you can shoot 'em from a mile away? No you gotta get up like this and, badda-bing, you blow their brains all over your nice Ivy League suit. C'mere.

[Kisses Default on the head]

You're taking this very personal. Tom, this is business and this man is taking it very, very personal.



Wretch Fossil wrote:

The Age of Earth Is Terribly Wrong.


The age of Earth is currently estimated at 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years

(ref. 1). That age is terribly wrong, as the real age of Earth is at

least 45.4 billion years.

Three times older than the hydrogen and helium that was cooked up in POP I stars to make the elements that comprise the earth. Cool.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote:


One of the requirements of proving UFOs is identifying them, and once a

UFO has been identified (e.g., bird, plane, helicopter, weather balloon,

fancy kite, etc.) it's ceases to be classifiable as a UFO.


Unfortunately, true believers insist on immediately identifying them as flying saucers driven by grays from Canopus. So we're really talking about IFOs.


chibiabos wrote:



Any teenie who can handle a compound bow is okay in my book.


It's so easy on Wii.


Free Lunch wrote:



Societies that work invest for the future. They don't know who will be

the beneficiaries, but they still do it because it is good. Letting

greed control eventually destroys a society.

"Greed is good." -- Adam Smith, paraphrased by way of Gordon Gecko channeling John Galt.


THE BORG wrote:

Men and women should be very aware of the huge differences

between them. They should be acutely aware of this.

Men do what men do and women do what women do, and never the

twain shall mix.


So you and your buddies say at the bathhouse.


Kulin wrote:


A three-judge panel for the 5th Circuit Court of

Appeals on Tuesday ordered the Justice Department to

explain by Thursday whether the administration

believes judges have the power to strike down a

federal law.




Professor Obama taught Constitutional law at Harvard, believe it or not.


Logan Sacket wrote:


There are many reasons the earth could be billions of

years old and yet stand the test of Bibilical theology. However, I

can't rule it out either way. All that you should worry about is that

God created it.

Why should I worry about that?


duke wrote:


I want to spend all eternity with God in heaven. You want to spend all eternity

in the fires of hell with satan. It's very clear.

Actually the fires are in heaven, in the very presence of the holy angels and the Lamb. To go to heaven is to be a spectator at an eternal torture chamber.

REV 14:10-11 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.


Jason wrote:


One example is canines--yes lots of evolution related to canines has taken

place--but there is no evidence that canines have evolved into creatures

that are not canines. This also applies to the whales that God created.


Jason, Baraminologist Extraordinaire.



thomas p. wrote:


Of course it is only a special right for homosexuals, for everyone else it

is a civil right.

Prior to 1967 it was a special right for blacks to marry whites.


Jason wrote:


Jews are God's chosen people.


They were unchosen, according to Jesus.

MATT 22:

[8] Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

[9] Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.



WangoTango wrote:

In article <x-idnWsSG8Mu0-fSnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,

linuxgal@cleanposts.com says... Warhol wrote: On Apr 3, 12:39 am, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...@btinternet.com wrote: >

Why would something weigh nothing because it is in a vacuum?

Vacuum of space(heaven)... in free fall you are weightless... >

So the Pringles inside a vacuum-packed can should be floating. Cool. >

How do you know they don't?

;)


We should lobby for a clear plastic can.


Jason wrote:


Guessing based on the fact that God created two perfect people.


Sure, so perfect they couldn't even follow simple instructions to stay the hell away from one of the trees in the garden.



Jason wrote:


The subject was Christian books--see above. The Christian book was related

to Mt. St. Helens.


I went to Mt. St. Helens and checked it out, Jason. There's no Christian stuff there.

http://www.cleanposts.com/images/thumb/0/09/DSC02327.JPG/800px-DSC02327.JPG


HVAC wrote: On 4/2/2012 4:54 PM, Bill Snyder wrote: > > >

All you dipshits using google are now history. >

Smell ya later...... >

On my news server, it looks like theathroom fixture of your

choice

just overflowed and dumped a ton of gg stuff on us.



Ya. Most kooks haven't a clue about setting up a newsreader.


Those using google had a back up of about 4 days, then the

shit hit the fan.


WE are the lucky recipients.


So instead of Eternal September, it's Eternal Monday.


<b>Alan Ferris wrote:

On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:49:43 +0200, Daniel Hoehr <daniel.hoehr@gmx.net wrote:


Am 31.03.2012 14:36, schrieb HVAC:

Duke, do you believe that people with painful, terminal

conditions should be allowed to end their own lives? >

No. Clearly not.


Why not?

There's a level of pain that will buy Duke.


duke wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 17:37:25 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


>

What is your evidence there were no universes prior to 13.7 billion

years ago?


Nobody can see that far back.


So with no way to falsify your claim, you claimed it.


Jason wrote:


The Bible does not state which types of whales that God created.


The Bible is confused on the whole topic. It has Jonah swallowed by a fish.

Jonah 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.



Barry OGrady wrote:

On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 09:48:54 +0200, "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote: >

Then having a popular vote on allowing Catholics, Jews, Lutherans,

left-handed people, bald people to adopt etc. would be fine?


Jews should not be allowed to adopt or marry..


That solution sounds Final.


Alex W. wrote:


The United States has 2% of the world's oil reserves. That is

TWO PER CENT. You CANNOT drill your way to cheap oil.

It sure as shit ain't getting any cheaper when you don't drill.


Dante wrote:

No one on Earth has been to Heaven before.

You will not go to Heaven until AFTER Judgement Day.


A Day is not really a Day, a Day is a "Time".


Better to refer to is as Judgement Time, rather than Judgement Day.



Better yet, refer to it as Judgment Time so your spell checker don't red-line it.


W.T.S. wrote:


Good point. Kansas isn't too hot on social welfare programs, housing

for the poor, health care, schools and so on. They do build a lot of

nice prisons, which will start of fill up nicely in about 18 years from

now. The families of wealthy girls will just go to New York. How nice.


Spent three weeks learning to program wire harness testers in KCMO but my hotel was in downtown Kansas City, Kansas. What a sad, blighted town that is. I'd never seen ghost malls before.


Jason wrote:

In article <XnsA02AD6F0431B9nomailcomcastnet@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net wrote:


   Funny he didn't lift a finger to help them

during the Holocaust. >



He left it up to people on the earth to deal with Hitler.


Wow, Jason, I guess you're right, there really is a God. I betcha his favorite song goes, "Take good care/Of my business/When I'm away/Every day!"

I chose a beautiful house on a two hundred foot bluff of glacial till overlooking Puget Sound and rented it out to some folks. Over the years erosion caused the bluff to unmine the foundation and now the house is sagging. My tenants keep begging me to jack up the house and reinforce the foundation with new concrete, but I left it up to the people in my house to deal with the erosion, because I included a "free will" clause in their lease.



Jason wrote:


I believe the information is in the Old Testament. God blessed Abraham,

Isaac, Jacob and Joseph--they were all Jews. I seem to recall reading that

Abraham is the ancestor of all Jews and Muslims.

In precisely the same way Paul Bunyan is the ancestor of all loggers.



Jason wrote:

In article tidnY2Nu95ONObSnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <b> <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote: >

The Bible does not state which types of whales that God created. >

The Bible is confused on the whole topic. It has Jonah swallowed by a fish. >

Jonah 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah.

And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.



That's correct.


Then again, not entirely unexpected. The Bible also calls bats birds, thinks rabbits chew the cud, and thinks insects have four legs.


Jason wrote:

In article tidnZGNu95vP-bSnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <b> <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote: >

The subject was Christian books--see above. The Christian book was related

to Mt. St. Helens. >

I went to Mt. St. Helens and checked it out, Jason. There's no

Christian stuff there. >

http://www.cleanposts.com/images/thumb/0/09/DSC02327.JPG/800px-DSC02327.JPG


LOL--You would need to read the book to find the location of that

Christian stuff that is there.


I read in a book that Mt. St. Helens started to form thirty thousand years before the biblically accepted date of Creation 6,000 years ago.



Jason wrote:

In article <9Mednf_iSPvvAubSnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote: >

Guessing based on the fact that God created two perfect people. >

Sure, so perfect they couldn't even follow simple instructions to stay

the hell away from one of the trees in the garden.


They had free will and it was easy for Satan to influence Eve since she

had no experence dealing with liars.

If she was a perfect person, God would have created her with built-in experience dealing with liars.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Apr-03 09:44, duke wrote:

On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 12:50:28 -0700, "Fidem Turbare, the non-existent >

So does that mean you support evolution now? >

Always have.


Does this not conflict with your belief in a deity?


What does man need with a Savior if there was no Fall? Evolution says man is experiencing a constant Rise.


Tom McDonald wrote:


To be fair, other than farm animals, who else was there with whom to be

fruitful, multiply and replenish the Earth?


God brought all the animals to Adam, but he didn't like any of them, so he broke down and made a woman.


Mulligan wrote:

For those of us who do, your lack of belief seems very strange.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/147887/americans-continue-believe-god.aspx


PRINCETON, NJ -- More than 9 in 10 Americans still say "yes" when

asked the basic question "Do you believe in God?";

For centuries most people believed the Earth was flat, didn't make it one iota flatter.


Uirgil wrote:

In article <e97pn7tlosalhh4fh1nkou78c4pl3rcjcb@4ax.com>,

duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net

wrote:


Bloomberg - While Republicans promote themselves

as the friendliest party for Wall Street, stock investors

do better when Democrats occupy the White House.

then why was it the highest ever when George Bush was President?


The market crashed while Bush was President,


just like when Hoover was President.


The two biggest crashes ever and both under Republican administrations.

This is a republic, I'm not "under" any Administration, Donk or Pub. They're our servants.


BroilJAB wrote:

Now Obama has put out a Murder Bounty

on a Moslem Cleric in a sovereign nation

that the US is not at war against.

On this day in 1968, Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated at a hotel in Memphis, Tenn. He was 39 years old.


John Manning wrote:



Despite Republicans' attempts to portray

President Obama as bad for Israel, 62 percent

of American Jewish voters want him to be reelected...

Dr. Josef Mengele could run for President and US Jews would vote for him, as long as he had a D after his name.


Religious Intolerance Exposed wrote:


Armed Islamist rebel groups in Syria supported by the Obama

administration and Western governments seeking to oust “President”

Bashir al-Assad are engaged in “ethnic cleansing” of Christians,

according to news reports and human rights organizations.

Normally this sort of news would make me upset, but the Christians are supporting Assad in Syria as he shoots and tortures protesters, so it's case of what goes around comes around.


Mulligan wrote: On Apr 4, 8:12 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Mulligan wrote:

For those of us who do, your lack of belief seems very strange.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/147887/americans-continue-believe-god.aspx

PRINCETON, NJ -- More than 9 in 10 Americans still say "yes" when

asked the basic question "Do you believe in God?";

For centuries most people believed the Earth was flat, didn't make it

one iota flatter.


We are talking about the current time period sir and this country and

it appears that the non believers will soon go the way of the dodo.


You on the wrong side of history on this one, chump

Now if I can only get you to believe I'm a Linux gal.


Jason wrote:

>

My answer--for the most part--since 1560. Perhaps some of the people that

could read Greek knew about the rapture prior to 1560.


Nope, pre-trib rapture was a product of dispensationalism, pulled out of JNB Darby's ass in 1830.



Free Lunch wrote:


But Republicans prefer the famously anti-religious Ayn Rand, so we can

ignore them when they claim to be Christian.

Lots of horrible things have been done to others in the name of a religion, in the name of freedom, democracy, communism, socialism, conservatism, liberalism, etc. Each are someone's religion, someone's "church." Ayn Rand had Objectivism and she ran it like any other cult.


Jason wrote:


When Satan told Eve that "you shall be as gods...." That was a lie.



What was false about it, since the serpent narrowed the godlike property he was talking about to merely knowing the difference between good and evil?


Jason wrote:


Satan probably would have tried lying to Adam if he was the first person

to visit the tree.


Would of, could of, should of, how about sticking to the text. Sola Scriptura and all that.


Jason wrote:


God does not program humans.


On the contrary, it is written (Romans 9:21) Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?




Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:



Christians still kill and persecute? Give me an example in the last 100

years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre



HVAC wrote:



Gravity began after the big bang.

Everything else, including time, as well.

If time began "after" the big bang, what were they using for time during the actual bang?


Tyler Dresden wrote:

In heaven we will be neither male or female and in the new birth, in

the new mind, we are not to consider ourselves as male or female in

Christ.


Karma karma karma chameleon.


duke wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 04:14:15 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Apr-03 09:44, duke wrote:

On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 12:50:28 -0700, "Fidem Turbare, the non-existent > > So does that mean you support evolution now?

Always have.

Does this not conflict with your belief in a deity?


What does man need with a Savior if there was no Fall? Evolution says

man is experiencing a constant Rise.


Who said there was no fall?

Christianity says Man started perfect and became pond scum. Evolution says we started pond scum and became Man.


duke wrote:

On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 22:00:00 -0700, "Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess" <goddess@fidemturbare.com wrote:

>

That's not light -- it's an illusion.


God is the light.

In the beginning man said, "Let there be God."


duke wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:58:28 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us wrote:


Says people with an agenda to control others. God never said anything.


I talk with God every day before breakfast.


"I can't believe that!" said Alice.

"Can't you?" the queen said in a pitying tone. "Try again, draw a long breath, and shut your eyes."

"Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she said; "one can't believe impossible things."

"I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."


RD Sandman wrote:


Hmmmm, I have listened to the 911 audio several times and read a lot of

the news reports. I wasn't aware the Zimmerman was busting Martin for

illegal drug possession. Amazing fact......


Yeah, if you put Skittles in your nose it makes you feel high.


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

He's already made remarks about wanting Britain to "return to

Christian values", imposing Christianity in schools etc and now...


http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/apr/04/david-cameron-god-easter

And Her Majesty's Navy needs to go back to running on rum, sodomy, and the lash.


kensmithiscool wrote: On Apr 3, 3:30 pm, KabukiBob <fvrn...@yahoo.com wrote: >

Nightline appearance until a few days ago when you Twittered it as

rescheduled for April 5th.


Does that bother you, toodles? Isn't it possible that BL announced

the Nightline appearance and it somehow escaped you?  :D


"Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward." -- Master Je Tzu


BroilJAB wrote:

After the ACLU and Clarene Darrow lost

in a firestorm at the Scopes Trial, then

Evolution was never again included in a

text book for 44 years.


Yeah, after Sputnik, America quit fucking around and got serious about science.


Stormin Mormon wrote:

I didn't read this group for a year or so. Not much changed. I'll probably

read a few more posts, and then walk away for another year or so.


That's a shame, I liked your posts back in the Day.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:


It is true. Most athiests on this chat board hate God and Jesus Christ,

even though they might not believe in them. You don't have to believe

in something to hate it. For example: Doesn't everybody hate Gargamel?

I hate his guts. Anybody who loves Gargamel is a bad person.

From the Hebrew Gargam-El (Expectorate of God)


Barry OGrady wrote:


If Genesis is true God is running a protection racket.


Dats a nice eternal soul you got dere, be a shame if something happened to it.


.MattB. wrote:

>

Romney strengthened his grip on the GOP nomination by virtue of

winning the three states

DC must be one of the 57 states.


lsrlts wrote: On 4/4/2012 9:48 AM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:


No, I don't. Nor does anyone else need to. Society doesn't need

moral absolutes. Society is ruled by law, not "morality".


All laws reflect basic morality, fool.


All laws. Sure.

Constitution I-2-iii: Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.


Jeanne Douglas wrote:

In article <jlivcg$um7$1@dont-email.me>,

"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasmulletstein@isalwaysright.com

wrote:


"Syd M." <pauldavidwright@yahoo.com wrote in message

news:cc99870b-42fb-468c-b93c-06817e05463c@l30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 3, 8:34 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com wrote:

Athiests hate God so much that they're about to pop.

Repeating yer lies will not make them true, Zachy.

It is true. Most athiests on this chat board hate God and Jesus Christ,

even though they might not believe in them. You don't have to believe in

something to hate it. For example: Doesn't everybody hate Gargamel? I hate

his guts. Anybody who loves Gargamel is a bad person.


Who the hell is Gargamel?


He's the implacable foe of the Smurfs.


John Doe wrote:


Remove the wind turbines, allow the air to flow freely across the

Earth's surface, and thereby promote global cooling.

Air movement, by itself, doesn't cool on a global scale. Maybe locally.

 Ultimately the earth eliminates heat only by emitting infrared photons 

into the night sky.


Richard Steel wrote:

In candid study, Chinese scholar sees U.S. decline


Oh, a Chinese scholar? What could be more objective that THAT?


The body and soul of the country will meet the same fate as all other bodies and all other souls.


Tracey12 wrote:

Reporting from Washington-


The Supreme Court's conservative justices said Wednesday they are

prepared to strike down President Obama’s healthcare law entirely.


And the liberal justices drank the grape kool aid. So all eyes are on Kennedy.


Alan Ferris wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 06:36:44 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:


But a Catholic obeys dogma


Clearly you and Barker are not Catholic then and you fail to follow

such dogma. Neither are many bishops, as catholic dogma neither

supports lying or the rape of children.


Catholic dogma does not support racism.


duke wrote:


But a Catholic obeys dogma, which is truth revealed by God. At least a muslim

or a hindu or an agnostic or a non-religious are not atheists looking forward to

the flames.

What happens if you die and you find out Jesus is half-black, because Miriam was an Ethiopian Jew? You gonna call him Buckwheat?


duke wrote:


Man, dem blak folk jes kep sprdng dem leg.


You're talking major purgo time, duke, the way you represent Holy Mother Church to unbelievers.


Catpain 'Merca wrote:


If you examine closely you'll find that almost all Pentecostals smear

themselves with gravy.

They call it getting smeared with gravy in the Spirit.


duke wrote:


Oh, and btw, the Church founded by Jesus is the corrective follow-on to Judaism.


And Mormonism is the corrective follow-on to Catholicism.


David Fritzinger wrote:


If the animals were created that way, then the only explanation is a

trickster god, since he went out of his way to make things look

differently than they actually are.

Which in turn makes Paul of Tarsus a liar, when he said (Romans 1:10) For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.


Dacato wrote:


How is Romney going to defend the fact that his state was 47th in job

creation while he was governor?

47th out of 57, not so bad.


Liberal Here wrote:


Safety is never the first consideration when designing a dangerous

system.

Next time they should put the reactor on a hilltop next to a running stream, like WPPPSS ("Whoops") in Washington. And we shouldn't build cities five feet below sea level while we're at it.


Richard Steel wrote:


Nope...the Supreme Court ruled in 1918 that the Draft is

constitutional.


Slavery was constititional for eighty years too.


Alex W wrote:


The moment they accept Jesus as their saviour, they cease to

be Jews. To be a JEw while believing in Jesus would be the

same as being a Christian without believing in Jesus -- an

impossibility.

On the contrary, Paul of Tarsus accepted Jesus as his savior, yet he continued to assert that he was a Jew. It is written (Acts 21:39) But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew of Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city: and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak unto the people.


2938 Dead wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 11:58:38 -0700, Richard Steel wrote:


I'm not indignant. I just don't gernally take those fellows seriously.


And yet, here you are. Sputtering like Donald Duck.


That's his Barney Frank impression. Oh, wait, that's Daffy Duck.


Sid9 wrote:



FDR attacked the "Nine old men"

Obama is doing the same.


Nine old men. I realize Kagan and Ginsburg give that impression, Sotomayor not so much.


Jason wrote:


My point: If mankind had evolved from an ape-like creature--humans and

chimps would have the same number of chomosomes. That is not the case.

I think Jason is on to something here! He should publish in Nature.

Animal species with 46 chromosomes :

- Humans (Homo sapiens) - Muntjacs (Muntiacus reevesi) - Black rat (Rattus rattus) , but not all of them have 46 - European hare (Lepus europeus) - Merriam’s ground squirrel (Spermophilus canus) - Southern short-tailed shrew (Blarina carolinensis) - Mountain beaver (Aplodontia rufa) - Beach vole (Microtus breweri) - Nilgai (Boselaphus tragocamelus) - Kirk’s dik-dik (Rhynchotragus kirki) - Grey vole (Microtus arvalis) - Large bentwing bat (miniopterus schreibersi) - Bolivian Tuco-tuco (Ctenomys boliviensis) - Grevy’s zebra (Equus grevyi) - Crowned Lemur (Lemur mongoz coronatus) - Red Titi (Callicebus cupreus)



Jeanne Douglas wrote:

In article

<554083af-ef64-412e-b896-e092f798cf0f@d4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,

BroilJAB <DesignDenier@wmconnect.com

wrote:


Vatican reports an explosion in

membership in the RCC, and

a need for more schools built.



Oh, really? Where are these mythical schools being built?


All-boy schools, deep in the heart of the seminary grounds.


SilentOtto@hotmail.com wrote:


In an interview I saw with Hitchens, he said that Pope John Paul had

changed the rules, including getting rid of the Devil's Advocate, and

created a system where beautification could be fast tracked.


That's one way for the "infallible" Church to fuck herself, maybe canonize more mythological saints like Christopher.


BroilJAB wrote:

Today, evolutionists sorrowfully acknowledge

that 'there are fewer claimed transitionals than

177 years ago in Darwin's time'. But the entire

central dogma of Evolutionism was that 'at some

day in the remote future a Missing Link would

be found'.

After they find a Missing Link, it becomes just a Link, and then the Missing Link immediately disappears, poof, and they have to start looking for it all over again.


BeamMeUpScotty wrote:



It was what amounted to a coup inside the United States. The result

was that the President is NOW limited to two terms.


Maybe Obama can pack the court with just two more justices and get a 6-5 majority who will declare any GOP running against Obama is racist and nullify his campaign.


Obama Looks like No Limit Nigga Trayvon Martin: Paternity test ! wrote:



"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net wrote in message

news:jlih4n$o53$1@dont-email.me... >

"Obama Looks like No Limit Nigga Trayvon Martin: Paternity test !" <No

Limit




Bush Still Had Votes to Win in a Recount, Study Finds


Yep, it was 5-4 the first time, and any recount would definitely return the same 5-4 margin.


MarkA wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:27:49 -0700, Dino wrote:


So what is your point?


Perhaps you should look up the meaning of "microscopic" some time.

It just says "See penis, Dino"




duke wrote:


A woman's design function is as a life support system for the unborn. Don't

fight it.

Duke can't help it. The RCC view of human beings is nothing more exalted than their utility for the Church. "What have you done for me lately?"


BroilJAB wrote:

Lincoln's plan: Deport all Blacks back.


Virgil posting as 'LinuxGirl' said,

How do you deport someone who is born

here? Where do they go?


BroilJAB said,

Why waste our time with these transparent

nyms, 'Virgil'. It fools none at all. And what did

Lincoln mean, you pretend to ask? Get Blacks

the HELL outta Dodge --back to Africa.

My ethnic background is Filipina, but I'm a native American: I was born in Vancouver USA. And most blacks are native Americans too.


Fred E Brown wrote:


They are not tax breaks, loopholes or subsidies, they are incentives to

drill and find oil. The incentives are repaid as royalties when oil is

found and sold.


I need an incentive to buy gasoline right now.


Lamont Cranston wrote: On 4/4/2012 3:59 PM, .MattB. wrote:

Holder says 'courts have final say' in response to furor over Obama's

health law comments


What an unremarkable statement.

Remarkable in that he thinks it would be different if he said the courts do NOT have the final say.


Patrick wrote:

 "Andrew W" <remove_ajwerner@optusnet.com.au

wrote:


...........why 1 per year (a possibility) is more significant than

the 250 converts per year to the Catholic Church in my diocese.

250 converts a year?

You live in the US Bible belt (Louisiana). What happens in your area is no

reflection to the rest of the world.


The initials R.C.I.A. stands for the "Rite of Christian Initiation of

Adults." (RCIA)

Roman Catholic Indoctrination and Assimilation. The Village People sang a song about it, goes, "It's fun to stay in the R-C-I-A, R-C-I-A hey hey!"


Phlip wrote: On Apr 4, 10:42 pm, MattB. <trdell1...@gmail.com....... wrote:


Ron Paul 2003 Speech Predicts Iraq Invasion - Loss Of Freedom &

Privacy After 9/11 - U. of Texas


Me and the DOD neocons I was hanging out with on the morning of 9/11

predicted the same thing, on the morning of 9/11.


It's easy to claim you "predicted" something that happened eleven years ago. Now try predicting something that will happen tomorrow.


• R. L. Measures. wrote:

In article <jgkeegan-788610.18033905042012@news.individual.net>, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com wrote:

greeley is a former priest, you imbecile.


• Greely is still a priest.


A priest who writes smut. At least it's hetero.


MarkA wrote:


Romney For President: He's not such a bad choice!


EDLIN for Word Processor: It's not as bad as you think!


felix_unger wrote: On 05-April-2012 11:20 AM, linuxgal wrote:


duke wrote:


Who said there was no fall? >

Christianity says Man started perfect and became pond scum. Evolution

says we started as pond scum and became Man.


Duke likes to have a finger in both pies..


Well he IS a crusty old fart.


Jason wrote:


Since the Jews are God's chosen people, it's logical to conclude that Jews

will also be raptured. It says above that God will bless the Jewish

people.

So much for the idea of accepting Jesus Christ to be saved.


Jason wrote:


It was actually a Big Fish. It did mention in one scripture in the New

Testament (Matthew 12:40) that it was a whale but that was a tranlation

error. I have a newer translation and the Big Fish in that New Testament

scripture was called a sea monster.

At least with a whale, Jonah might have had some air to breathe, maybe, if he punched a hole through to the whale's lungs. With a fish, Jonah needed to hold his breath for three days and three nights.


Lookout wrote:

On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 20:31:25 -0700 (PDT), Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway criminals <b>etaxxx@earthlink.net wrote:


All decent americans owe Sheriff Joe a debt of gratitude for keeping

this issue alive. Haven't heard much from orly lately.


He's under investigation.


Ya...Alabama..the dumbest SOBs in the nation are really going to make

something of this.


In Birmingham they love the guv'nuh. Boo hoo hoo. Now we all did what we could do. No Watergate does not bother me, does your conscious bother you? Now tell me true.


Alan Ferris wrote:

On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 17:22:04 -0400, Republican Restroom Romeo <wanker@hotmail.com wrote:


On 04/04/2012 06:36 AM, Tracey12 wrote:

Andrew Breitbart, a great American who died under very strange

circumstances did not die of a heat attack. >

Andrew's toxicology report is long over due.

It happens when someone chokes on his own bile.


Or where the cause of death is embarrassing and the family ask that it

not be made public.

Autoerotic asphyxiation with the covers of Ann Coulter books strewn about.


Jason wrote:

In article <to2dnd01tdG-c-HSnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote:

When Satan told Eve that "you shall be as gods...." That was a lie. > >

What was false about it, since the serpent narrowed the godlike property

he was talking about to merely knowing the difference between good and evil?


But she did NOT become as gods.


On the contrary, God himself said of the humans, "Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil..."


Jason wrote:

In article <to2dnd81tdFkc-HSnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote:

God does not program humans. >

On the contrary, it is written (Romans 9:21) Hath not the potter power

over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and

another unto dishonour?


That scripture is about Christians making use of their free will to serve

God and to do everything that God asks them to do--like Joseph and Jesus.


You have a reading comprehension problem, Jason, no wonder you think Jews are raptured. That scripture is about God's ability to create some humans who will be programmed to accept Jesus Christ and be saved, and others who will be programmed to reject him and be burned.



TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:


What did America gain by going to the Moon in the 60's and then

forgetting about it?


Tang!


{:-]))) wrote:



Synchronistically,

if it means something

then it means something.


If we share, this nightmare. We can dream. Spiritus mundi.

If you act, as you think. The missing link. Synchronicity

(The Police)


Stormin Mormon wrote:

One friend of mine said that from Pres. Monson's first talk, on Saturday.

Said that it sounds like things will get a lot worse for the saints, and

soon. Persecution.

Yeah, pretty soon every American will be talking about the President's temple garments and the whole thing will be held up to unprecedented ridicule.



Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:28:23 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Tracey12 wrote: >

Then why is Obama challenging the power of the Supreme Court?

Because he (and everyone else) saw what a train wreck his case really

was when it was presented to the court.


His case?


"His case" was a fucking REPUBLICAN originated Health Care Law.

Yes, I would use that precise word to describe Etch-a-Sketch's bill.


AGWFacts wrote:

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:49:55 +0000 (UTC), "Erik©" <Erik@nobody.com> wrote:


Should Big Environmentalism Be Outlawed So That Benovelent Big Oil Won't Go Broke?


Okay, I give up. What the bloody fuck is "big environmentalism?"


Solyndra, Chevy Dolt, etc...


Obama Looks like No Limit Nigga Trayvon Martin: Paternity test ! wrote:



"Bradley K. Sherman" ks@panix.com wrote in message

news:jlkdqc$p3l$1@panix3.panix.com...

Thank you, Mr. Obama! >


WASHINGTON (AP) -- The number of people fired last week totaled

357,000. Those fired workers said they don't know how they are going to

be able to look for jobs now as gas prices are so fucking high compared

to when Bush was in office and gas was only $ 1.69 on Jan 20 2009.



We are in a very tenuous period in the recovery cycle. Housing has never recovered and the last thing we need is rising oil prices, inflation and an economic recovery derailed by another self-inflicted wound in the ME (ala the Little Satan hitting Iran and starting WW3).


<b>duke wrote:


NOOOOOOOOO way. Mankind started right out of the blocks as a sinner. And we

are still born that way today in original sin.


On the contrary, it is written (Gen 1):

[27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

[31] And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.


Tracey12 wrote: On Apr 5, 10:14 am, Ted Parvo <parvo...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 4, 4:26 pm, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com wrote: >

Remember just a couple of days ago when many democrats /

progressives / communists said that if the Supremes kill off Obamacare

law, it will be good for Obama???

Then why is Obama challenging the power of the Supreme Court?

The leftist totalitarian mindset does not handle "no" very well.


Certainly seems that way. Obama is thin skinned and very easily upset

by his opponents even if they are the USSC justices.

This isn't personal, it's just Commerce.


Stormin Mormon wrote:

We havn't had a good underwear conversation since someone asked Pres.

Clinton if he wore boxers or briefs. Reporter from Rolling Stones, was it?


Tabitha Soren from MTV.


Mulligan wrote: On Apr 5, 1:16 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Stormin Mormon wrote:

One friend of mine said that from Pres. Monson's first talk, on Saturday.

Said that it sounds like things will get a lot worse for the saints, and

soon. Persecution.

Yeah, pretty soon every American will be talking about the President's

temple garments


Where did you get that from?


He was talking about persecution of MORMONS.

Mitt Romney is a Mormon, assuredly?


duke wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 14:20:47 -0400, ThomMadura <Tommadura@optonline.net wrote:


THe bible's are just so badly written that they do not even deserve

mention - compared to AESOPS


Yes, like the tooth fairy. Did you wear your tutu when you did that trick?


Don't be turning any around here.


Jason wrote:


Did God cause that serial killer to kill those people? yes or no


Negligent homicide. He saw it coming, and let it come.



Jason wrote: >

That means nothing. Did Obama mention evolution in any of his books? Is he

an advocate of macro-evolution or evolution?



Certainly his position on marriage equality has evolved.


duke wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 12:06:51 +1000, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au wrote:


God has been updated many times since then.


Actually, he hasn't. God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. That's the

beauty of God.

So what's the point of praying to God, if he doesn't change his mind?

"So the Lord changed His mind about the harm which He said He would do to His people." Exodus 32:14 NASB


Jason wrote:

In article <7vOdnTZSCptJLuDSnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote:

It was actually a Big Fish. It did mention in one scripture in the New

Testament (Matthew 12:40) that it was a whale but that was a tranlation

error. I have a newer translation and the Big Fish in that New Testament

scripture was called a sea monster.

At least with a whale, Jonah might have had some air to breathe, maybe,

if he punched a hole through to the whale's lungs. With a fish, Jonah

needed to hold his breath for three days and three nights.


It was a special fish--perhaps created by God for that purpose so perhaps

it did have a air hole. I don't know.


Ben Kenobi's tagline is "Use the force." Schwarzeneggar's tagline is "I'll be back." Jason's tagline is "I don't know."


Mulligan wrote: On Apr 5, 2:22 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Mulligan wrote: On Apr 5, 1:16 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Stormin Mormon wrote: > One friend of mine said that from Pres. Monson's first talk, on Saturday. > Said that it sounds like things will get a lot worse for the saints, and > soon. Persecution.

Yeah, pretty soon every American will be talking about the President's

temple garments

Where did you get that from?

He was talking about persecution of MORMONS.

Mitt Romney is a Mormon, assuredly?


Mitt is president?

Not yet, hence my use of the words "pretty" and "soon".


Jason wrote:

In article <7vOdnTNSCpsaKuDSnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote:

In article <to2dnd01tdG-c-HSnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > Jason wrote: > When Satan told Eve that "you shall be as gods...." That was a lie. >> >>

What was false about it, since the serpent narrowed the godlike property

he was talking about to merely knowing the difference between good

and evil?

But she did NOT become as gods. >

On the contrary, God himself said of the humans, "Behold, the man is

become as one of us, to know good and evil..."


Only in regard to knowing good from evil. She did not have the power to

see into the future or to heal anyone.


And that is precisely what I meant when I said (see above) "the serpent narrowed the godlike property he was talking about to merely knowing the difference between good and evil". I'm not accustomed to repeating myself to be understood, but then, I'm not a third grade teacher.


Jason wrote:


No--that is not true. Mormons may believe that humans are god-like--but

not most Christians. I am not god-like.


On the contrary, it is written (Genesis 1:27) God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Image means likeness. So we are in the likeness of God, or if you will, God-like.


HVAC wrote: On 4/5/2012 9:12 AM, vtcapo wrote: > >

So what? Many witnesses have seen ghosts and angels as well. >

OH! Sorry, you believe in all that bullshit too. >

Keep the blinders on. Your paradigm is safe.... for now.



When you present a ghost or angel to be examined, I will

be perfectly open to it's existence. Until then, it's just

another kooky story from a kooky individual.


Even Jesus had trouble doing miracles in his hometown when he was surrounded by skeptics (Mark 6:4-5).



Jeanne Douglas wrote:

On Apr 5, 10:05 am, Ray Fischer Buggers Little Boys <RayFischerFuksLittleB...@yahoo.com wrote:

Attn Obozo:


Who is Obozo?


Obummer.


Jason wrote:



They are Jews as a result of having Abraham as an ancestor.



Arab Christians and Muslims have Abraham as an ancestor, yet they are not Jews.


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 12:48:23 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Jeanne Douglas wrote:

On Apr 5, 10:05 am, Ray Fischer Buggers Little Boys <RayFischerFuksLittleB...@yahoo.com wrote:

Attn Obozo:

Who is Obozo? >

Obummer.


Who is Obummer?

Obongo.


Mulligan wrote: On Apr 5, 3:33 pm, Mulligan <yost_...@hotmail.com wrote: On Apr 5, 3:27 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: > > > > > Mulligan wrote: On Apr 5, 2:22 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Mulligan wrote: On Apr 5, 1:16 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Stormin Mormon wrote: > One friend of mine said that from Pres. Monson's first talk, on Saturday. > Said that it sounds like things will get a lot worse for the saints, and > soon. Persecution. > Yeah, pretty soon every American will be talking about the President's > temple garments > Where did you get that from? > He was talking about persecution of MORMONS. > Mitt Romney is a Mormon, assuredly?

Mitt is president?

Not yet, hence my use of the words "pretty" and "soon".

So you are talking about something that has not happened yet and may

not

happen at all and yet you call that a well crafted argument on usenet
as if you are some kind of prognosticator.


If Monson can do I, so can I.


US4ZION wrote:

Irrelevant. Pharoah found out that his magicians (top scientists of

the day) simply could not stand up against the God of Israel.


Oh, they gave him a good run for his money.

The first plague was a heavy spill of petroleum, which covered the surface of the Nile river with a brown syrupy layer, and many of the people said the god of Moshe had turned the river into blood, and it was bitter, and they were forced to dig new wells near to the river to drink. But Pharaoh's magicians were able to mix oil with water and produce the same brown mess in the court of Pharaoh, so Pharaoh did not give in to Moshe' request for religious leave for the Immigrants.

The second plague was a great swarm of frogs that covered every square foot of Egypt. Pharaoh's magicians were also able to bring forth frogs, but they could not remove the frogs, so this time Pharaoh said he would grant the religious leave if Moshe made the frogs go away. Moshe made the frogs go away, but Pharaoh went back on his word and did not grant the religious leave for the Immigrants.

The third plague was lice, and Pharaoh's magicians could not duplicate this plague, but Pharaoh did not let the Immigrants go on religious leave to worship El, and he waited out the plague, which only lasted a few days anyway.

Lather, rinse, repeat...


Patrick wrote:

"W.T.S." <m14m@earthlink.net wrote

Third World Country.

Of course he might lie.

I doubt Ireland is a "third world country". Besides, it _was_ one of

the most Catholic countries on Earth.


So was the Philippines at one time.



The Vatican still has no clue what is happening.


Jason wrote:

In article <3IudnVCxhpsPZ-DSnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote: >

They are Jews as a result of having Abraham as an ancestor. > >

Arab Christians and Muslims have Abraham as an ancestor, yet they are

not Jews.


OK--good point--I should have said Abraham and Sarah as ancestors.


That disqualifies Muslims.


I get it. You start from the premise that Muslims are disqualified, and then choose the mother that will pass the Jews while filtering out the Arabs. Well, you aren't done yet. Isaac, son of Sarah, had two boys, Jacob and Esau. Jacob became father of the Israelites, and Esau became father of the Edomites, who lived in Jordan and today are...Muslims. So let me fix your post. You should have said "They are Jews as a result of having Abraham and Sarah and Jacob and Leah and Rachel as ancestors." I could also mention that Jews themselves are a subdivision of the Israelites but I believe that would cover it.


Free Lunch wrote:

On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 17:53:29 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com>

wrote in alt.talk.creationism:


Free Lunch wrote:

But Republicans prefer the famously anti-religious Ayn Rand, so we can

ignore them when they claim to be Christian.

Lots of horrible things have been done to others in the name of a

religion, in the name of freedom, democracy, communism, socialism,

conservatism, liberalism, etc. Each are someone's religion, someone's

"church." Ayn Rand had Objectivism and she ran it like any other cult.


Yes. I just find it quite annoying when the cult followers allege that

they are followers of Jesus when they manifestly have rejected the

teachings ascribed to Him in the gospels.

The most glaring example being Luke 14:33

"So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple."


Mitchell Holman wrote:

Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in

news:Jason-0504121239250001@67-150-126-160.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:


In article <XnsA02C5106AB54Dnomailcomcastnet@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net wrote: > >

   Costa Rica has the very health care system Rush is

complaining about...........

He probably did not know that information. He will probably not keep

his promise.


  So Rush is either stupid or a liar.

At a minimum, he's un-American. Costa Rica? Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya, Rush.


ThomMadura wrote: On 4/5/2012 11:56 PM, Jahbulon wrote:

"Stormin Mormon"<cayoung61***spamblock@hotmail.com

wrote in 

news:J0sfr.2

$ew5.1@news.usenetserver.com: >

plonk > >

Well praise the lord. >



Unfortunately - Jack Lord - is also a made up name - a stage name

Just as the Character Steve McGarrett he played in Hawaii Five O was.

Book 'im Danno.


Jahbulon wrote:

ThomMadura <Tommadura@optonline.net wrote in

news:4f7e8b12$0$25165$607ed4bc@cv.net:


Well praise the lord.

Unfortunately - Jack Lord - is also a made up

name - a stage name Just as the Character Steve

McGarrett he played in Hawaii Five O was.


Lord is not an uncommon family name here in England.


Nephi was not an uncommon name in Bountiful. One time Jesus paid a visit there and said, "Nephi come forth!" which would be like standing in a crowd of a million Americans and saying "John Smith come forth!" But the correct Nephi came forward, kissed Jesus' feet, and Jesus gave him the power to baptize.


On Apr 5, 4:30 pm, mind <b>eing@.... --- -- . wrote:


It might be possible to get rid of something wrong

by chopping off a piece that isn't right. What's left

will still not be all right. There will always be wrong

as long as right exists in one's mind.


Arrakis teaches the attitude of the knife - chopping off what's incomplete and saying: 'Now, it's complete because it's ended here.'


BroilJAB wrote:

A hundred new posts from Calvin Sereno Ramsey

and not ONE mention of Jesus.

What's the point? If you're in the elect, Jesus is redundant, and if you're not in the elect, Jesus can't help you.


BroilJAB wrote:

No atheist now alive need choose Hell, but all

of them will do. Each man can come to Jesus.

But the atheist makes the personal willful choice

to spend eternity in the fiery cauldron of Hell.

At least it's a DRY heat.


duke wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 05:19:02 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

But a Catholic obeys dogma, which is truth revealed by God. At least a muslim

or a hindu or an agnostic or a non-religious are not atheists looking forward to

the flames.

What happens if you die and you find out Jesus is half-black, because

Miriam was an Ethiopian Jew? You gonna call him Buckwheat?


Oh, noooooooooo. But, to make it easy, I might call him Denzel Washington or

Louis Gossett.

One time Moshe wanted to marry an Ethiopian, but she wasn't white enough for Moshe's sister. God said, "I show you white" and gave her leprosy for a week.


C. A. Rotwang wrote: >

Not my deal man. I'll just sit home and watch The Masters golf

tournament from Agusta Georgia. >

Too much testosterone there, needs a woman's touch.


duke wrote:


And why would I, a Roman Catholic, not be a Christian when everything we are and

represent and stand for is found in the bible?


Except for the deal about genuflecting to statues of saints.

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God!" -- The LORD


duke wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 09:10:24 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote:


On 4/5/2012 9:05 AM, duke wrote:

But you're OK if it goes on. No problem for you, eh?

Can you possibly be this stupid?? Suffering, like breathing, happens.


Because of policies that YOU support. Can't you see that?


Actually, as a Roman Catholic, I'm elated that the RCC is the most active group

in helping the needy worldwide.

I don't know any boys that need to be diddled by a priest.


SkyEyes wrote:

>

When I worked second shift Technical Publications at Northrop Anaheim,

the young lady I worked with was dating Buckwheat's son. So my ex and

I went on a couple of double dates with them. Got so I couldn't speak

proper English, since all the son and his girlfriend spoke was

Buckwheat-speak.

And that ended up in your pubs, the DOD couldn't make heads or tails of them, and all the missile contracts went to Raytheon. Nice going!


Patrick wrote:

"linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in message

news:gLKdnbjPG4MR2-PSnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com... Patrick wrote:

"W.T.S." <m14m@earthlink.net wrote > Third World Country. > Of course he might lie.

I doubt Ireland is a "third world country". Besides, it _was_ one of

the most Catholic countries on Earth.

So was the Philippines at one time.


The Vatican still has no clue what is happening.


Don't try to speak for the Vatican.

You don't have the intelligence to do so.


I admit they are smart enough to realize they need to change the subject from priestly abuse.

CNN April 10, 2012:

The Vatican may have forgiven the Beatles over the weekend for their "satanic" messages -- but Ringo Starr, the legendary band's drummer, says he couldn't care less.

In a tribute published to mark the 40th anniversary of the breakup of the band, who singer John Lennon once claimed were "more popular than Jesus," the Vatican newspaper "L'Osservatore Romano" said it had forgiven them and called them a "precious jewel."

But Starr told CNN: "Didn't the Vatican say we were satanic or possibly satanic -- and they've still forgiven us? I think the Vatican, they've got more to talk about than the Beatles."



duke wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 06:10:15 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:


In article <9fvon79pgujagera4a53j0t2msbs47mt81@4ax.com>, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote: >

I quote only Paul. >

• Paul is an alias for the same dude.


Saul didn't speak the language.


On the contrary, it is written (Acts 26:14) And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.


Barry OGrady wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:46:37 -0700, J <jdyoung1@ymail.com wrote:


His Holiness will not rest until the clergy once again places itself

beyond approach from sexual temptations. It's time for the RCC to set

itself as the moral standard bearer it historically was, and Pope

Benedict XVI is the man to lead them there.


The church should ensure that priests are never in a position of

trust.


You know, they don't have this problem in the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Anglican Communion, where priests are allowed to be "the husband of one wife" as prescribed by St. Paul.


John Manning wrote: On 4/6/2012 12:06 AM, chibiabos wrote:

In article<Er-dnRCZEIVBb-DSnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@giganews.com>, John Manning<jrobertm@terra.com.br

wrote:

>

President Obama flashed the Vulcan salute with Lt. Uhura,

or at least the actress who played her, Nichelle Nichols. >

Nichols posted a photo of her and Obama doing the iconic hand

gesture from "Star Trek" in the Oval Office from a recent visit. >

SEE Photo: http://twitpic.com/95b6ki >

What a great picture. I had such a crush on Nichelle when I was

sixteen.



Sheesh! Me too! >

I have her autobiography, "Beyond Uhura"... great stuff.


hypatiab7 wrote: On Thursday, April 5, 2012 6:09:13 PM UTC-4, Jeanne Douglas wrote: On Apr 5, 12:30 pm, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br wrote:

President Obama flashed the Vulcan salute with Lt. Uhura,

or at least the actress who played her, Nichelle Nichols. >

Nichols posted a photo of her and Obama doing the iconic hand

gesture from "Star Trek" in the Oval Office from a recent visit. >

SEE Photo:http://twitpic.com/95b6ki

Beautiful. >

Sadly, I'm sure Fox will find a way to make this a bad thing. >

JD


As someone on that page said, the birthers will say he was

born on Vulcan.

The evidence is incontrovertable:

http://tobyspinks.com/images/Seperated_Obama_Tuvok.jpg


TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:


Obama wins the game so far. Not because his plan is that good, just

because you don't have a Plan B for Universal Healthcare.


George W. Bush had a Plan D, but Democrats opposed it on the grounds that it was Dubya's idea.


pyjamarama wrote:

Well, it's not like he publically called into question the legitimacy

of the Judicial branch or "secretly" tried to weaken our national

defense....


Oh, wait....shit....

That's what I call Dead On Arrival.


.MattB. wrote:


  I just thought it strange that kids saw it coming and the

government claims it didn't. I will always wonder if we could have

softened the fall if we had acted sooner.

Obviously there would be fewer mortgages underwater if the brakes were applied in 2005 rather than 2007 when $700,000 McMansions were going to $14,000 a year migrant lettuce-pickers.


Clave wrote: >

The answer to "Am I my brother's keeper" is supposed to be YES.

That's what the lazy brothers always say.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Apr-05 19:18, felix_unger wrote:

On 06-April-2012 5:03 AM, Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Apr-05 11:20, duke wrote:

On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:56:04 -0700, linuxgal<linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: felix_unger wrote: On 05-April-2012 11:20 AM, linuxgal wrote: duke wrote: >> > Who said there was no fall? >> > Christianity says Man started perfect and became pond scum. > Evolution > says we started as pond scum and became Man. >> > Duke likes to have a finger in both pies.. > > Well he IS a crusty old fart. >

You don't know the half of it. >

Are you going to describe the other half? >

maybe he's only half a crusty old fart?


Oh, I think I get it ... is he a gingerbread man?

I think so. Lord knows I like to bite his head off.


duke wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 05:26:39 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

Oh, and btw, the Church founded by Jesus is the corrective follow-on to Judaism. >

And Mormonism is the corrective follow-on to Catholicism.


They are not even Christians.

Which makes logical sense when Jews says Christians are not even Jews.


HVAC wrote: On 4/6/2012 7:51 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote: > >

You can be a lousy speller and still be clever. I'm not in a Google

group on spelling or grammar. All the years you waste picking on my

bad spelling did you no good. Think about it. Oooops I 'm sorry you

need a brain to think. TreBert >

Space can bend concave,or convex Space can shrink,and expand. Gravity

is the force needed. TreBert



No one has ever shrunk space or observed space shrinking.


Space shrinks in the vicinity of the sun. Makes the perihelion of Mercury rotate a little bit every lap, as though a short segment was snipped out of the circle. Einstein's general relativity was confirmed by this observation, and it is also seen in the case of two pulsars that orbit around a common barycenter.


Alex W wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:42:32 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


Jason wrote:

In article <3IudnVCxhpsPZ-DSnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > Jason wrote: > > They are Jews as a result of having Abraham as an ancestor. >> >>

Arab Christians and Muslims have Abraham as an ancestor, yet they are

not Jews.

OK--good point--I should have said Abraham and Sarah as ancestors. >

That disqualifies Muslims. >

I get it. You start from the premise that Muslims are disqualified,

and then choose the mother that will pass the Jews while filtering out

the Arabs. Well, you aren't done yet. Isaac, son of Sarah, had two

boys, Jacob and Esau. Jacob became father of the Israelites, and Esau

became father of the Edomites, who lived in Jordan and today

are...Muslims. So let me fix your post. You should have said "They

are Jews as a result of having Abraham and Sarah and Jacob and Leah and

Rachel as ancestors." I could also mention that Jews themselves are a

subdivision of the Israelites but I believe that would cover it.


How does this establish descent? Isaac and his sons should

be irrelevant, should they not? After all, as far as I am

aware Jewish descent is strictly matrilineal.

Old school Judaism, it was all about the fathers. That's why you don't see a genealogy from Jesus to David via Mary, St. Anne, etc. Some time in the middle ages the rabbis switched to using mothers, because of a very simple and obvious principle. A woman can never say, "I have no children, well, heh, none that I KNOW OF!!!"



Devils Advocaat wrote: On Apr 6, 7:21 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:


[snipped for brevity]


Still you fail to answer those three recent questions.

But never mind.

Try this one on for size.

When was the first bible of the Christian faith compiled?

I'll take a guess that is was probably the first or second century.


Wrong.

390 CE.


HVAC wrote: On 4/5/2012 6:33 PM, Warhol wrote: > >

At his home Monday, Mr. Watts said he has never allowed weapons inside

and that when his four children were growing up, they were not allowed

to play "cops and robbers, to kill the Indians." >

During the Vietnam War, Mr. Watts, who served in the military from 1950

to 1961, refused to let his boys play GI Joes.



The US didn't deploy combat troops to Vietnam until 1965.

But Ike sent military advisors there, and they had force protection.



Jason wrote:


I have evidence to support my point of view. For example, Obama has not

allowed the drilling for oil at the Artic National Wildlife Refuge and off

the Mid-Atlantic coast (as Virginia, for example, wants to do).


They don't know da Chicago way. You gotta let da boss wet his beak a little, capiche?



Don Martin wrote: linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: Jason wrote: >

No--that is not true. Mormons may believe that humans are god-like--but

not most Christians. I am not god-like. >

On the contrary, it is written (Genesis 1:27) God created man in his own

image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. >

Image means likeness. So we are in the likeness of God, or if you will, God-like.


It would appear that Jason's god is a primate of some sort.


I wonder what fruit trees his god climbed down from in distant antiquity.


MelissA wrote:

I worship bees!


A lot of the guys here would agree:


MelissA wrote:

I worship bees!


A lot of the guys here would agree:

http://www.halloweenplayground.com/images/roma/busy-bee-costume.jpg


Uncle Vic wrote:


Then he can't make a rock so heavy he can't lift it. That means he is

not all powerful. But don't worry. If he makes something he *can't*

lift, he's also not all powerful, not perfect.


God can make a rock that's too heavy for him to lift, but the Earth keeps getting pushed away by his feet and he wasn't solved that issue yet.


duke wrote:

>

God help America if he gets reelected.

I thought God picked him.

Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.


Phlip wrote: On Apr 6, 6:42 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: .MattB. wrote:

  I just thought it strange that kids saw it coming and the

government claims it didn't. I will always wonder if we could have

softened the fall if we had acted sooner.

Obviously there would be fewer mortgages underwater if the brakes were

applied in 2005 rather than 2007 when $700,000 McMansions were going to

$14,000 a year migrant lettuce-pickers.


I wouldn't be setting your white-guilt heart all aflutter to remind

you minorities have been paying back their mortgages more often than

whites, would I?

White guilt. Heh. I'm Filipina-American.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 05:55:39 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com wrote:


Actually, your ignorance is showing if you can't provide what law

there is that requires something must be "IN" the Constitution to be

considered constitutional or not. Cite it or properly ejakayte

yerself, Billy-Bob.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution



There is absolutely NO wording that says something must literally be

"in" the US Constitution to be legal.



Sure there is. Amendment 10:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


duke wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:36:48 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Patrick wrote:

 "Andrew W" <remove_ajwerner@optusnet.com.au

wrote: > > ...........why 1 per year (a possibility) is more significant than > the 250 converts per year to the Catholic Church in my diocese. > 250 converts a year? > You live in the US Bible belt (Louisiana). What happens in your area is no > reflection to the rest of the world.

The initials R.C.I.A. stands for the "Rite of Christian Initiation of

Adults." (RCIA)

Roman Catholic Indoctrination and Assimilation. The Village People sang

a song about it, goes, "It's fun to stay in the R-C-I-A, R-C-I-A hey hey!"


My favorable impression of this one is really sinking badly now. She started

good and fast, and now old and slow.


Right back atcha.


duke wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:25:18 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us wrote:


>

Get back to us when you get evidence.


Given it to you-all many times. My starting point is always creation of the

universe - something from nothing into nothingness. God did it.


We see evidence of virtual particle pairs created from the void all the time. Maybe the universe is one big giant vacuum fluctuation.


duke wrote: >

Seriously though, if you wish to discuss how much electrons weigh, I

recommend that you start a new topic thread (it could be interesting).


How many electrons can you see in a minute?


3.7749 * 10^20 per amp.


Eddie Haskell wrote:

"lsrlts" <dddrr@gnail.invalid wrote in message

news:jllfge$3hm$2@dont-email.me... On 4/5/2012 5:57 PM, Matt wrote:

A passport is not a right, you do not have the "right" to travel. You

do not

have the "right" to drive.

We have rights to pursue happiness and have liberty. >

Travel and driving qualify under both definitions.


Driving requires a license just like marriage so neither are rights by

definition.


You can drive all day on your own land without a license. Come out here to the commons, it's in the public interest that you know the rules.


wy wrote: On Apr 6, 9:37 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote: > > >

Obama wins the game so far. Not because his plan is that good, just

because you don't have a Plan B for Universal Healthcare.

George W. Bush had a Plan D, but Democrats opposed it on the grounds

that it was Dubya's idea.


I think it was because it would be unfunded, meaning adding hundreds

of billions more to the debt. Thanks, George.

Yeah, we all know what fiscal conservatives the Democrats are.


Sid9 wrote:



Plan D was Republican giveaway to insurance companies and the

pharmaceutical industry...with crumbs to Medicare recipients.

Inadequately funded it has become a drain on our Treasury.

As opposed to the big moneymaker ObamaCare is. Why, there's committees lining up right now now decided what to do with the windfall.


RD Sandman wrote:

>

Where in hell did this twit get the idea that Martin's girlfriend had a

recorded call? All that was recorded was the time and duration of the

cal, not what occurred on it. >

What does any of this Zimmerman shit have to do with atheism?



BroilJAB wrote:


You put your finger on the Anti-Jesus

teaching of Calvin Ramsey. He actually

teaches Jesus can NOT save you.

Well, that's probably the only thing he's getting right.


Alan Ferris wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:49:20 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:


Actually, as a Roman Catholic, I'm elated that the RCC is the most active group

in helping the needy worldwide.


Liar, the UN does far more than Catholics do. Also they do not lie to

people.

UN: A place where dictators opposed to free speech (Castro, Putin, Ahmedinejad, Mugabe, Obama, Chavez, Kim Jong Un) demand to be heard.



ThomMadura wrote: On 4/6/2012 11:54 AM, linuxgal wrote: duke wrote: >

"So the Lord changed His mind about the harm which He said He would

do to His people." Exodus 32:14 NASB >

Or so some writer put it. He didn't know that God surpasses all time. > >

If we can't trust the Bible to teach truth why the hell do you keep

falling back on it?


IF you actually read the bible - it must eventually get to say the truth

- after all - it actually takes ALL SIDES of the issues.

Correct. Turn with me, ladies and gentlemen of the congregation, to the Book of Proverbs, chapter twenty-six, verses four and five. Please follow along.

[4] Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

[5] Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.


.MattB. wrote:



 Which side would want Detroit?  

They could look south, to Canada, eh?


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Apr-06 09:07, Samuel Harrigon wrote:


Don't drink it >

Rev. Samuel Harrigon

Good Old Gospel Ship Church


How did breastfeeding get classified as Satanic?


Luke 11:27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.


kensmithiscool wrote:


Maureen, you really shouldn't respond to your 1 month-old sockpuppet.

It's bad form.

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


MarkA wrote:



Now THAT's rich, duke! NOWHERE in the Bible does it command you to avoid

eating meat on Fridays, however, it DOES tell you never to eat shrimp! I

guess the Word-O-God is more like "suggestions"?


Me, I gave up Lent for Lent.


Obama is a climate change Hoaxer wrote:

"The world's greatest snow-capped peaks, which run in a chain from the

Himalayas to Tian Shan on the border of China and Kyrgyzstan, have

lost no ice over the last decade, new research shows.


Al Gore call your office.


2938 Dead wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 14:35:46 -0700, wy wrote:


On Apr 6, 5:13 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: .MattB. wrote: >

 Which side would want Detroit?

They could look south, to Canada, eh?

Yep, you're geographically challenged alright. Hey, about looking north

to Peru?


You should know better. Travel due south from Detroit, the first thing

you hit is Windsor, in the Province of Ontario.


Then again, 80% of kids these days think Kansas is in Central America.


duke wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 06:33:06 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Barry OGrady wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:46:37 -0700, J <jdyoung1@ymail.com wrote: >

His Holiness will not rest until the clergy once again places itself

beyond approach from sexual temptations. It's time for the RCC to set

itself as the moral standard bearer it historically was, and Pope

Benedict XVI is the man to lead them there.

The church should ensure that priests are never in a position of

trust. >

You know, they don't have this problem in the Eastern Orthodox Church

and the Anglican Communion, where priests are allowed to be "the husband

of one wife" as prescribed by St. Paul.


That means no more than one.

Sorry Mormons.


THE BORG wrote:


God stripped them of their male genitals and male strength, and gave

them a ridiculous body and ridiculous appearance and ridiculous voice.

All in all, I prefer ridiculous.


Calvin Ramsey wrote: On 4/6/2012 3:49 PM, linuxgal wrote: BroilJAB wrote: >

You put your finger on the Anti-Jesus

teaching of Calvin Ramsey. He actually

teaches Jesus can NOT save you. >

Well, that's probably the only thing he's getting right.


Now you're both lying.


No, it's true. For the same reason Helen Keller can't drive a car.


Smiler wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:03:07 -0700, chibiabos wrote:


In article

6e436c0-50ce-4284-a8d2-72209ca971cb@2g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, <b> US4ZION <us4zion@gmail.com wrote: >

Godless science

Science works because it is godless. Unless of course your computer is

powered by pixies. >


CPU = Central Pixie Unit

PSU = Pixie Supply Unit

North and South bridges for the Trolls to hide under.

DIMMs = 'Dwarf Inside' Memory Modules


Don't get me started on Daemons.


• R. L. Measures. wrote:

In article

<31087486.180.1333760633745.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbbqr8>, "ancientofdays15@yahoo.com" <ancientofdays15@yahoo.com wrote:


On Friday, April 6, 2012 3:15:02 PM UTC-7, John...@peoplepc.com wrote:

OUR GOD IS GOD >

http://www.amazon.com/OUR-GOD-IS-ebook/dp/B007QO8QQI/ref=cm_cmu_up_thanks_hdr

Peaople will do anything to con the people !


• The Salvation business is the slickest scam ever invented by man

because it can neither be proved or disproved in this life.


Our dog is Dog.



duke wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 06:13:38 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 05:19:02 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > duke wrote: > But a Catholic obeys dogma, which is truth revealed by God. At least a muslim > or a hindu or an agnostic or a non-religious are not atheists looking forward to > the flames.

What happens if you die and you find out Jesus is half-black, because

Miriam was an Ethiopian Jew? You gonna call him Buckwheat?

Oh, noooooooooo. But, to make it easy, I might call him Denzel Washington or

Louis Gossett.

One time Moshe wanted to marry an Ethiopian, but she wasn't white enough

for Moshe's sister. God said, "I show you white" and gave her leprosy

for a week.


God doesn't give people leprosy. Moshe should have known that.


It's not like it was a locked-room mystery, Duke. There was a telltale cloud revealing God's hand in the dirty deed.

Numbers 12:10 And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.


J wrote:


One study reports 70% of homosexuals admitting to having sex only one

time with over 50% of their partners.


Such promiscuity. How the hell do lesbians know who the father of their baby is? Oh, wait...


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:



"Alan Ferris" <hairy.ferrit@yahoo.co.uk wrote in message

news:bprun7tn3o1lbi45aplua7tcbaiv1v3alj@4ax.com...


Woman dies a horrible death being burnt to death following lightning

strike....just another classic example of your gods love? or just

reality biting her in the but?


I was struck by lightning and had a vision which led to my conversion to

Fundamentalist Christianity.

Ellen Gould White was struck in the head by a stone when she was a little girl, and she had visions, and became the prophet of the Seventh Day Adventist Church.


HVAC wrote: On 4/6/2012 7:07 PM, vtcapo wrote: > >

https://picasaweb.google.com/vtcapo/NewAlbum814071042AM# >

Now let's see you get ugly. Opps, we already know that....



Let's all say it together..."DOUBLE EXPOSURE".


That's so 1850.


duke wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 06:47:30 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 05:26:39 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > duke wrote: > Oh, and btw, the Church founded by Jesus is the corrective follow-on to Judaism. >>

And Mormonism is the corrective follow-on to Catholicism.

They are not even Christians.

Which makes logical sense when Jews says Christians are not even Jews.


Christians are of the new covenant. The Jews are still into the old covenant.

Mormons are a no-show.


Mormons are of the new new covenant. Non-Mormons are a no-show.


Devils Advocaat wrote:


So as you can see there was no actual Christian Bible until the 4th

Century AD.

Gosh, think of all the Christians for three hundred years that went to hell because they never opened a Bible.


Alex W wrote:


I had always assumed that the genealogy was retroactively

composed by very much patriarchal Christians. Judging

descent by the female line also made sense to me in the

context of Jewish history: what with all the persecutions,

conquests, pogroms and other unpleasant episodes, it must

have been quite impossible to decide whether the bun in that

oven was put there by the Jewish husband or a band of raping

gentiles.

Molly Bolt is a sort of lesbian Huck Finn. One time her step-mother, Carrie, scolds her and tells her that she is bad because she is a bastard, Molly responds with, "I don't care. It makes no difference where I came from. I'm here, ain't I?"


Jason wrote:



I have already stated my opinion and it is above. I believe that sunlight

could come thru the canopy.

It can't even come through a thunderhead that looks like a cotton ball compared to the Astrodome.


Mike Painter wrote: >

Ex 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses

where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the

plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of

Egypt.


A god who needs blood to tell where not to kill, not smart enough to

know it without blood.

Oh, it's even better than that. Apparently, God faints at the sight of blood.

Exodus 4:

[24] And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the LORD met [Moses], and sought to kill him.

[25] Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.

[26] So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision.



HVAC wrote: On 4/7/2012 9:17 AM, duke wrote: > >

UN: A place where dictators opposed to free speech (Castro, Putin,

Ahmedinejad, Mugabe, Obama, Chavez, Kim Jong Un) demand to be heard. >

I love that line! >

It is good.


The Pope would like to address the UN too.


Well no one listens to him, certainly not Catholics, when he says birth control is evil, etc.


ThomMadura wrote:


Actually - "peer reviewed" is not a likely thing on usenet.

Well, if we piss all over your idea, consider it peer reviewed.


Mike Painter wrote: On 4/6/2012 5:45 PM, MarkA wrote:

<snip>


I bought some for tonight, the last meatless Friday until next lent. > >

Now THAT's rich, duke! NOWHERE in the Bible does it command you to avoid

eating meat on Fridays, however, it DOES tell you never to eat shrimp! I

guess the Word-O-God is more like "suggestions"? >

And what happened to all those Catholics who committed a mortal sin, ate

meat on Friday, and then died?

Review these slides:

http://hubblesite.org/gallery/album/the_universe

The Creator of the universe dropped what he was doing, created a torture chamber powered by exploding galaxies, and used it to burn those Friday Hot-Dog eating sinners.


JohnN wrote: On Monday, April 2, 2012 4:05:06 AM UTC-4, Warhol wrote:

  • Ball of light just passed over New Zealand


There's a ball of light passing over my house right now. I figure it will take another 8 or 9 hours to pass over and out of sight.


JohnN

When you see a ball of flying spaghetti get back to me.


Doc Smartass wrote:

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/04/07/atv-docks-with-

the-iss/


http://tinyurl.com/c3rsj4t


Amazing picture of Automated Transfer Vehicle firing thrusters to control

its approach to the International Space Station.


The ATV brings groceries and such to the lucky bastages up in space.



The astronaut's union hates it.



MarkA wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:46:37 -0700, J wrote:


His Holiness will not rest until the clergy once again places itself

beyond approach from sexual temptations.


When have they *EVER* done that?

Back in the Day, the reproachees did it by making the reproachers disappear.


Doc Smartass wrote:

raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com wrote in

news:8p4rn7hm4v14k8m9ausbekveq9cnbeli3g@4ax.com:


On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 02:27:42 -0500, Doc Smartass <FortbrickGeek@yahoobrick.com wrote: >

US4ZION <us4zion@gmail.com wrote in news:17fd1510-072a-4882-91b0-

4210317df205@v1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com: >

Subject: Science?

SCIENCE!!

Poetry in motion.


That was one of the first singles I ever bought--and one of the first

pop/rock songs I liked. Hard to believe it's almost 30 years ago =0


Cheesy 1983 synth pop.


MarkA wrote:



Every engineer knows that computer chips are powered by magic smoke.

There has NEVER been an observed case of the smoke getting out, and the

chip continues to function.


Sometimes the smoke gets out and I end up having to replace the chips. Surface mount ones are teensy, need a microscope to do it.


2938 Dead wrote:



Right wingers sometimes win revolutions. Hitler, Mussolini and Franco

all come to mind.

Are you sure Hitler was a righty? After all, he founded the national SOCIALIST party.


duke wrote:


1. Mankind has an mean streak that God asks us to show we can control.

2. All he asks is for us to try.

3. We win if we try even if we fail.


Do, or do not. There is no try.

"Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only." - James the Just


Father Haskell wrote: On Apr 7, 11:40 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com wrote:

Op 7-4-2012 16:29, HVAC schreef: > On 4/7/2012 10:17 AM, Warhol wrote:

Hah... My ancestors have invented Rockets and Missiles

You're a chinaman?

I am a Atlas Man...


Ah, yes. The incident on the beach involving the sand-kicking

bully.

Shrug::


duke wrote:

On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:44:13 -0700, "Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess" <goddess@fidemturbare.com wrote:


On 2012-Apr-06 08:41, duke wrote:

>

My favorite - creation of the universe - something form nothing into

nothingness.

How does that prove the existence of your deity?


Evidence.


Babies are evidence of storks.


duke wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 08:54:21 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

"So the Lord changed His mind about the harm which He said He would do

to His people." Exodus 32:14 NASB

Or so some writer put it. He didn't know that God surpasses all time. >

If we can't trust the Bible to teach truth why the hell do you keep

falling back on it?


I don't have a problem. Why do you?

I don't trust the Bible. You do, except where you don't.


HVAC wrote: On 4/7/2012 11:55 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:



Should black children go Michele Jackson? Nose job.Bleach their skin

white,and speak like Obama.? That way they can wear a hoddy,and stay

alive in Severn Trent Florida. Whites in Severn Trent America need

only goose step,and keep their mouth's shut to stay alive. Severn

Trent gets stronger as old people die,and less people remember the

days when America was a democracy. I predict the Statue of Liberty

will not shine in NYC harbor. Its copper sent to China. Easy

prediction as my America got to be a fascist system TreBert



Bert: Did you know it currently costs the US Treasury 1.8 cents to make

a penny?


Another famous urban legend: Drop a penny off the Empire State Building and it will embed itself in the concrete of the sidewalk below.


duke wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:24:24 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

God help America if he gets reelected.

I thought God picked him.


No, buckwheat is a muslim Kenyan.


Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there

is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.


I see. So Romans 13 is another part of the Bible you don't believe.


2938 Dead wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 09:48:46 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


2938 Dead wrote: > >

Right wingers sometimes win revolutions. Hitler, Mussolini and Franco

all come to mind.

Are you sure Hitler was a righty? After all, he founded the national

SOCIALIST party.


By that logic, the fact that Saddam Hussein was head of the Republican

Guard made him a member of the GOP.


Well, you might be on to something right there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-153210/Rumsfeld-helped-Iraq-chemical-weapons.html

US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld helped Saddam Hussein build up his arsenal of deadly chemical and biological weapons, it was revealed last night.

As an envoy from President Reagan 19 years ago, he had a secret meeting with the Iraqi dictator and arranged enormous military assistance for his war with Iran.

The CIA had already warned that Iraq was using chemical weapons almost daily. But Mr Rumsfeld, at the time a successful executive in the pharmaceutical industry, still made it possible for Saddam to buy supplies from American firms.

They included viruses such as anthrax and bubonic plague, according to the Washington Post.


John Manning wrote:



The most fundamental characteristic of the

U.S. economy today is the divide between the 1 percent and the

99 percent.


"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's." -- God


MelissA wrote:


Early Bible does not have concept of Hell at all...

Hell was invented much later...


Hell came in with the Greeks, and their Tartarus.


cvillarim@terra.com.br wrote:


Jesus also warned against the accumulation of wealth on several other occasions.


In Matthew 6:19 he says "do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth", and a few verses later, in Matthew 6:24, he says "You cannot serve both God and Money".


So we gotta help the 1% follow Jesus by taking from the 1% and giving to the 99%. Check.


RichTravsky wrote: linuxgal wrote: Jason wrote:

When Satan told Eve that "you shall be as gods...." That was a lie. > >

What was false about it, since the serpent narrowed the godlike property

he was talking about to merely knowing the difference between good and evil?


It certainly sets the bar low to be a god.


Notice the plural use, "gods"...

The early Hebrews were henotheists. A vestige of this is seen in the "sin" of idolatry, which survived even into the New Testament era. If there's really only one God, there's no way to "cheat" on him with other gods, no?


Liberal Here wrote:


Economists can trace Bush 1/2's policies and legislation to the

consequences we see today. You, OTOH, can only imply similar mappings

to Obama.

Who's Bush One-Half? Shrub?


Garrett wrote:

On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 00:08:32 +0000 (UTC), 2938 Dead <dead@gone.com> wrote:


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/07/war-drugs-latin-american-

leaders >

'War on drugs' has failed, say Latin American leaders >

Watershed summit will admit that prohibition has failed, and call for

more nuanced and liberalised tactics


War on Drugs was the stupidest thing our government ever did. All

it did was enrich drug dealers in American and Latin America.

Ironically, as part of the War on Terror, our soldiers are defending certain warlord's poppy fields in Asscrackistan.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:


Secondly, the word "socialist" has NOTHING to do with "socialism"


Words mean things, as El Rushbo often says.


lsrlts wrote: On 4/7/2012 11:21 AM, Liberal Here wrote:

a reichtard


a libitard

A pox on both houses, as we Libertarians always say.


max headroom wrote:

  • US * <* US *

wrote in news:jv61o7lik756t9t9nv9ena97l3ejb58pmk@4ax.com:


Not only is he a bully and a liar, it turns out he's a Democrat!


He's a murderer.


Bully, liar, murderer, Democrat... same morals.




Democrats:

Limousine liberalism, Euro-socialism, atheism, secular humanism, communism, dope, underage prostitutes...What a "party"!!


mind wrote: TibetanMonkey wrote:


I'm seeing the glass half empty,


Progress means good.

Good implies bad or not-good.

Where there is plus there is minus.

When something is gained, something is lost.

Gaining is not permanent, losing is not permanent, but the cycle of gaining and losing is permanent.


duke wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 07:49:12 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


HVAC wrote: On 4/7/2012 9:17 AM, duke wrote: > UN: A place where dictators opposed to free speech (Castro, Putin, > Ahmedinejad, Mugabe, Obama, Chavez, Kim Jong Un) demand to be heard. > I love that line!

It is good.

The Pope would like to address the UN too.


Well no one listens to him, certainly not Catholics, when he says birth

control is evil, etc.


How would you know? And what do you understand about it? You sound like one of

those cafeteria people that will read the bible and accept this but not that.

That's rich, Duke. Every time I throw out a proof text opposing one of

 your claims, your counter-claim is that the writer of that passage 

didn't know what he was talking about.


MelissA wrote:

On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 05:31:25 -0700 (PDT) BroilJAB <DesignDenier@wmconnect.com wrote:


The atheists loathe and FEAR the Cross.

They should do.


Cross is torture device...


Even Jesus said "let this cup pass from me" when he was thinking about the cross.


BroilJAB wrote:

Latest reports show that the Holy Church

is expanding exponentially into areas

once closed to them. Just this week,

Castro was forced to abandon atheism

and embrace the holiday Easter.

Forced. Truly the spirit of Easter.


Alan Ferris wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 06:20:27 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:


God tells them to bomb women and children in the marketplace?

They believe he does, just like you believe that he talks to you.

Yet they act in violation of his teachings when they bomb women and children in

the marketplace and give him credit. **We** follow his teachings.


So why do Christians bomb civilians?


Abortion doctors are sub-human to Christians.


BroilJAB wrote:

I met Glenn Beck at a rally. I'm normal height

at around 6 2, but Beck towered over me.

Michael Moore is at least a foot shorter and

70 IQ pts below.

He makes up for that by being six feet wide.


duke wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 06:18:54 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 07:22:15 +1000, "Andrew W" <remove_ajwerner@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >

Yet you pretended all this time that you had God's words. You even claimed

that God talks to you everyday.

Appalling.

It's wonderful.

What celebrity does God sound like?


God.


So George Burns then.


duke wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 06:20:40 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

>

God doesn't give people leprosy. Moshe should have known that.


It's not like it was a locked-room mystery, Duke. There was a telltale

cloud revealing God's hand in the dirty deed.


None the less, God doesn't give people leprosy.


Numbers 12:10 And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and,

behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon

Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.


Perhaps it's time for you to understand the lesson associated with questioning

God's judgment. Being angry with them, God left them and then she developed

leprosy.

Being angry with Carlo Rizzi, Michael Corleone left him and then Carlo developed asphyxia. In the car. With the Sicilian Rope.


duke wrote:



But God's love is directed to life eternal, not for a few years now. Remember,

this is your time of trial to declare your desires - eternal with God or eternal

with satan.

I'll take what is behind curtain number three.


duke wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 10:15:10 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:24:24 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > duke wrote: > God help America if he gets reelected.

I thought God picked him.

No, buckwheat is a muslim Kenyan. >

Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there

is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

I see. So Romans 13 is another part of the Bible you don't believe.


I am subject to God above. But God doesn't require that I watch buckwheat

further ruin my country.

The powers that be are ordained of God. That means Buck O'Fama is his anointed one.


cvillarim@terra.com.br wrote:


Rigging the system to bleed the middle class and the poor to further increase the wealth of the rich [aka, *cutting* the taxpayer's benefits who paid into Social Security and Medicare for when they're old, sick or disabled - and *cutting* unemployment i

nsurance (that THEY PAID FOR by payroll deduction} to give massive billion dollar subsidies to Big Oil, and multiple loophole tax breaks for corporations and obscene tax cuts for the wealthy - and passing laws to make it easy for those wealthy to buy legi

slators and have them write self-serving legislation into law - seems to be okay with you clueless nitwit "Christian" hypocrites who worship Mammon instead of God.


If I worshiped Mammon why would I preach "thou shalt not covet" ?


Syd M. wrote:

On Apr 8, 1:25 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com wrote: >

You'll think empty when Jesus Christ punches you in the face and lynches you

with His halo.


<Yawn I'm not scared, Zachy.

Yer threats are like yer head, empty.


Jesus used to pick cotton on our farm.

He had two brothers: Jesus, and Jesus.

I remember them well.

From Ensenora, I believe.


MarkA wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 01:06:46 -0500, Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:


>

"MarkA" <someone@somewhere.invalid wrote in message

news:pan.2012.04.08.03.19.32.307648@somewhere.invalid... On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 15:30:31 -0700, BroilJAB wrote: >

We know He was killed.

We know He was Resurrected.

We even found his brother's Ossuary.

It was Colonel Mustard in the Library with the candlestick!

You think it's funny to mock God but in the end you'll be sorry you did.


No, I think it's funny to mock assholes like you, and your belief in God.

You need to pay closer attention.


He needs to realize that we're mocking HIM, not God.


duke wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 10:11:04 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

1. Mankind has an mean streak that God asks us to show we can control.

2. All he asks is for us to try.

3. We win if we try even if we fail. >

Do, or do not. There is no try.


Jesus alone avoided sin.

Actually, no, he screwed the pooch at least one time:

"Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." -- Jesus

"Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?" -- Jesus


duke wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 10:12:19 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:44:13 -0700, "Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess" <goddess@fidemturbare.com wrote: > On 2012-Apr-06 08:41, duke wrote: > > My favorite - creation of the universe - something form nothing into > nothingness.

How does that prove the existence of your deity?

Evidence.


Babies are evidence of storks.


Only for children 0-4 years of age.


You said Genesis 1-11 is fictional myth, but everything after that is true. Numbers 22 features a talking ass.

Ass: "What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?"

Balaam: "Because thou hast mocked me: I would there were a sword in mine hand, for now would I kill thee."

Ass: "Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee?"

Balaam: "Nay."

Stories about talking asses are basically stork stories for USENET posting asses.


duke wrote:


God, version 1.0, is perfect.

A perfect God would be able to do something about iron chariots.

Judges 1:19 And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.


HVAC wrote:


First of all, since the big bang began all space and all

time, saying anything about space or time before the big

bang is both illogical and a misnomer.


When you come in to England from the Atlantic, the country starts at Land's End. That's a brute fact of geography. Same thing with space time. No explanation required.


Rockinghorse Winner wrote:

  • It may have been the liquor talking, but

Smiler <Youmustbe@JoeKing.com wrote:


On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 20:16:42 +0100, Andromedus wrote: >

Zero, as I've never had a supposed god to lose.

I've been an atheist since birth.


On the contrary. You walk around with God constantly - God takes up 80% of

your label. In fact, without God, atheism would not exist. :)


Naw, we could still be atheistic towards Zeus, just like you.


Jason wrote:

In article <idednbfbjrJf3x3SnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Devils Advocaat wrote: >

So as you can see there was no actual Christian Bible until the 4th

Century AD.

Gosh, think of all the Christians for three hundred years that went to

hell because they never opened a Bible.


There were preachers of the gospel even in those days.


Ever hear of the Telephone Game?


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:

No. Hell cannot be scientifically proven.

It can be scientifically disproven. Eventually the second law of thermodynamics will smooth out all thermal gradients long before "eternity" even gets started, and the ambient temps in that epoch will be just a hair above absolute zero.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:



"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwdjsd@NOSPAMpacbell.net wrote in message

news:hlwdjsd-5D6BEF.15404807042012@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...

In article

<831bc278-06d5-4c0d-a1ba-b120821979dd@n5g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>, BroilJAB <DesignDenier@wmconnect.com wrote: >

Id rather have JESUS than anything. >

Prove it. >

No food. No water. Just your JESUS. >

Report back to us a few times each day, letting us know how well JESUS

is sustaining you.


I told you that Jesus Christ doesn't work that way. He doesn't do

parlor tricks.

What about the water-into-wine thing?


Mitchell Holman wrote:


   I have pointed out this pantheon of gods issue

with Jason before, he dimissed it as a "translation

error" as I recall.


I'm glad we have Rabbi Jason with us to decide such things.



HVAC wrote: On 4/8/2012 11:13 AM, linuxgal wrote: HVAC wrote: >

First of all, since the big bang began all space and all

time, saying anything about space or time before the big

bang is both illogical and a misnomer. > >

When you come in to England from the Atlantic, the country starts at

Land's End. That's a brute fact of geography. Same thing with space

time. No explanation required.



Point of order: Then why did you explain it?



To explain that the beginning of time needs not prior explanation. It's just there, like Mt. Everest.


duke wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 06:48:29 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: >

But God's love is directed to life eternal, not for a few years now. Remember,

this is your time of trial to declare your desires - eternal with God or eternal

with satan.

I'll take what is behind curtain number three.


Only 2 curtains. You're in trouble.

That's Bush-speak. "Yer either with me or yer with Qaeda."


duke wrote: On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 23:29:12 +0200, MelissA <melis@a.com wrote:


On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:15:27 -0500 duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote: >

There are no apes in heaven.


There is no heaven...


God said there is. So I'm going with him.


Pioneer 10, 11, and Voyager 1 and 2 haven't returned any data from there.


duke wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:01:45 -0600, Uirgil <uirgil@uirgil.ur wrote:


In article <oab1o751jjdevhqs2tf3ihb40a57lfp963@4ax.com>, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote: >

If "Satanville" is a synonym for Hell, then your criteria automatically

excludes all atheists.

It's specifically designed for people like you.

Nope! It will only accept, if anyone at all, those who believe in it.


Nope, it will only accept people that don't believe in God

Mere belief isn't good enough. James the Just pointed out at even the devils believe, and shudder. A racist attitude like yours (calling Obama a "black rat") would disqualify you, no matter how much you believe.

1 John 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?


Under Obama, every American is entitled to earn a six-figure salary. What he doesn't tell you is there's a decimal point involved. But don't worry, Obama will only tax wealthy Americans.

Make five figures? Congratulations! You're rich!

Money talks. Democrats in Washington think your money is telling them, "Spend Me"



default wrote:


The whole Catholic persecution thing is in the minds of the Vatican's

old boy's club. They've been getting away with murder for centuries

and when some special treatment stops they cry "persecution."


"Droids don't pull people's arms out of their sockets when they lose. Catholics have been known to do that."

"I suggest a new strategy Artoo. Let the Catholics win."


DrivingTheLibsCrazy wrote: On Apr 8, 1:11 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: duke wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 06:48:29 -0700, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: duke wrote: > But God's love is directed to life eternal, not for a few years now. Remember, > this is your time of trial to declare your desires - eternal with God or eternal > with satan.

I'll take what is behind curtain number three.

Only 2 curtains. You're in trouble.

That's Bush-speak. "Yer either with me or yer with Qaeda."


Well, he is right. You either believe or you do not.

Those who choose to ignore will pay the price.

Well, I'll be in good company with all those pre-Columbian members of First Nations that didn't believe the crap either.


lsrlts wrote: On 4/8/2012 10:29 AM, Gary DW wrote:

You will believe ANYTHING won't you??


States Receiving Least in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes

Paid:


   1. New Jersey ($0.62)
   2. Connecticut ($0.64)
   3. New Hampshire ($0.68)
   4. Nevada ($0.73)


So let's see, we've got three tiny, heavily urbanized, eastern states

and one big empty out west making it's nut off of gambling revenues...

That big housing boom gamble in Nevada came up snake eyes.


First. Post wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 10:44:04 -0700, lsrlts <dddrr@gnail.invalid wrote:


On 4/8/2012 10:29 AM, Gary DW wrote:

You will believe ANYTHING won't you??

States Receiving Least in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid: >

   1. New Jersey ($0.62)
   2. Connecticut ($0.64)
   3. New Hampshire ($0.68)
   4. Nevada ($0.73)

>

So let's see, we've got three tiny, heavily urbanized, eastern states

and one big empty out west making it's nut off of gambling revenues... >

Shocking I tells ya, just shocking!


Don't forget, Jersey also has casinos.

The Bada Bing doesn't count, it's only for Friends of Ours.


Bret Cahill wrote:

conservatives are conservatives:


And these "conservatives" are bat crap insane.


Naw, moonbats refer to libs.


Möebius Pretzel wrote:

Monsanto’s Roundup Altering the Physical Shape of Amphibians


Monsanto’s Roundup, which is the most popular herbicide used today, has

been found to ignite morphological changes in amphibians.


The research, conducted using tadpoles, found that environmentally

relevant concentrations of Roundup are enough to cause two species of

amphibians to actually change shape.

Supersized orders of fries have caused Michael Moore to change into a round shape.


That's precisely the problem!


... roll back Obama's Communist Reorganization of American Politics

(CRAP for short)

Obama's commie-loving appointees are really starting to Hanoi me now.

Liberalism is just Communism without the firing squad...yet. Liberals really got what it takes to take what you got. The light at the end of the Obama tunnel is a "Civilian National Security Corps" red-shirt muzzle flash.


BV BV wrote:

THE QUR'AN AND MODERN SCIENCE

Extracted from the Book

The Bible, The Qur'an and Science

Maurice Bucaille

02:58, 14 April 2012 (UTC)02:58, 14 April 2012 (UTC)02:58, 14 April 2012 (UTC)02:58, 14 April 2012 (UTC)02:58, 14 April 2012 (UTC)Selah

ASTRONOMY IN THE QUR'AN


The Qur'an is full of reflections on the heavens.

Yeah, it says the sun sets in a mud puddle far in the west.


It's a competition to see who can drive fastest while constantly turning left.


2938 Dead wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 19:10:38 +0000, Dänk 42Ø wrote:


On 2012-04-06 23:40, 2938 Dead quacked:

http://www.readersupportednews.org/news-section2/317-65/10825-focus-

keith-

olbermann-files-50m-lawsuit-against-current-tv >

Keith Olbermann Files 50M Lawsuit Against Current TV ...

The talk show host claims he may be owed in excess of $70 million, and

that the mismanagement at Current has damaged its value. He has an

ownership stake in the network, according to the case.

I'll bet he can buy a lot of car elevators for $70 million.


Like your hero Mittens, you mean?


Newty would want moon buggy elevators.


George Plimpton wrote:


"Subject to the jurisdiction" means owing full and exclusive allegiance

to the US. As the US-born children of tourists and illegal border

jumpers do not owe that allegiance, therefore they are not born citizens.

"Welcome to America, here's your first payment."


George Plimpton wrote:


States trying to make it a state issue may well get a case before the

court that will ultimately undo our judicially imposed birthright

citizenship nonsense.

Kenya, as one of the 57 States, has the constitutional right to issue proof of US Citizenship to people born there.


BroilJAB wrote:

Dawkins claimed a month back he knows

there are 'god-like creatures'. Yet not even

one evolutionist dares to step forward and

demand Dawkins PROVE this 'scientific

pronouncement'.

Proof is for math.

The math of your Noah theory doesn't pan out. The atmosphere can hold approximately one inch of water in vapor form, not 5.5 miles of it.


.MattB. wrote:


  So this explains why when entering a section 8 area it is full of

trash and graffiti .Why? Liberals think someone need to clean up

their trash because they are owed.

If your commune smells like a garbage dump because of your commitment to recycling, you might be a Democrat.


Richard Steel wrote:

Keith Olbermann Files 50M Lawsuit Against Current TV ...

The talk show host claims he may be owed in excess of $70 million, and

that the mismanagement at Current has damaged its value. He has an

ownership stake in the network, according to the case.


I'll bet he can buy a lot of car elevators for $70 million.


Like your hero Mittens, you mean?


Mitt Romney actually saved businesses, and created jobs.

If corporations are people, the Mittens is a serial killer.


BroilJAB wrote:

The world can only be rationally comprehensible

if it is the product of irrational forces.

You say irrational forces like that's a bad thing.


THE BORG wrote:


Because humans sin and do wrong, they are "tested".

If God is all-seeing and all-knowing, why does he have to test you to find out what you will do?


Richard Steel wrote:

Newty would want moon buggy elevators.


Actually, there is talk of building an elevator to outer space.


It's part of the Americans with Disabilities Act. We are also building a wheelchair ramp up the front side of Half Dome.


.MattB. wrote:


 They should because Obama and Chavez are much alike.  Obama's

contempt for the SC the latest clue.


Obama, Chavez & Castro - The Marxist Brothers


Liberal Rule #1: Socialist policies aren't working? Blame Bush

Liberal Rule #2: George Will is stupid. Hugh Hewitt is stupid. Nancy Pelosi is smart. Harry Reid is smart.

Liberal Rule #3: Break all the promises you want. Voters are stupid, and you can count on the victim class to always vote "D"

Liberal Rule #4: Raising taxes on our most productive people while giving cash payouts to the least productive helps GROW the economy

Liberal Rule #5: Carefully stage all "impromptu" town meetings and bring a TelePrompTer to "debates".

Liberal Rule #6: When faced with actual facts about global "warming", call them lies by liars in the pay of Big Oil

Liberal Rule #7: Label all conservative Christians "Radical Right-Wing Fundamentalist Bible-Thumping Gun-Clinging Teabaggers"

Liberal Rule #8: Caucasian = Racist

Liberal Rule #9: Tax all you want, just give it a different name, like "user fees" or "investment contributions"

Liberal Rule #10: Can't refute the message? Call the messenger a racist bigot


dolf wrote:

Well hello little girl. Have you met my friend, Rufus?


Jew wanna play rough? Okay! Say hay-LO to my leetle friend!


duke wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:31:40 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote:


On 4/8/2012 9:12 AM, duke wrote: >

Well no one listens to him, certainly not Catholics, when he says birth

control is evil, etc.

How would you know? And what do you understand about it? You sound like one of

those cafeteria people that will read the bible and accept this but not that. >

So then you're all good with god sanctioning, and even ordering,

the murder of babies? Nice.


Where did God do that?


In the, you know, Torah.

Deuteronomy 20:16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth: But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.


Smiler wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 00:20:42 -0500, Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:


The soul has "nerves"


There's zero evidence for any supposed soul and even less evidence that a

soul has "nerves". Until you provide some evidence, apart from your

beliefs, for their existence, I don't believe you.

Best for a case of nerves is a case of beer.


Smiler wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 08:05:34 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


duke wrote:

God, version 1.0, is perfect.

A perfect God would be able to do something about iron chariots. >

Judges 1:19 And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the

inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of

the valley, because they had chariots of iron.


We're safe in our cars, then!


I don't brake for deities.


Davej wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2126957/Homophobes-attracted-sex-study-finds.html


"Homophobes could be attracted to people of the same sex but are not

admitting it to themselves, a series of psychology studies has found.


In other news, the rates of teen pregnancy have been found drop sharply after age 19.


Jeanne Douglas wrote:

In article <k8OdnQzd8vUGWR3SnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@giganews.com>,

linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com

wrote:


John Manning wrote: >

The most fundamental characteristic of the

U.S. economy today is the divide between the 1 percent and the

99 percent. >

"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy

neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox,

nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's." -- God



There's no coveting involved. That's not the issue at all.


The issue is that the system is unfair at its core, with 2 different

sets of rules. If people get rich following the same reason as the

rest of us, more power to them. But if they don't get punished for

cheating and breaking the rules, damn straight we should be mad at

them.

I don't get mad at them. Good for them.

To be free of debt is to be rich enough.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 11:46:08 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


... roll back Obama's Communist Reorganization of American Politics


"he who does not work, shall not eat"


Does that sound like a republican mantra, or a democratic mantra?


Guess who said it?

St. Paul, and it was a rule he set for himself and for his traveling buddies. Context is always important.

2 Thessalonians 3:

[7] For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;

[8] Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:

[9] Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.

[10] For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 13:36:08 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Liberal Rule #4: Raising taxes on our most productive people while

giving cash payouts to the least productive helps GROW the economy


The wealth class is NOT productive. Not since the 80's.

What a terrible life you are in for, if you are made angry by the sight of a man with more possessions than you. For this will make you perpetually angry.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:


Liberal Rule #8: Caucasian = Racist


That would be a historical Fact.


The collectivist impulse is to assign attributes to people based on their group identity, ignoring the fact that all human beings are individuals with free will.


First. Post wrote:


I was taught how to shoot a pistol at the age of 6. It was a little S&W .22.

My grandfather was the one that taught me. The first thing he showed me was a

(back in 1963) a glass Coke bottle filled with water and red food coloring. He

shot it with the pistol and then explained how that would be what would happen

if I ever pointed it and shot and anything living, like another person.

In 48 years I've never had so much as a close call with a gun thanks to his

lessons.

Liberals, put your gun control theories to the test: walk down Pennsylvania Avenue at 3 AM. There IS safety in numbers. For example .357, .44, .45...gun control is being able to put 2 bullets through the same hole. Body Piercing by Colt. We don't need child-proof gun trigger locks. We need a liberal proof Congress.


HVAC wrote:

O >

It's either all or nothing. God doesn't play favorites. This life is

our

declaration time - God or satan.



I choose neither. I am a free man.


You are Number Six.


On Apr 9, 1:39 pm, "skyey...@yahoo.com" <skyey...@yahoo.com wrote:


And, I might add, want to be able to *ridicule* them for not being

paid well, being educated, and having unhealthy children.

I can't tell how well people are paid or how their children are faring just from their USENET posts, but I can certainly tell if they are poorly educated, and you better believe I will ridicule them. If they don't like it they shouldn't sit at the table with the top guns.


John Manning wrote: On 4/8/2012 9:51 PM, Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 13:36:08 -0700, linuxgal<linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: >

Liberal Rule #1: Socialist policies aren't working? Blame Bush >

There are none. Bush is to blame for 6,000 deaths, 9,000,000 lost

jobs, $8 Trillion debt, $3 Trillion deficit, and two wars. >

Iraq War Benefit #1: The US has a good ally with the world's 2nd largest oil reserves just when the rate of oil production is peaking.

Iraq War Benefit #2: The US military is now positioned between Iran and Israel, & can reach out to thump Syria at any time, if needed.

Iraq War Benefit #3: Iraq is no longer a threat to the region. There will be no Iraqi participation in the next Arab- Israeli war.

Iraq War Benefit #4: Iraq is the second real democracy (after Israel) to take root in the Middle-east.

Iraq War Benefit #5: The Marsh Arabs have their land again, and the Kurds aren't sucking mustard gas anymore.

Iraq War Benefit #6: Saddam is gone, along with his two spermazoid sons.

Iraq War Benefit #7: No shoot downs in the "no fly zone" and parading a beaten and raped female US Air Force captain on al-Jizzeera.


Jeanne Douglas wrote: US4ZION wrote:


Re-read the 1st amendment. I believe you have a faulty view.


Yet another of your beliefs that's total bollocks.



I'm saying that our Chistian founding fathers left room for Catholics,

Mormons, Wiccans as well as atheist... to express their views.


Well, sure. But that doesn't mean they can force their views on those

of us who don't share them.

Which religion has a book that says thou shalt not suffer the practicioners of the other religion to live? I forget.


emoneyjoe wrote:

On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 11:24:15 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa@HotMail.com> wrote:


"linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in message

news:HaGdnVTKK-FJ1eLSnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@giganews.com... RD Sandman wrote:

Where in hell did this twit get the idea that Martin's girlfriend had a

recorded call? All that was recorded was the time and duration of the

cal, not what occurred on it. >

What does any of this Zimmerman shit have to do with atheism? >

Well, the idiots ignoring the available facts and going purely on faith that

Zimmerman is guilty are definitely candidates for your group

  After all both theists and atheists operate on faith.


        Do you think a 6' teenager with a pocket full

of skittles should be able to outrun a short hispanic?


If he was smart, he would have drop the skittles on the ground and let Z Man trip on them like a Bond villain's henchman.


THE BORG wrote:

Because there are women drivers.

Simple as that.

Women should NOT drive cars.

The Muslims are correct and the way they treat their women

is correct.

Women SHOULD be covered up and not allowed to expose naked

flesh.


Women should not play guitar.

Tina Weymouth of the Talking Heads is pretty damn good.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote:


Ha ha! Oneupmanship! You just wait and see what happens when China

lands its astronauts on the moon -- they might even put on a special

"space fireworks" show from there for the world to see (I think that

would definitely be interesting to see).

No one remembers the second man on the Moon. No one cares about the second country on the Moon.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote:


Having "alt.religion.anti-atheism" would be useful because those who

attack atheism for being anti-theist can simply be directed to post in

the correct newsgroup

Yeah, well Richard Stallman insists everyone call it GNU/Linux, not just Linux, and everyone pats him on the head and says, "Sure, Dick."


duke wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 08:05:34 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

God, version 1.0, is perfect.

A perfect God would be able to do something about iron chariots.


What was his problem with iron chariots?


He couldn't drive out the folks who had them.


Alan Ferris wrote:

>

As you are not a draft dodger like Puke then clearly no.


Duke is DD214 challenged? Do tell.


Patrick wrote:

"Alan Ferris" <hairy.ferrit@yahoo.co.uk wrote

The Catholic Church in the Netherlands castrated at least 10 boys in the

1950s to cure them of their homosexuality,


Name two of them.

Any two.



Left ball and right ball.


Devils Advocaat wrote:

>

Is this the pottery battery that used grape juice as its electrolyte?


Or was it "grape juice plus"?

Zira!


duke wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 14:10:47 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

>

Where did God do that? >

In the, you know, Torah.


Deuteronomy 20:16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD

thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing

that breatheth: But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the

Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the

Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.


We now know that such commands are not in accordance with what God had later to

say about loving one another as he loves us. This tells us that God never did

tell them to kill everyone, although they thought he had and specifically was

their God only. And so they recorded.


When you tell me God will send me to hell if I miss Mass, then my standing reply is that such commands are not in accordance with how we understand that God is love. This tells us that God never did tell us we are going to hell, although you thought he did, and specifically, this was your God only. And so you posted.


Brian E. Clark wrote:

In article <XnsA02FE333F64D1askifyouwantit@

216.196.121.131>, FortbrickGeek@yahoobrick.com says...


After seeing the END of the movie, with that creepy "we're all happy

now that we're dead" scene, I have to admit that I agree with Kate

Winslet.

Dammit, don't spoil it! I've only seen it once and forgot how it ends :(


Last time 'round it ended with fifteen months of horror,

with Celine Dion's demoniac shrieking bursting forth from

the loudspeakers at every store and restaurant, till at

last the Titanic phenomenon sank beneath the waves.


Even Kate Winslet hates that damnable song. :)

Ranks right up there with "You Light Up My Life" and "Mandy"


BroilJAB wrote:

So all newcomers....why not start reading

the most important Book in the World.

It only takes 20-30 minutes a day

I already read the Anarchist's Cookbook back in the 70s.


THE BORG wrote:

There is a story of a very devout Muslim.

Anyhow one day he eats this bacon sandwich and it is so delicious he

immediately becomes an atheist.

I heard the same story, except it was a Vegan.


THE BORG wrote:

We have had word from the Collective mind that women will NEVER be as

evolved as men.

They will always be inferior second rate citizens.


God made up for that by making us capable of multiple orgasms.


duke wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 11:25:19 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


DrivingTheLibsCrazy wrote: On Apr 8, 1:11 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: duke wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 06:48:29 -0700, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: duke wrote: > But God's love is directed to life eternal, not for a few years now. Remember, > this is your time of trial to declare your desires - eternal with God or eternal > with satan. > I'll take what is behind curtain number three. > Only 2 curtains. You're in trouble.

That's Bush-speak. "Yer either with me or yer with Qaeda."

Well, he is right. You either believe or you do not.

Those who choose to ignore will pay the price.

Well, I'll be in good company with all those pre-Columbian members of

First Nations that didn't believe the crap either.


For those that didn't know, it's still living the right life.

Christ's blood will atone for the sins of everyone who fell by the transgression of Adam and died not knowing the will of God concerning them. But woe to those who know the will of God and still die in their sins, because salvation only comes to them if they repent. That means the best strategy is to close one's ears to the "gospel" completely, because then you'll die in ignorance and be saved under Plan A, while Plan B requires one to renounce sin.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:

"Calvin Ramsey" <calramsey@hotmail.com wrote in message

news:jltus2$s7r$1@speranza.aioe.org...

This from someone who disbelieves in the Trinity.

You may not even know it yet, but your words are worthless.


The Bible is clear that Jesus Christ is the One god and there are no

others. There is no mention of a "Trinity" in the Bible. What the fox

Christians call a "godhead" is really the three states of Jesus Christ

Texas, Mississippi, and South Carolina.


Jason wrote:



Yes, because God has NOT created programmed robots but instead has created

mankind so that he can have fellowship with some of those people that want

to have fellowship with him such as Billy Graham and Jack Hayford and many

other excellent ministers and missionaries and various other people such

as Paul.


But he's gotta look at Tammy Faye Bakker and Jan Crouch for all eternity.


SkyEyes wrote:

Just thought I'd say "Hope you all had a nice, godless day!"


May the force of gravity, the strong and weak nuclear forces, and the electromagnetic force bless you.



Man_Of_Mind wrote:

Slapped_raw whined piteously with: >

bvd's writhed in denials:

..

Careful, he'll accuse you of "gaslighting" him next... >

Oh no, not that! Anything but that!!


Nobody expects the Spammish Inquisition!...

NOBODY expects the Swinish Influenza!


Old Pif wrote:

>

Democracy per se is not a panacea. The Romans and the Greeks had

switched to autocratic rules after several centuries of democracy. It

looks like as all human institution democracy as well needs to be

reset from time to time when it stops addressing the needs of 99%.

If you are calling for ripping up the Constitution then you've got sworn enemies.


TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote: On Apr 9, 10:26 am, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com wrote:

There's something I can do

today and that's to ride a bicycle and be conscious of what I eat or

use. Tell you what, I won't drive a car today. >


I feel your pain. I understand your concern.

Have you considered suicide?


Riding a bike often amounts to a suicidal mission.

The words "suicide" and "often" don't go well together.


Sid9 wrote:


"lsrlts" <dddrr@gnail.invalid wrote in message

news:jlv1fe$4tq$12@dont-email.me... On 4/9/2012 6:52 AM, Alan Ferris wrote:

Most of the citizens of our Nation are Christian.

>

>Damn dude... that is basic logic...

So why do the majority of them not bother to attend church? >

Christ doesn't live in a church, does He?


What's his address?

Jail. That's where everyone seems to find him.


Father Haskell wrote: On Apr 9, 11:39 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com wrote:

do now the same experiment with a rocket... in vacuum there nothing to

push against...


Front of the combustion chamber.

Law of conservation of linear momentum. If you sit on an ice sled on a frozen lake with a stack of bricks on your sled, and throw the bricks away very fast, your sled will move in the opposite direction, even when there's nothing for the bricks to push against.


Jason wrote:


They used an older version of the King James Bible.


Old School KJV is a little hard for Walmart-shopping Bible-belt morons to read:

The Lord is my shepheard, I shall not want. He maketh me to lie downe in greene pastures: he leadeth mee beside the still waters. He restoreth my soule: he leadeth me in the pathes of righteousnes, for his names sake. Yea though I walke through the valley of the shadowe of death, I will feare no euill: for thou art with me, thy rod and thy staffe, they comfort me. Thou preparest a table before me, in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oyle, my cuppe runneth ouer. Surely goodnes and mercie shall followe me all the daies of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for euer.



Eddie Haskell wrote:

>

The founders were on the far right in today's terms. In fact, they would be

tea partiers today. That's something you don't seem to comprehend.


Paul Revere'd the right to bear arms, do you?


Rockinghorse Winner wrote:



The Democratic Party - the Party of No ... God


Christians want to serve God. Barack Obama wants to serve God as well, but only as an adviser.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:


c) Raygun sold arms to sworn enemies, propped up the worst dictators

on earth, lied to the American people, lied to congress , comitted

perjury (john pointdexter GJ deposition) and eventually was forced to

publicly admit it all. (he also praised Al Queada calling them the

"moral equivilant of the founding fathers", and rendering honors to SS

death camp guards)


Jesus Christ, Reagan is ancient history. You gonna bitch about Ike next?


Sid9 wrote:


"linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in message

news:R4Odne_7fd2uDx7SnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@giganews.com... Sid9 wrote: >

"lsrlts" <dddrr@gnail.invalid wrote in message >

Christ doesn't live in a church, does He? >

What's his address? >

Jail. That's where everyone seems to find him.

.

.

Football field end-zones, too....but only for the winners.


Apparently God hates Tebow, he ended up getting traded.


duke wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 06:52:24 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


The powers that be are ordained of God. That means Buck O'Fama is his

anointed one.


Then you aren't bright enough to understand that God created and then turned it

all over to evolution.

St. Paul made that infallible statement that God ordains secular leaders AFTER man evolved.


Mike Smith wrote:


Most of the citizens of our Nation are Christian.

A lot of Evangelicals would say Catholicism is a cult, and not even grant Catholics status as fellow Christians.


Billary wrote:

These guys don't represent me or my views. But I understand they they

intend to stand their ground if the shit hits the fan.

Kind of like Senator Larry Craig and his wide stance in the men's shitter at the airport.


Landis Ragon wrote:


Our dog is a cunning dog.

Q. What is the difference between Xena: Warrior Princess and Baywatch?

A. One is an impressive display of cunning stunts...



...grow up to be librals.

Don't let 'em eat tofu and drive them Smart Cars.

Make 'em be bankers and soldiers and such.


GSI wrote: >

This is where the "liberals" misunderstand the right.

The people huddling around Faux "News" WANT the rich to get richer.

I want rich people to get richer, and I want non-rich people to get richer too.


sully wrote:


That explains the attitude of some of the very rich, but

it doesn't explain the morons who aren't rich who vote

against their own self interests and especially against

the interests of their children.

Since I do not focus my life around envy for another person's possessions, how can it be in my own self-interest to vote against taking them away from them?


HVAC wrote:


Light propagates at c but can and does move far slower.

So it doesn't always travel at c.



It always travels at c in a vacuum.


John Baker wrote:


I particuarly hated those horrendously trite guy/girl duets that

polluted the airwaves through much of the '80s. If I never hear

'Islands In The Stream' or 'Leather And Lace' again, it'll be too

soon.


We got tonight, babe. Why don't you stay?


dolf wrote:

Wasn't 'Wow' something Steve Jobs choked on before he died?


When you step out of your air-conditioned car at Death Valley you go "Wow!"


Kent Wills wrote:


    I wonder if the proposed reality show for the girls will be

successful. Bob's attempt ended in glorious failure.


"This kind of demon only goes out when it gets crowded inside you, baby.

 Why don't you set those nice clothes on the floor?"


Jason wrote:


I live in California and have voted many times. I have never had to show

the voting officials my Driver's License. It must be a state law.


Nobody walks in L.A.



Doc Smartass wrote:

Randy Day <randy.day@sasktel.netx wrote in

news:MPG.29ecb42c9e2764299896ab@aioe.org:


In article <XnsA0303C2166A7askifyouwantit@216.196.97.131>,

FortbrickGeek@yahoobrick.com says... >

[snip] >

I went into Google Earth and put a placemark pin on you.

Is that the modern internet equivalent of

a voodoo doll?  ;)


Umbrella. That sun can get pretty hot down south.


Yes, but it's a wet heat.


Jason wrote:


Many of them have been stolen from hotel rooms. I don't know why people

would steal Bibles.

In the book of Mormon, God told Nephi to kill Laban for his copy of the ten commandments, so that when they went to the New World they would know not to do such things as covet and steal and kill.


sully wrote: On Apr 10, 4:10 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: GSI wrote: >

This is where the "liberals" misunderstand the right.

The people huddling around Faux "News" WANT the rich to get richer.

I want rich people to get richer, and I want non-rich people to get

richer too.


Yet you don't want non-rich kids to go to school unless their parents

are well-educated, motivated, hard working, and better than average

parents.

Non-rich kids can go to private school, just not on my nickel. I'm already on the hook paying for public school.


Smiler wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 17:34:39 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


Which religion has a book that says thou shalt not suffer the

practicioners of the other religion to live? I forget.


All of them.


I'm pretty sure Wicca don't.


Jeanne Douglas wrote:


When they own far more than 37% of the country's wealth, damn straight

they're not paying their fair share.

We don't tax on wealth, we tax on the increase of wealth. The delta.


WangoTango wrote:

In article <98SdnWDgqaBbPBnSnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,

jrobertm@terra.com.br says... >

It=3Fs A Myth That 47% Of Americans Pay No Taxes, In Truth 86% Pay Taxes >

    "The top 1% own 43% of the wealth
    but only pay 37% of income taxes."


Uh huh???

So 1% of the population pays 37% of the taxes and yet that isn't their

fair share? WOW!

Who cares how much wealth they have? That's nobodies business. The government only taxes on the annual increase of wealth.


Father Haskell wrote:


Haskell's Law -- any discussion about god turns into a

discussion about food given sufficient time.

John 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.


MarkA wrote:

I just saw a news report that Rick Santorum has suspended his campaign for

the GOP nomination, which pretty much guarantees that it will be Romney

facing Obama in the fall election.

Timing is everything. Rick getting out now assures he will picked for the Veep slot. If he stayed in, Mittens might have gotten perturbed.


Ben Kaufman wrote:

On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 20:54:09 +0000 (UTC), Budikka666 udikka1@netscape.net> <b> wrote:


http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2012/04/behes-malevolen.html >

Budikka


Did you see the book, "Intelligent Design for Dummies?"

Windows for Dummies is another redundant book title.


Brian E. Clark wrote:

In article <jl3i0h$vk1$1@dont-email.me>,

zachariasmulletstein@isalwaysright.com says...


When I point out that Neo had a

real body with a real brain, via which the aliens were

sending information about the virtual world comprising the

Matrix, I was met with a blank stare.

The Matrix wasn't real? I thought those movies were documentaries.


In your defense, Keanu Reeves is such a convincing actor

that it's hard to avoid that feeling of utmost reality.

Trinity: "Neo, I'm not afraid anymore. The Oracle told me that I would fall in love and that that man... the man that I loved would be The One. So you see, you can't be dead. You can't be... because I love you. You hear me? I love you."

Neo: "Whoa."



duke wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 17:49:03 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 08:05:34 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > duke wrote: > God, version 1.0, is perfect.

A perfect God would be able to do something about iron chariots.

What was his problem with iron chariots?


He couldn't drive out the folks who had them.


He didn't try to drive them out. Some other men tried to.


The Bible says "he" could not drive out the Hittites. Not "they". And the word "he" could not refer to the man Judah, who was long dead. Seriously, Duke, you should leave reading the Sacred Scripture to the professionals, like the Jebbies.

Judges 1:19 And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.


Phlip wrote:

Don't thank Him until he brings us a solidly Rep. House and Senate to

keep the socialist in check.


Maybe the stock market took a shit when they learned Romney will be

the GOP nominee.

Because that assures Obummer's re-election.


lsrlts wrote: On 4/10/2012 5:31 AM, Kirby Grant wrote:

Judicial activism occurs when conservative judges


Oh, not when LIBERAL judges do something?


Interesting...

There are no liberal judges, you see. Only far-right ones, and moderate ones.


NoBody wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:04:13 GMT, usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote:


Limbaugh to Leave AM Station in Philadelphia >

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2870138/posts


For an FM station...that's good news you dope.

Sound so crystal clear you can hear El Rushbo eating his Doritos.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:38:05 -0700 (PDT), Richard Steel <rsteel2525@aol.com wrote:


Hybrid owners unlikely to buy another one, study shows


Volt named car 'o the Year in Europe


Sold 3,000 just recently


I always love giving tax money to furriners.


Foxtrot wrote: 2938 Dead <dead@gone.com wrote:


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-10/santorum-suspending-bid-for-republican-nomination-person-says.html >

Santorum Suspending Bid for Republican Nomination, Person Says


Former Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania will announce today that he

is suspending his bid for the Republican Party’s presidential nomination,

a person close to the campaign said.


Good riddance, Moses. Republicans lose independents and libertarian

leaning conservatives when bible wavers like him gain power in the party.


And so the GOP Hunger Games continue...


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 13:13:42 -0700, "D. Stussy" <spam+newsgroups@bde-arc.ampr.org wrote:


Aliens do not share the same tax responsibility: They are not taxed when

they leave our country except for their U.S. sourced income.


Aliens pay the same taxes on goods and services as everyone else. That

included communications, food, rent, gas, power, clothes, medical etc

And they do spend a lot on gas getting back to Alpha Centauri.


Al wrote:


Back in the seventies, I was visiting family in the NC Blue Ridge, and on

the way to lunch one Sunday saw a bunch of cooters with rifles hanging

around outside the Baptist church.

Cool. When I go to the drug store, there's a whole aisle of products devoted to taking care of my cooter.


sully wrote: On Apr 10, 5:05 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: sully wrote:

Who's asking you to pay for poor kids to go to private school?


nobody.


You're making it up, typical right wing straw.


But right wingers don't want to pay for public schools, that we know.

They want to close them down and have the kids go to work as janitors

in your kids private schools.


Who's asking to end funding for public schools?

nobody.

You're making it up, typical moonbat straw.


Don Martin wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:14:17 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Smiler wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 17:34:39 -0700, linuxgal wrote: >

Which religion has a book that says thou shalt not suffer the

practicioners of the other religion to live? I forget.

All of them. >

I'm pretty sure Wicca don't.


Does Wicca have a book?


The Grimmerie.


Jason wrote:


Do some research on Jews--it's also related to blood lines. For example,

if their ancestors are Abraham and Sarah--they are Jews regardless of

their religions.

Not so. The Jews consisted only of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi that remained in the south after the other ten tribes were deported to Medea by Sargon II in 720 BCE and assimilated.


John Baker wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:07:33 +0100, Alex W <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:09:56 -0400, John Baker wrote: > > >

Hell, even Yes sucked in the '80s. <G>

Ditto Genesis....

-(

>


Indeed. Another sad case. But back when that Collins fellow was just

the drummer, Genesis made some of my all time favorite music.


Home By the Sea/Second Home by the Sea...epic.


TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:


Makes sense to me. But they are waiting for the order to stop and god

is nowhere around!


You should visit the State of Washington if you feel the Earth is getting full.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4145/4990293803_4ce01eeaf2.jpg



duke wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:27:44 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Mike Smith wrote:

Most of the citizens of our Nation are Christian.

A lot of Evangelicals would say Catholicism is a cult, and not even

grant Catholics status as fellow Christians.


ONe small problem. We of the Roman Catholic Church are the Church that most

fully follows the teachings of the Lord Jesus.

Just not this one:

"But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:



Zimmerloon is a murder


No editing changes that.

I wish Mozilla Seamonkey had a Zimmerman filter.


duke wrote:



In the 10 commandments, God told us to keep holy his day. The Jews picked one

day of their liking to give to God. Christians picked the day of Resurrection

as our day and to dedicate it to God in a manner that he gave us.

God told us to REMEMBER the Sabbath Day and keep it holy. By choosing to keep Sunday holy instead, the Catholic Church "changed times and laws" and invoked the judgment of God upon her.

Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


raven1 wrote:

On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 17:20:41 -0700 (PDT), US4ZION <us4zion@gmail.com> wrote:


Answer: the "preacherman".


So why does God only choose idiots to represent him?

It's the same principle whereby alien astronauts fly hundreds of light-years, then appear only to hayseeds and peckerwoods.


BroilJAB wrote:

Three Things Each Atheist Must Know


No Atheist has ever disproved God's existence.

Atheists claim to know God does not exist.

Atheists can never prove that negative claim.

Yes, but it's fun making that gap get smaller and smaller.


Wow, you have 3 tv 's in your trailer so you can see what is being aired

on all 3 networks at the same time? damn, you should be getting less

money in your welfare checks

A liberal and somebody else's money are soon partying.


2960 Dead wrote:



Why are all American right wingers such whiny and dishonest cunts?

If you think tax cuts need to be "paid for" you might be a liberal.

If you believe only tax collectors and criminals should bear arms, you might be a liberal.

If you blame your personal failure on "society" rather than poor choices, you might be a liberal.

If you believe the Black Death was spread by a lack of federal funding, you might be a liberal.

If your High School Year Book goals were to "become a journalist" in order to "help people" you might be a liberal.

If you believe it is noble to be a philanthropist with other people's money, you might be a liberal.

If you think a balanced news story is to quote two liberals and then give a personal opinion, you might be a liberal.

If you love your government but hate your country, you might be a liberal.

If you think that Supply Side Economics refers to your drug dealer's business model, you might be a liberal.

If you believe a "government option" for health care coverage means it's free, you might be a liberal.

If you believe the American individual's right to bear arms enumerated in the 2nd Amendment is a "technicality" you might be a liberal.

If you get angry when someone says, "Our founding forefathers..." you might be a liberal.

If you say you hate slavery, but want total governmental control over each and every facet of American's lives, you might be a liberal.




John Baker wrote:


Not when you consider that Daddy Warbucks is very likely paying a

smaller percentage of his total income in taxes than the guy who's

trying to make ends meet on twenty grand a year.


Congressmen use tax laws to do social engineering. But try to introduce a flat tax, you're a "racist".


John Baker wrote:



When Warren Buffet pays a smaller percentage of his total income in

taxes than I do, no, it isn't. And Buffet would agree.


There's objective data on your income, the government intercepts it from your employer. But to get data on your total assets, the government would have to be able to snoop your person, papers, and effects. This, of course, is precisely what liberals want.


Nickname unavailable wrote: On Apr 10, 9:44 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote:


Wow, you have 3 tv 's in your trailer so you can see what is being

aired >

on all 3 networks at the same time? damn, you should be getting less

money in your welfare checks

A liberal and somebody else's money are soon partying.


once you have helped the richest 2% , accumulate almost all of the

wealth and power in the united states, which side of the wealth divide

will you find yourself on?

Mu. I unask the question.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:44:31 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:



Wow, you have 3 tv 's in your trailer so you can see what is being

aired

on all 3 networks at the same time? damn, you should be getting less

money in your welfare checks

A liberal and somebody else's money are soon partying.


And you're too stupid to understand those who own 70% of ALL wealth in

America---have your support in funneling more without them ever

working?

What does that have to do with me? I am absolutely free from envy. If my neighbor has a bigger boat, good for him.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:05:29 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:38:05 -0700 (PDT), Richard Steel <rsteel2525@aol.com wrote: >

Hybrid owners unlikely to buy another one, study shows

Volt named car 'o the Year in Europe >

Sold 3,000 just recently >

I always love giving tax money to furriners.


what is it about "selling" that you don't understand?

What is it about "taxpayer-financed incentives" that you don't grok?


2960 Dead wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:50:47 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


2960 Dead wrote: > >

Why are all American right wingers such whiny and dishonest cunts?

If you think tax cuts need to be "paid for" you might be a liberal.


And if you're a libertarian, you don't believe cutting taxes can cause

bigger deficits.

Only if you take spending levels as a sacrosanct baseline.


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:02:36 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


John Baker wrote: >

When Warren Buffet pays a smaller percentage of his total income in

taxes than I do, no, it isn't. And Buffet would agree. >

There's objective data on your income, the government intercepts it from

your employer. But to get data on your total assets, the government

would have to be able to snoop your person, papers, and effects. This,

of course, is precisely what liberals want.


You attribute everything you don't like to "the liberals" and then

stupidly imagine every liberal thinks exactly the same way.

As a libertarian, I'm an equal opportunity attributer. A pox on both their houses.


Frank Galikanokus wrote:


What is the first thing republicans want to cut?


Funding for education at all levels!


Check your local schools, check what your state legislators are cutting, check what the

federal government is cutting.

Washington is a one-party state.


BroilJAB wrote:

Ginrich quit.

Santorum quit.

Romney is next President.

Next president of the CoJCoLDS maybe. Not America.


Don Martin wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:19:20 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


Okay, I gotta go crank up some 70's Heart to bump that crap aside...

Will your 70's Heart be sufficient to banish the Sound Of Music? >

"The hills are alive/

to the sound of music"....


From 1959.


Hey that movie was just on last weekend.


Jason wrote:

In article <jm3oh3$e87$1@dont-email.me>, Calvin Ramsey <calramsey@hotmail.com wrote:


I have accepted Jesus as my savior and as a result he will be my advocate

on judgement day. It's great to know that the son of God will be

representing me on my judgement day.


Atheists will not have anyone representing them on their judgement days.


The charge is original sin. I am charged with committing sin before I was even born. I plead not guilty. If a "god" wants to torture me forever anyway, I'll deal with it. But he will get nothing but my eternal contempt.



Jason wrote:

In article <1d5ws39s79b34.1namq0xej1ovd.dlg@40tude.net>, Alex W <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:37:05 -0700, Jason wrote: > >

Do some research on Jews--it's also related to blood lines. For example,

if their ancestors are Abraham and Sarah--they are Jews regardless of

their religions.

That's a racialist view which holds no water with anyone

except breeders of race-horses and Nazi fucks.


What race are the desc. of Abraham and Sarah?

There's no such thing as race.



Jason wrote:



I seem to recall reading that if a person marries a Jewish person--that

they can become Jews.



If your mother is a Jew, then you are a Jew.


Jeanne Douglas wrote:

In article

<807da7a1-f36b-4872-a272-1704e7f738bd@l3g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,

BroilJAB <DesignDenier@wmconnect.com

wrote:


therealgeorgezimmerman.com >

Latest news is that George terminated

his lawyers.



Nope, they fired him.


Maybe Z-man can sue them.


TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:


China would have a population of 2,207 billion if it had the density

of Germany and the whole Earth would crumble under such demand.

Luckily China has been smarter than you and today and only has 1,350

billion people. Good for them.

A lot of China looks like outer Mongolia. You can't extrapolate like that. People don't live in such densities on arid steppes.


duke wrote:



Christians are not known for the card they carry in their wallet. They are

known by their fruits.

Ted Haggard being one such fruit.


Brian E. Clark wrote:

In article <13r2vg37klmld$.6tjrwqqgw5h3$.dlg@40tude.net>,

ingilt@yahoo.co.uk says...


Is there an emoticon for satirical speech yet? <g>

Microsoft is working on it.


Rumor has it that the emoticon will occupy 90 gigabytes on

your hard drive and will require the latest version of .NET

to be installed.


And they will patent the concept of a computer without MS-Emoticon(tm), and if any third-party software maker tries to push out a utility to delete MS-Emoticon(tm) they will be sued for patent infringement.


duke wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:12:09 +1000, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au wrote:


On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:20:26 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote: >

Well, it's your final choice. God doesn't control it. If you choose to burn in

hell, don't blame God for knowing that's what you want. Heeheehee.

I think we should blame God. Heeheehee.

Who should we blame, God, as creator and who has all power

and authority, or us who are just along fro the ride? >

How much control did God have as to how we turned out?


If you burn in hell, it's all your fault.

And yet the laws of thermodynamics ensures that God needs to maintain the flames somehow.


Our President is a lying Fraud wrote:

   Its all about slavery and Obama gonna get payback on whitey

Didn't thousands of members of Whitey die in 1861-1865 to free the slaves?


Our President is a lying Fraud wrote:

Clinton Says Those Watching Bin Laden Death 'Couldn't Breathe for 35

Minutes'

Sucks to be waterboarded, huh?


$7.00 Gas Hits Democrap California ! LOL ! wrote:

Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts


They'll still call them the Bush Tax Cuts though.


lsrlts wrote: On 4/11/2012 12:36 PM, Kirby Grant wrote:

Democrats are not liars.


Sure they are.

"Lie" is such a harsh term. The progressive community prefers to say the President dispenses facts adaptively.


Richard Steel wrote:


Conservatives are more likely to seek out outlets that affirm

their views....>


....because 95% of the media is actively HOSTILE to conservative

values.


Meanwhile, the Left is obsessed with DESTROYING the 5% of the media

they don't control.


MEDIA (Manipulating Everyone's Decision In America)


Republican Restroom Romeo wrote: On 04/11/2012 10:03 AM, Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:13:06 -0700, MattB. <trdell1234@gmail.com.......

wrote:

>

Free speech groups line up to back Tea Party Marine >

Military personell do not have unregulated speech, especially when

denying or refusing to obey their oath. >


Should a soldier be allowed to say "fuck you" to his commanding officer?

That's free speech right?

"Orders" are so Bush Era. Obama Army recruits are asked to share their impressions of what the Drill Sergeant is suggesting they try to do.


Nickname unavailable wrote: On Apr 11, 6:04 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Nickname unavailable wrote: On Apr 10, 9:44 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote:


Wow, you have 3 tv 's in your trailer so you can see what is being

aired > on all 3 networks at the same time? damn, you should be getting less > money in your welfare checks

A liberal and somebody else's money are soon partying.

once you have helped the richest 2% , accumulate almost all of the

wealth and power in the united states, which side of the wealth divide

will you find yourself on?

Mu. I unask the question.


wealth worshiper.

Labelist.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:10:29 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


2960 Dead wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:50:47 -0700, linuxgal wrote: > 2960 Dead wrote: > > > Why are all American right wingers such whiny and dishonest cunts?

If you think tax cuts need to be "paid for" you might be a liberal.

And if you're a libertarian, you don't believe cutting taxes can cause

bigger deficits.

Only if you take spending levels as a sacrosanct baseline.


Why is the transfer of billions and billions to a few people

"sacrosanct" and the care and welfare of a majority of citizens not?

Only a redistributionist lib would call letting people keep more of their own money a "transfer of billions to a few people".


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:06:32 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:05:29 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: > On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:38:05 -0700 (PDT), Richard Steel <rsteel2525@aol.com wrote: >> > Hybrid owners unlikely to buy another one, study shows > Volt named car 'o the Year in Europe >> > Sold 3,000 just recently >>

I always love giving tax money to furriners.

what is it about "selling" that you don't understand?

What is it about "taxpayer-financed incentives" that you don't grok?


Tell it to the tax-payers who have a job makng them

Government Motors is a piss-poor return on investment.

9/17/10

EW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- General Motors announced Friday that it is planning to invest $483 million and add 483 jobs to its engine plant in Spring Hill, Tenn.

One neat cool million per job. Shit, give me a million dollars, I'll drive you anywhere you want to go.


duke wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:45:12 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 19:27:44 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > Mike Smith wrote: > Most of the citizens of our Nation are Christian.

A lot of Evangelicals would say Catholicism is a cult, and not even

grant Catholics status as fellow Christians.

ONe small problem. We of the Roman Catholic Church are the Church that most

fully follows the teachings of the Lord Jesus.

Just not this one:


"But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it

were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and

that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."


Especially that one.


Not during what Fr. Greeley called the Year of the Pedophile.


2960 Dead wrote:


Yes, but most of us reject the social Darwinism of the libertarian

"budgets" such as Paul Ryans.


Yes, I'm used to it. I'm on alt.atheism and we get a lot of people rejecting biological Darwinism there too. Same level of ignorance.


Steve Hayes wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:52:53 -0400, Allen Drake <ALDrake@Spamex.com wrote:


He will be placed in the witless protection program.


Is that the code name for Windows 8?


From the makers of EDLIN, DOS 4.0, Windows Me, Vista, and the Zune.


"...Mo' new taxes!" (Barack Obama)

I've been rich ever since Bush's "Tax Cuts Only For The Rich". I almost retired I was so rich.


First. Post wrote:


Liberalism: If it weren't for white people, black people would all be

millionaires.


I love elves, dragons, unicorns, the Loch Ness Monster, Sasquatch, aliens, sensible liberals, and many other fantasy creatures.



Phlip wrote:


Question from woman in Peoria, Illinois: "So you’re all for like,

'yay, freedom,' and all this stuff. And 'yay, like pursuit of

happiness.' You know what would make me happy? Free birth control."


Romney: "You know, let me tell you, no no, look, look let me tell you

something. If you’re looking for free stuff you don’t have to pay for,

vote for the other guy."


What a charmer with the ladies, huh?

I'm offended that you think all women just want other people to pay for their stuff.



2960 Dead wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:26:10 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


2960 Dead wrote: >

Yes, but most of us reject the social Darwinism of the libertarian

"budgets" such as Paul Ryans. > >

Yes, I'm used to it. I'm on alt.atheism and we get a lot of people

rejecting biological Darwinism there too. Same level of ignorance.


Are you seriously trying to equate social Darwinism to "biological

Darwinism"?

Every system with patterns that propagate through time (DNA, political positions) is subject to Darwinism.


HVAC wrote: On 4/11/2012 8:21 AM, duke wrote: > >

Gordon, do you believe in ghosts? >

Speaking for myself, the Holy Spirit is with us.



Ya...So why don't they call it the 'holy ghost', anymore?


Bad press?


Caspar the Friendly ghost did for the Holy Ghost's respectability what Hitler did for those little square Charlie Chaplin moustaches.


Doc Smartass wrote:

John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net wrote in

news:qeg9o7drpref77gsgnt11jvgck1jjjo5vi@4ax.com:


On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:05:22 -0700 (PDT), Sheep Worrier <sheepworrierone@gmail.com wrote: > On Apr 10, 10:59 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Brian E. Clark wrote: > In article <XnsA02FE333F64D1askifyouwantit@ > 216.196.121.131>, FortbrickG...@yahoobrick.com says... > After seeing the END of the movie, with that creepy "we're all > happy now that we're dead" scene, I have to admit that I agree > with Kate Winslet. > Dammit, don't spoil it! I've only seen it once and forgot how it > ends :( > Last time 'round it ended with fifteen months of horror, > with Celine Dion's demoniac shrieking bursting forth from > the loudspeakers at every store and restaurant, till at > last the Titanic phenomenon sank beneath the waves. > Even Kate Winslet hates that damnable song. :)

Ranks right up there with "You Light Up My Life" and "Mandy"

Not quite. There's still "I Will Always Love You" by Whitney Houston,

and "Wind Beneath My Wings" by Bette Midler to consider. >

I'll see your Houston and Midler and raise you a Neil Diamond and

Barbra Streisand. I wouldn't bring them flowers either after that

pathetic excuse for a song. <G>


That does it.



Her name was Lola


She was a showgirl...


Well I'm not the worlds most physical guy. But when she squeezed me tight she nearly broke my spine. Oh my Lola lo-lo-lo-lo Lola....



Doc Smartass wrote:

Irreverend Dave <reverend_dave@ministerpants.com wrote in

news:XnsA03251E67C848revdave01@194.177.98.144: >

It's a shame he and Alan Shepard weren't given the opportunity to

go to the moon.


Yep.


Alan Sheperd commanded Apollo 14 and golfed on the Moon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_14


duke wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:29:03 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote:


On 4/10/2012 8:35 AM, duke wrote:

Did god tell you this, Duke? Or did you just pass judgement

upon me without god's permission?

If you follow satan, you do exactly that. Now that you posted your past and

present life style today, you sound like you're following the God you reject. >

I don't reject god, Duke...No more than I reject ghosts or Bigfoot.

Like all mythological creatures, they're not real.

No rejection required.


Tell me where the universe comes from.


Tell me where God comes from.


duke wrote:



Who says it's bullshit. Every human invention is fashioned after the example of

the human body given to us by God. Using a computer analogy is a good thing to

do.


Yeah, except for laser beams, which were fashioned after the sharks with fricken laser beams attached to their fricken heads.


duke wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:07:22 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: >

In the 10 commandments, God told us to keep holy his day. The Jews picked one

day of their liking to give to God. Christians picked the day of Resurrection

as our day and to dedicate it to God in a manner that he gave us.


God told us to REMEMBER the Sabbath Day and keep it holy. By choosing

to keep Sunday holy instead, the Catholic Church "changed times and

laws" and invoked the judgment of God upon her.


But the Jews had no basis for the tradition they arbitrarily chose. We

Christians have the day of the resurrection of the Lord. AND, we fulfill God's

plan.

God labored from Sunday through Friday to create the Earth, and rested on Saturday. That's the basis. And from Adam through Seth to Noah, to Abraham, to Christ, to the modern time this day was remembered and observed. So important was resting on this day, and not forgetting to rest on that day, that a man who picked up sticks on Saturday was stoned to death at God's personal command.

Numbers 15:

[32] And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.

[33] And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.

[34] And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.

[35] And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.

[36] And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:12:37 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:

>

As a libertarian, I'm an equal opportunity attributer. A pox on both

their houses.


So why do you imagine all liberals hold exactly the same strawman

position on things you personally don't like?

Liberal: "If it saves just one person from being poor, enslaving you was worth it."


Steve Hayes wrote:

>

10 reasons to buy Windows 7


You told us to make Windows simpler to use, more responsive, and full of new

possibilities. We listened-and made loads of improvements. Here's our top 10:

And you know what has sucked about Windows since Win95? The default configuration is set up to show off all those "improvements". But they're so bloated and CPU intensive they make a dual core 64 CPU run like a 286.


Just Wondering wrote: On 4/11/2012 3:16 PM, duke wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:25:22 -0300, John Manning<jrobertm@terra.com.br

wrote:

> >

"I wish they weren't called the 'Bush tax cuts.' If they

were called some other body's tax cuts, they're probably less

likely to be raised."

Wow, President Bush sure nailed that one. Buckwheat wants da money. > >

According to Obama a tax cut is an increase in government spending.

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue - The new home of the Whopper!


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:43:42 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Are you seriously trying to equate social Darwinism to "biological

Darwinism"?

Every system with patterns that propagate through time (DNA, political

positions) is subject to Darwinism.


You forget that obstruction and deliberate adverse human nature alters

how a social system works.


There are predators in the jungle too.


GSI wrote:


sez the dukester, who instantly jumped to the defense of the murderer

George Zimmerman.

Sez GSI who believes a man is guilty until proven innocent.

Hispanic is a made up "race". Even the concept of "race" itself is made up. If you say Zimmerman is of the Hispanic Race, that's like saying God decreed the doctrine of the Trinity. Once you grok that, then the whole Zimmerman kerfuffle becomes about as boring as the controversy between Calvinism and Arminianism.


Kent Wills wrote:

>
    According to Larson's Book of Cults, those who partake of martial

arts are in serious spiritual jeopardy. According to your [1] book

martial arts are steeped in Buddhist philosophy.

Matthew 5:5 - Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. Tao Te Ching- Chapter 76 - The soft and yielding will prevail.

Matthew. 26:52 - Live by the sword, die by the sword. Tao Te Ching - Chapter 74 - If you use the Master's tools, you just cut your own hands.

I decided that I was a Taoist after everyone kept telling me that I was in the Way.


Jason wrote:

>

There's no such thing as race.


Yes, there is.


Look up "race" in your dictionary.


Unicorn is in my dictionary too. And the Bible, for that matter.



Les Hellawell wrote:

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 04:12:34 +0100, Smiler <Youmustbe@JoeKing.com> wrote:


On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:12:39 +0000, Puberella wrote: >

"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasmulletstein@isalwaysright.com wrote in

news:jm2ucs$moa$1@dont-email.me: >

<snip Zackcrap> >

Our Lady of Vaseline?

I bet she's a slippery customer...


Wasn't she one of the dancers in 'Grease' with John Travolta?



Why, this car is automatic It's systematic It's hydromatic Why, it's greased lightning!


Jason wrote:


Neither of us know how thick the canopy was. For example, if the oceans in

the world contained far more water than they presently contain, the canopy

would not have needed to be very thick.


If the oceans were deeper then, where did the water go? And how come the First Nations, here in the Western Hemisphere since 13,000 BCE, never heard of a flood?



Jason wrote:

In article <EfKdnepBGq-ZvhvSnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote:

Atheists will not have anyone representing them on their judgement days. >

The charge is original sin. I am charged with committing sin before I

was even born. I plead not guilty. If a "god" wants to torture me

forever anyway, I'll deal with it. But he will get nothing but my

eternal contempt.


That's not a problem for God.


All the more reason for holding him in contempt.


felix_unger wrote:


I just had a visit from the Mormons. I don't know anything about their

religion, but I had to practically slam the door in their face to get

them to leave. they did NOT want to take no for an answer.


Ask them what "plain and precious things" are in their Book of Mormon that isn't in the Bible. They'll say they'll get back to you. Then don't answer the door.


John Baker wrote:


I was fond of XP myself, and much preferred it over Vista, but I think

if and when you make the change, you'll be surprised at how much

better than XP Win 7 actually is. I'm running 7 Ultimate x64 with SP1

and have no complaints.

Win7 has the same problem Vista has, it won't run the music-making software I bought in the XP era. I don't believe in paying for the same app twice just because the underlying OS doesn't work with it.



sully wrote: On Apr 12, 8:14 am, Common sense <guaireaid...@hotmail.com wrote:

Voter ID is a plot of those evil right wingers to deprive dead people and undocumented aliens of their right to vote. It will also limit everyone else to one vote apiece.


scant evidence of voter fraud in the last few election cycles. Lots

of evidence of vote counting fraud by voting machines installed by

right wing corporations.

What's a left wing corporation? Ben and Jerry's?


Common sense wrote:

Voter ID is a plot of those evil right wingers to deprive dead people and undocumented aliens of their right to vote. It will also limit everyone else to one vote apiece.

Q. What do you call twelve Democrats wandering around in a Chicago cemetery?

A. A "get-out-the-vote" rally.



sully wrote:


LOL, didn't/don't do either. I stick to

beer. Beer goggles always make the

world look a little better to me, no

matter what decade!  :^)

They say beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.


sully wrote:


right wingers have trouble with the english language, twisting word

meanings to fit their irrational world view.

Q. What is the definition of gross ignorance?

A. 144 liberals.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 04:04:02 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


GSI wrote:

sez the dukester, who instantly jumped to the defense of the murderer

George Zimmerman.

Sez GSI who believes a man is guilty until proven innocent. >

Hispanic is a made up "race".


So---none of the hispanics exist?

No more so than Aryans exist. It's a fictional category.


fasgnadh wrote:


"North Korean Rocket Launch Fails" - ABC news April 12, 2012


We failed it, with a fricken "laser". Good shooting, Navy.


Jason wrote:



I feel sorry for the next several generations of Americans--the America

they grow up in will be far different than the America that we grew up in.

One of the reasons is because we are leaving to them a national debt that

is now over 15 trillion dollars. That means the federal government may not

be able to provide to them programs like Social Security and Medicare

since the federal government will not have the money that is needed to

fund those excellent programs.

Thus exposing what we knew all along, they were raiding the SS and medicare trust funds to pay for their pet projects without raising taxes, and leaving worthless IOUs in there.


lsrlts wrote: On 4/12/2012 12:48 PM, Liberal Here wrote:

the unfairness of the liberal bias in history and reality


Yes liberals revise history.


Thus far they have not altered reality.

Liberalism is shaped by feelings, it cannot be shaped by facts. Trying to live in Lib Utopia is like trying to live in a marshmallow.



Lamont Cranston wrote: On 4/12/2012 10:01 AM, Obama's War On Women wrote:

too bad there's not more !


Racism has become the only plank in the conservative platform.



OJ proved that racism is a worse crime than murder in the US.


Poor Repressed, Deprived, Victimized Republic-Loons wrote: On 4/12/2012 12:24 AM, Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:


>

No Grand Jury means he don't get a death sentence you goofy fuck >


The half breed spic will get a life of ass fucking in FL prison

system for murdering an unarmed teenager.


Cops call that a "two fer".


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:41:16 -0700 (PDT), Michael Ejercito <mejercit@hotmail.com wrote:


Cosby added: “When you carry a gun, you mean to harm somebody, kill

somebody.” >

 So whom do cops mean to kill and harm?


You might ask those 5 New Orleans cops that were just sentenced for

shooting people unarmed trying to get supplies.


Trying to get supplies of plasma televisions and shit.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 04:04:02 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


GSI wrote:

sez the dukester, who instantly jumped to the defense of the murderer

George Zimmerman.

Sez GSI who believes a man is guilty until proven innocent. >

Hispanic is a made up "race".


So---none of the hispanics exist?


FYI, Latinos are considered a "white race"


Asians are also considered a "white race" for purposes of college admission. It's an artificial designation, used for cynical political purposes.


Jason wrote:

In article <QYqdnTJKN5rIJBvSnZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote:

Neither of us know how thick the canopy was. For example, if the oceans in

the world contained far more water than they presently contain, the canopy

would not have needed to be very thick. >

If the oceans were deeper then, where did the water go? And how come

the First Nations, here in the Western Hemisphere since 13,000 BCE,

never heard of a flood?


I can guess that no one wrote down any information about Noah's flood.

Also, if someone did write down Noah's flood information--it was not

preserved or was lost.

Kind of hard to write it down if you're dead. My point is that the inhabitants in the Western Hemisphere, here since the last ice age 13,000 years ago, were not killed by the "worldwide" Noahide flood 4,519 years ago.


Jason wrote:

In article <QYqdnTBKN5oeJRvSnZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote:

>

There's no such thing as race.

Yes, there is. >

Look up "race" in your dictionary. >

Unicorn is in my dictionary too. And the Bible, for that matter.


Have you ever filled out a job application--they ask or at least used to ask:


Race? Most people would write black, white, WASP, chinese, etc.


I believe the word negroid is a race but am not sure.

It's a "go along to get along" thing. Same principle applies in politics. There's officially no religious test for public office, but no self-proclaimed atheist would ever get past the party primaries in the race to the White House.


sully wrote: On Apr 12, 5:22 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: sully wrote: >

LOL, didn't/don't do either. I stick to

beer. Beer goggles always make the

world look a little better to me, no

matter what decade!  :^)

They say beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.


LOL, can I keep?


All my stuff is copyleft, free and clear.


Jeanne Douglas wrote: On Apr 12, 9:12 am, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com wrote:

Glad to see obama is fiscally responsible

enough to see our government

needs more money coming in. wars arent

cheap. He is truly taxing his way into my heart. >

BroilJAB said,

I see that even the liberal media is now

laughing at Obama's call for more taxes.


You mean the taxes on the richest Americans that 2/3 or more of

Americans are completely in favor of.

When you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on the support of Paul.


Andy W wrote:


This of course implies that God's own future actions are already known

to him, and even God doesn't have any free will. So much for

omnipotence. Paradox is a bitch.

Time paradoxes should be a clue that time as it is popularly known doesn't exist, only an eternal now that changes.


sbalneav wrote: yjkooo <yjkbrenda@att.net wrote:

--- Time is relative.


Only if you're travelling at speeds greater than .7C with respect to a

stationary observer. Otherwise it's close enough for gardening work.

If you travel at exactly 0.7071c, then you cross one light-year of space every year of ship's time. So you feel like you're going at c.



duke wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:47:08 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: >

If you burn in hell, it's all your fault.

And yet the laws of thermodynamics ensures that God needs to maintain

the flames somehow.


He does that by converting mass into energy, fire in this case. Heeheehee.

Heeheehee....you know that for hell to exist for an infinite time, it will require infinite mass converted into infinite energy. And that means God will have to make all that mass to convert into energy to keep hell burning, which invalidates your claim that burning in hell is all your own fault. God does his part too, you see.


duke wrote:


God did when he told us to love one another as he loves us.


And if we don't, we will be tormented with fire day and night in the presence of the Lamb and the holy angels, and the smoke of our torment will rise forever and ever. What love.


L. Raymond wrote: Brian E. Clark wrote:

badaddress@....com says... >

Concluded Knox: Atheists can sneer at faith all they like, but they

can't assume science is on their side.

Then Knox is an idiot. The power of positive thinking - no matter how

New Agey that sounds - has long been known to be of vital importance in

maintaining health and recovering from serious illness. And, yes, it's

been scientifically proven to be so.

Since when does a health benefit related to a belief have

anything to do with the truth of that belief?


Are you suggesting placebos don't really cure everything?


A sugar pill won't cure hyperglycemia, that's for damn sure.


HVAC wrote: On 4/12/2012 8:26 AM, duke wrote: > > > Gordon, do you believe in ghosts? >

Speaking for myself, the Holy Spirit is with us. >

Ya...So why don't they call it the 'holy ghost', anymore?

Bad press? >

It's still the Spirit of God guiding us.



Attempt to change the subject noted.


Oh, look, over there, it's a shiny thing!


2960 Dead wrote:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/apr/12/george-soros-eurozone-

crisis


George Soros: eurozone crisis has entered a 'more lethal phase'


The Titanic is going down. Re-arranging the deck chairs didn't work.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Apr-12 05:18, raven1 wrote:

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 04:15:34 -0700 (PDT), BV BVv4bv4bv4@gmail.com> <b> wrote: >

ISLAM AND WOMEN >

That's the title of the second chapter in a book I'm reading. The

first is called "The KKK and African-Americans".


What are some of the other chapters called?


Chapter 3: Which country will have the next Muslim Atomic Bomb: Iran by building a Bomb, or the UK by going Muslim?



HVAC wrote: On 4/12/2012 7:54 AM, duke wrote: >

"Faith is believing what you know ain't so."

I think that was Samuel Clemens. >

Why would anyone have faith in something they know isn't true. Faith is

believing in something that can't be proved but has all the evidence

to support

it.


So give me the evidence to support THIS catholic idea about angels.



SERAPHIM - sometimes called "the burning ones" because they are closest

to God and radiate Pure Light....


Hey Duke, I got a book that talks about Valar and Maiar and Elves. That's evidence of Middle-Earth!


Frank Galikanokus wrote:

On this day in 1633, chief inquisitor Father Vincenzo Maculano da Firenzuola, appointed by

Pope Urban VIII, begins the inquisition of physicist and astronomer Galileo Galilei.

Galileo was ordered to turn himself in to the Holy Office to begin trial for holding the

belief that the Earth revolves around the Sun


Duke will say infallibility didn't count in that case.


Steve wrote:


I've always assumed stupid people gravitated toward leftism.. the

stupider, the more left they are.

What do you call a zit on a liberal's ass? A brain tumor.

What's the difference between a smart liberal and Bigfoot? Bigfoot has been spotted.

How do you occupy a liberal for hours? Write 'Important Message From President Obama Please Turn Over' on both sides of a piece of paper.




Fred Hall wrote:


I've already written my congressperson requesting a ban on possessing

Skittles and canned tea after 8 pm GMT


Skittles are gang paraphernalia.


x wrote:



sperm cant be considered a person because it meets none of the criteria

of personhood, which is a specific term with legal and philosophical

definitions.

You should see the movie Eraserhead, and what happens when a mother gives birth to a giant sperm.


Mitchell Holman wrote:

Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in

news:Jason-1204121322190001@66-53-212-210.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:


Israel is a very important ally and friend.



   Why? What has Israel ever done for the US?



They almost sank the USS Liberty in 1967, and made us pay them $13 billion dollars NOT to hunt for scud launchers in Gulf One.


Antares 531 wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:53:17 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


duke wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:29:03 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote: > On 4/10/2012 8:35 AM, duke wrote: > Did god tell you this, Duke? Or did you just pass judgement > upon me without god's permission? > If you follow satan, you do exactly that. Now that you posted your past and > present life style today, you sound like you're following the God you reject.

I don't reject god, Duke...No more than I reject ghosts or Bigfoot.

Like all mythological creatures, they're not real.

No rejection required.

Tell me where the universe comes from. >

Tell me where God comes from. >

Tell me where an n-dimensional infinite fractal begins.

At position 0,0 on the Argand plane.


duke wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:53:17 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:29:03 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote: > On 4/10/2012 8:35 AM, duke wrote: > Did god tell you this, Duke? Or did you just pass judgement > upon me without god's permission? > If you follow satan, you do exactly that. Now that you posted your past and > present life style today, you sound like you're following the God you reject.

I don't reject god, Duke...No more than I reject ghosts or Bigfoot.

Like all mythological creatures, they're not real.

No rejection required.

Tell me where the universe comes from. >

Tell me where God comes from.


I have no idea.

Then I have no idea where the universe comes from, and I'll stand just as pat with that situation as you do with the origin of your middle man.


duke wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:55:28 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: >

Who says it's bullshit. Every human invention is fashioned after the example of

the human body given to us by God. Using a computer analogy is a good thing to

do.


Yeah, except for laser beams, which were fashioned after the sharks with

fricken laser beams attached to their fricken heads.


Where did the concept of a beam of light come from?


From the perception of a beam of light.


duke wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:18:20 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote:


On 4/11/2012 8:12 AM, duke wrote: >

But the Jews had no basis for the tradition they arbitrarily chose. We

Christians have the day of the resurrection of the Lord. AND, we fulfill God's

plan. >

Duke: In what year did the church make it a commandment to

go to church every Sunday, or have a mortal sin on your

permanent record?


In Acts, it is seen that the new Christians were attending daily Mass. Of

course, they also thought the end was upon them. None the less, we still live

by the 10 commandments written on our hearts, and so the day of resurrection is

a day to keep holy. Mass is then in keeping that agreement.

Man was not made for the Sabbath, but the Sabbath for man. The Catholic Church changed the Sabbath to Sunday, then reversed the relationship, and made man serve the new Sabbath.


Pat Kiewicz wrote:

Don Martin said: > linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: Don Martin wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:19:20 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > Okay, I gotta go crank up some 70's Heart to bump that crap > aside... > Will your 70's Heart be sufficient to banish the Sound Of Music? >> > "The hills are alive/ > to the sound of music".... > From 1959.

Hey that movie was just on last weekend.

Rogers and Hammerstein goes on forever. >

But even they dropped the occasional turd into some of their best works.

(In the case at hand, "Sixteen Going on Seventeen" was even *reprised*!)


You know, I never actually sat down and watched "The Sound of Music" until last weekend, and it was an important film. Grossed more than Gone With the Wind, and wasn't surpassed until The Exorcist.


duke wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:10:43 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote:


On 4/11/2012 8:08 AM, duke wrote: >

None understand the message of "faith". >

"Faith is believing what you know ain't so."

I think that was Samuel Clemens.


Why would anyone have faith in something they know isn't true. Faith is

believing in something that can't be proved but has all the evidence to support

it.


Paul says faith is the evidence of invisible things. Your FAITH is the evidence.


Pat Kiewicz wrote:

Doc Smartass said:


That does it. > >

Her name was Lola >

She was a showgirl...


...the horror...the horror...

You're tainted by the Paul Voorhees film "Showgirls".


Sid9 wrote:


Germans had SS and a health care system in the 1890s...we're real slow!

Yeah, we're playing catch up, but Obama's got the racial hygiene camps going now so we're getting there.


MattB wrote:



  Tea Party operatives hate truth.  They remind me of Zepp in so many

ways.

Telling a liberal the truth is like showing a vampire a crucifix.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: On 2012-Apr-12 19:06, linuxgal wrote: x wrote: >

sperm cant be considered a person because it meets none of the

criteria of personhood, which is a specific term with legal and

philosophical definitions. >

You should see the movie Eraserhead, and what happens when a mother

gives birth to a giant sperm.


Is it this movie by David Lynch (I'm not kidding about the name)?


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074486/


Yes. It's one of those movies that even you see it you can't believe it.

http://www.fearnet.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2011117/Altereca-eraserhead2.jpg


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:06:46 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


x wrote: >

sperm cant be considered a person because it meets none of the criteria

of personhood, which is a specific term with legal and philosophical

definitions.

You should see the movie Eraserhead, and what happens when a mother

gives birth to a giant sperm.


She must have used a rubber.

The funny part is when her parents make them get married so they can raise the sperm.


Tracey12 wrote:


Not long ago, the Drudge Report featured almost daily article links to

homosexual issues. Apparently the complaints came in strong and it

appears now that Matt is shying away from those kinds of stories.


Drudge himself is as queer as a football bat.


2960 Dead wrote:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/13/north-korea-launches-long-

range-rocket


North Korea launches long-range rocket, discovers low earth orbit

consists of salt water


They should try perfecting bicycle technology first. Baby steps.


John Baker wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:59:06 -0700 (PDT), Waldo Tunnel > <waldotunnel@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I know you have but many others take him seriously, and it is >> embarrassing. > > Same with LiarBoi, US4, duke, Andrew - the whole lot of them, really. > Why anybody still gives those idiots the time of day is beyond me.

The quality of a.a. trolls has taken a severe nosedive in ten years.


Jeanne Douglas wrote: > > Explain your silly anthropic principle in a way that is not silly.

This universe appears designed for human life, but this is an illusion based on the fact that we do live in it. If there were a different kind of universe that could support life, then that universe would appear fine-tined for whatever life it allowed to exist, and the conditions in our own universe would appear bizarre and hostile to that life.



Matt wrote: > On Apr 27, 7:02 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote: >> Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote: >> >> "Civilization is the process of setting man free from men." --Ayn Rand > > Ayn Rand was a hypocrite and an idiot. An idealist living in a cynical > world.

Ad Hom noted.

> Civilization is realizing that your rights end where another's nose > begins.

That's essentially what she said.


2966 Dead wrote: > > Tell me where in the Constitution it says anything about capitalism.

Amendment 4:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated..."

Capitalism is based on the concept of private property.

The sooner you learn that the Constitution does not grant people rights, but limits the scope of government to take away those rights, the better.


Sid9 wrote: > > Obamacare simply is a plan for paying for it and relieving the burden on > taxpayers for those who refuse to pay their fair share.

Americans hate it when other people pick our wallet and our doctor, but under ObamaCare the government does both. By now everyone understands why Congress called it a health care reform BILL. Good health is grand, the fine for not getting health coverage is two grand.




Zacharias Mulletstein wrote: > > He gave them Asperger's to test them. That is the reason He causes all > illnesses and injury.

What we really need, then, is an omniscient deity who doesn't need to perform tests because he already knows the outcome.


BTR1701 wrote: > In article <jnechu$tk$1@dont-email.me>, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> > wrote: > >> Obamacare has flaws because it's all that Republicans would agree to. > > Yes, because otherwise it would have been absolutely perfect, just like > everything else the government does.

Obamacare combines the efficiency of the postal service with the compassion of the IRS and the discretion of the TSA.


deep@dudu.org wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:11:12 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote: > >> 2966 Dead wrote: >>> Tell me where in the Constitution it says anything about capitalism. >> Amendment 4: >> >> "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, >> and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be >> violated..." >> >> Capitalism is based on the concept of private property. > > Socialism is based on the concept that some things can't be trusted to > capitalism.

Those who can, do, those who can't become socialists, take from those who have, give to those who have not, and take their 30% cut.


BeamMeUpScotty wrote: > > ACORN aiding and abetting the child sex/prostitution of 14 year old > girls is just part of the Democrats war on women...

Barack Obama has announced a new initiative to significantly reduce crime in America. He's going to ask ACORN to stop doing crimes.


trotsky wrote: > On 4/27/12 9:05 AM, linuxgal wrote: >> trotsky wrote: >>> >>> Apparently Republican obstructionism has eluded you. >> >> Yeah, standing in the way of socialized medicine is "obstructionism" to >> libs. To me, it's a job well done. > > What planet did you say you were from?

The one where the monkeys came down from the trees and became the most fearsome predators on the savanna despite having no predator tooth or claw. Your herd planet may be nice and fuzzy, but my fellow predator-monkeys think you're all just a bunch of slackers.


John Locke wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 08:16:16 -0700 (PDT), BroilJAB > <DesignDenier@wmconnect.com> wrote: > >> The atheist is suspect in most all crimes. He actually >> believes that he can rob and kill you, if the cops do not >> catch him. The atheist has no conscience, and believes >> there is no repercussion whatsoever for even the most >> heinous crimes --as long as he is not apprehended. >> No one in their right mind wants a man living near him >> who actually thinks and acts as an atheist. >> > ..this kind of hate propaganda was employed by Adolf Hitler > against the Polish people in order to justify invasion. > Joseph Goebbels would be very proud of you.


Oh darn, the thread is over, and it was just getting started.


Alan Ferris wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:16:49 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote: > >> duke wrote: >>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:43:38 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote: >>> >>>> In article <vaogp7hgftuuf14ber1misk5lq2jup2qm3@4ax.com>, duke >>>> <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's in the bible effective 33AD. >>>>> >>>> • Saul of Tarsus? >>> Jesus, John, Paul. >> George, Ringo. > > Don't forget the ladies, Yoko and Linda.

And Patty Boyd, George's old lady, who had Clapton on his knees crying "Layla!"


2966 Dead wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:17:50 -0600, deep wrote: > >> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:11:12 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> >> wrote: >> >>> 2966 Dead wrote: >>>> Tell me where in the Constitution it says anything about capitalism. >>> Amendment 4: >>> >>> "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, >>> and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be >>> violated..." >>> >>> Capitalism is based on the concept of private property. > > If that were true, then employers would be running drug tests, credit > checks, and other invasive procedures on employees and prospective > employees.

Gosh, you're right, employers do none of those things.


Gary Forbis wrote: > On Apr 27, 7:18 am, clairbear <clairb...@msn.com> wrote: >> linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote innews:meydndbrU6PwPwfSnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@giganews.com: >> >>> Gary Forbis wrote: >>>> No one is entitled to a profit. >>> No one is entitled to my product. They can obtain my product on my >>> terms. My terms involve a substantial profit to overcome losses due to >>> taxes and regulations and the general fuckedness of the universe. If >>> they do not accept my terms, they can find another product. >> If it's a good product I'll buy one if it's worth my money and any profits >> you make are yours, > > Yes, exactly, however when it comes to healthcare the state has an > interest in the quality and availability of the product.

Maybe the state does. Not the federal government. This will be made clear in June when SCOTUS, like a turd falling on a Tiffany's crystal dinner plate, drops their decision vacating the personal mandate.


Smiler wrote: > On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:31:24 -0700, J wrote: > >> Day 1: fertilization: all human chromosomes are present; unique human >> life begins. >> > > You appear to believe that your conception is more important than your > birth, so why don't you celebrate your 'conception day' instead of your > birthday? >

Because the drive in movie theater where it happened has been turned into a Lowe's.


Jason wrote: > In article <94qdnRGfLMGuXwXSnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal > <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > >> Jason wrote: >> >>> I don't like it when liberal democrats choose as a target a stay-at-home >>> mom that has a serious disease. What's next? Are they going to start >>> saying negative things about their dogs or cats? >> Obama only has glowing things to say about dogs. > > He likes dogs so much that he once ate dog meat. So I guess you could say > that he does like dogs.

Thank God he never carried his meals home on the roof of his car, that would make him totally disgusting like Mitt Romney.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: > On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:47:47 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote: > >> ...a state that I didn't even know had emissions standards. > > Wouln't affect a eunuch like you, would it?

Yeah, I've pretty much been without testicles my whole life. But I've learned to adapt.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: > On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:58:15 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote: > >> Liberalism: "You earn it; we spend it; borrow the rest from China, send >> the bill to your grandchildren. Any questions?" > > Yes. > > Who caused the disaster that made us have to borrow?

The politicians who are afraid of losing their job if they match spending to revenue. Take what you need, but pay as you go.


duke wrote: > On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 12:39:49 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > >> You get slaughtered on Sacred Scripture every time you hit send. > > Never have. Don't see why you would think that now. I'm a protest_ant's worst > nightmare - a Roman Catholic that knows scripture.

Duke, you don't know diddly-squat about Sacred Scripture. I've been running rings around you and everybody knows it. But you do know how to salvage your position by declaring the Word of God of none effect.


BroilJAB wrote: > As if we all didn't easily see: > > Virgil = LinuxGirl = yfk = Fidem = RevHarrgone > > Anytime you see a 'new' poster who begins > immediately to speak in a bizarre 'chatty' voice, > you don't even need to trace ISDN to instantly > see...it is John Baker Virgil Zachariah Mulletstein.

Sure, new poster. I was posting to a.a. as Teresita in July 1998.


duke wrote:

> Yes, haahaahaa. Priests don't hire 17 year old boys in french outfits as > housekeepers.

Vatican news headline: MALE PROSTITUTES APPEAL TO POPE


Alex W. wrote:

> I wonder what he'd make of the sight of a dragonfly alighting on > the blossom of a dragon orchid in 2012, the year of the dragon. > > If he came to Britain and saw the flag of Wales, would he then > declare that dragons live in the British Isles? > > Do we tell him that "riding a dragon" means driving a Russian > off-road car?

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup.


duke wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:31:10 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > >> duke wrote: >>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:18:02 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote: >>> >>>> • Saul of Tarsus built the foundation of Mass. >>> Nope, Paul was the first Christian observed holding Mass in scripture after the >>> cross. > >> On the contrary, it is written (Acts 2:42) And they continued stedfastly >> in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and >> in prayers. > > Not a disagreement. Acts 2:42 is clearly a reflection of the new Christians > holding **daily** Mass. Paul in 1 Cor 11:17-34 is also an example of holding > Mass.

Alleluia, I got Duke to accept a rebuke from Sacred Scripture. I finally got points on the board.


David Fritzinger wrote:

> > Is the Ford Mustang a horse?

Nope, but my 96 'Stang has got some horses.


duke wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 22:46:44 -0500, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote: > >> Has religion provided ANY answers? > > Has atheism?

Psalm 78:69 says the Earth will abide forever. Atheism says the Earth will be consumed by the fiery atmosphere of Sol when she drops off the main sequence.


duke wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:03:59 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > >> Duke, you don't know diddly-squat about Sacred Scripture. I've been >> running rings around you and everybody knows it. But you do know how to >> salvage your position by declaring the Word of God of none effect. > > You're just a classic protest_er, a one-verse says it all Christian. In fact, > I'm your worst enemy - A Roman Catholic that DOES know scripture. In fact, > I've found you remarkably weak in your knowledge.

Actually, I'm Taoist.


David Hartung wrote:

> Once again the "class warfare" crowd proves that they haven't the sense > to "solve" anything.

Unemployment was 4.5% when Pelosi became Speaker. Just sayin'.


Tracey12 wrote: > On Apr 27, 1:15 pm, wy <w...@myself.com> wrote: > >> You're a rebel without a cause. > > You're a Communist without a brain. As a canuck who lives in highly > socialized Canada, how can you begin to understand the concept of > limited government,

President Obama barnstormed the heartland to boost US jobs in a taxpayer-financed bus the US government had custom built -- in Canada.



Tom Gardner wrote: > On 4/27/2012 10:30 PM, Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: > >> The HC act pushed by Obama is NOT an "Obama" idea >> >> It was a REPUBLICAN idea and policy >> >> IDIOT> > > Except the libtards filled it with libtard "Easter Eggs" that insure > complete destruction of the economy. >

America-hating Democrats have a problem to fit every solution. And when they "fix" the US health care system, where will seriously ill Canadians go?


duke wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:27:48 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > >> The problem is the celibacy requirement creates a perpetual shortage of >> priests, so the Church hierarchy has a vested interest in keeping the >> ones they have on the job no matter how sick they are. So they kick the >> pedo can down the road to another parish. > > Are you holding hands with rl now?

Sorry. I forgot you don't like icky heterosexual things.


duke wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:17:12 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > >> Alan Ferris wrote: >>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:01:20 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote: >>> >>>>> By showing they lied? You have a strange >>>>> idea of the verb "to accept". Jesus of the >>>>> "prophecies" was not the messiah they >>>>> "predicted". >>>> They misunderstood. >>> God lied to his prophets? >> Not only did God lie to his prophets, he MADE them lie, and then killed >> them for lying. >> >> Ezekiel 14:9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, >> I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand >> upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel. > > False prophets need that.

You fail to understand the passage. All prophets get their information from God. If a prophet gives bum information, God admits that he misled them. But instead of apologizing, he kills the prophet that he misled.

 And this is the deity you wish to serve.


jim wrote: > > emoneyjoe wrote: >> the borrowing must stop some time, >> even though the debt does not ever really >> have to be paid down. > > That makes doesn't make any sense. > > The borrowing will stop and > that will cause a another great depression.

Light at the end of the spending tunnel: When the entire revenue of the federal government goes to service the debt, it can grow no larger.


John Baker wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:38:59 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote: > >> trotsky wrote: >>> On 4/27/12 9:05 AM, linuxgal wrote: >>>> trotsky wrote: >>>>> Apparently Republican obstructionism has eluded you. >>>> Yeah, standing in the way of socialized medicine is "obstructionism" to >>>> libs. To me, it's a job well done. >>> What planet did you say you were from? >> The one where the monkeys came down from the trees and became the most >> fearsome predators on the savanna despite having no predator tooth or >> claw. > > Let's put you back on that savannah naked and unarmed and see how > "fearsome" you really are. Somehow I don't think that pride of lions > lounging under that tree over there are going to be very impressed > with you. <G>

Well, see, that was the trick. We came down with sharp sticks and loincloths. And losing most of our fur, we developed a very efficient way to remain cool in the heat of the African day. The critters we dubbed "Dinner" didn't have a chance.


Wretch Fossil wrote:

> NASA merged microscopic images with macro images to fake moon landing > images.

How did they do the traveling matte opticals? Kubrick used rotoscoping to create the hold mattes on the Aries 1B and such, but that was a labor-intensive process. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang used a blue screen, but sometimes the blue glare bled over onto the car and you got telltale artifacts.


2966 Dead wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:30:58 -0600, Yoorghis wrote: > >> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:49:28 -0700, MattB >> <trdell1234@Nomorespamgmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> You mean the one that just kicked the shit out of the GOP, IS now >>>> kicking the shit out of the GOP, and making rumney look like the idiot >>>> he is? >>> >>> The primary isn't even over yet. November a long way off. Polls >>> show it close before the Republicans even have a candidate. >>> >>> Democrats must be scared. >>> >> That's a strange way of spelling "laughing" > > Actually, the only poll that shows it close is Faux News. The rest all > show Obama with between a seven and fifteen point lead.

That can be deceptive. Presidents are elected by the Electoral College.

  The swing states are where you want to do your polling, and you want 

to focus on independent voters.


Patrick wrote: > "Mike Painter" <md.painter@sbcglobal.net> wrote ... >> On 4/27/2012 2:06 PM, Patrick wrote: >>> "IlBeBauck@gmail.com"<ilbebauck@gmail.com> wrote > >>> Hundreds of people were translating the Bible into heretical >>> bull shit meanings - specifically in order to change the >>> one true faith into a bunch of snake handlers, and >>> various other silly beliefs. >> Hundreds? >> How amusing. > > There are 5000 different "christian" denominations in the US today.

And each one says they are the one true path to salvation. But they all agree their favorite denominations are the ones with Franklin, Grant, Jackson, Hamilton, Lincoln and George W. on them.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote: > > > "linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote in message > news:iNWdnQGg7JZMtwbSnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@giganews.com... >> Zacharias Mulletstein wrote: >>> >>> He gave them Asperger's to test them. That is the reason He causes >>> all illnesses and injury. >> >> What we really need, then, is an omniscient deity who doesn't need to >> perform tests because he already knows the outcome. > > I told you this before. He forces Himself to forget the outcome. He is > powerful enough to do that. He made the plan, gave Himself amnesia, and > now is sitting back and enjoying the show.

The good side of this divine case of Alzheimers: God makes new friends every day.


Jason wrote:

> I believe that God created life on this planet. I don't believe it is > possible for life to evolve from non-living matter.

The boundary between life and non-life is not very sharp. Google virus or prion.


Barry OGrady wrote:

> Strictly speaking sexual intercourse is between male and female > so there are no homosexuals.

So if there's no homosexuals, why did it take until last year to let them serve openly in the US military?


Jason wrote:

> I have noticed that even one celled life forms such as amoebas never > evolve into multi-celled creatures. >

It depends on the environmental stresses. A single-family group of cavemen might have evolved into a village of many homes because of raids by outsiders. There is safety in numbers.


Jason wrote: > > No. I have seen pictures of the earth that were taken from outer space and > those pictures clearly show that the world is not flat.

Well, your bible says the earth is a circle supported by pillars.



Jason wrote:

> It's not the first lie they have told. They once published the Book of > Judas and stated or implied that Judas wrote the Book of Judas. It's a > fact that Judas NEVER wrote the book of Judas. It was written many years > after he died.

You know that Judas died because the Bible tells you so. The Bible has two stories about how Judas died. One says he hung himself, and the other says he rushed headlong into a field, and tripped, and all his guts fell out. One of these stories is a lie.

Matthew 27:5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.

Acts 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.



ROM ANNEY wrote: > The time will come, sooner than we think, when Americans will be able > to acquire drones to use on their unruly or filthy neighbors.

"That's Homer Simpson, Sir. He's a drone from Sector 7-G." - Smithers


Eat your Peas & Dog wrote: > US Economy Grows at Tepid 2.2% Pace; Misses Estimates

Welcome to the second leg of the double dip, brought to you by the biggest dip to ever disgrace the Oval Office.


US4ZION wrote: > On Apr 28, 12:02 am, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote: >> Theodore Nugenstein is an irish American. >> And he puts scaring the living daylights >> out of the deviants. > > It really is extremely odd..... all these pussy whipped dudes and > lesbians here in one place.

You say pussy like it's a bad thing.


MattB wrote:

> > Mind reading again? I'm just glad they got him. Didn't see > Obama doing anything. Seals did the heavy lifting.

Being an Islamo-terrorist is like being a king salmon. Life is good until the SEALS show up.


Sid9 wrote: > > "linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote in message > news:noCdnRQ0poKbpwbSnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com... >> BTR1701 wrote: >>> In article <jnechu$tk$1@dont-email.me>, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Obamacare has flaws because it's all that Republicans would agree to. >>> >>> Yes, because otherwise it would have been absolutely perfect, just >>> like everything else the government does. >> >> Obamacare combines the efficiency of the postal service with the >> compassion of the IRS and the discretion of the TSA. > > Ooooo....St Reagan has arisen from his grave!

I served in the Gipper's Navy. Loved the guy.


Free Lunch wrote:

>> Actually Archbishop Ussher calculated it to be >> 2348 BC. November 25th, to be exact. > > Yes, a date that has been proven to be false because Noah's Flood has > been proven never to have happened. Those who worship their own perverse > interpretation of the Bible will ignore such facts.

But it remains an interesting study to see how some human beings are willing to embrace such fiction as absolutely true.


Arlon wrote: > The Democratic Party has long and often been considered the champion of the exceptions to the rules. >

There are two ways to win: Follow the rules, or like the Democrats do it.


Alex W. wrote:

> > I'm not worried about dragons -- one serious knight is usually > enough to take care of them. What scares me is the dread Killer > Rabbit of Caerbannog, a beast so fearsome it turned the knights > of the Round Table into gibbering wrecks and small bloody chunks.


"The entrance to this cave is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no man yet has fought with it and lived. Bones of full fifty men lie strewn about its lair. So, brave knights, if you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth!"


Dano wrote:

>

> What is your alternative plan for the health care > needs of poor people?

Tell them, "Don't get sick."

Seriously, there's no mandate in the US constitution for a federally-managed health care system. States can do it, and more power to them.


Mike Painter wrote: > On 4/27/2012 6:13 PM, Joe Bruno wrote: >> My common sense tells me Dr Luetz is full of shit.Repressing or ignoring >> the powerful human sex drive is bound to cause problems for some Catholic >> priests.Most of them can control their urges, but there are bound to >> be some who cannot, just as there will always be people who break the >> law. > > Granted, but that does not explain abuse of children. > The number of priests who engage in sex with adult women, consensual or > not, far exceeds those who abuse children.

That's a silly wild-ass guess. The actual figures are not forthcoming, because priests aren't supposed to have sex with anyone.


BroilJAB wrote: > Authorities in Israel have documented both the > timeframe and the authenticity. There is zero > doubt this Ossuary satisfies all parameters.

If you get all the True Splinters of the Cross into a pile, you'll have enough wood to build an ark.


Sid9 wrote: > > "linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote in message > news:sMudnTy8meh7ewbSnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@giganews.com... > > Ten Year treasuries that mature now are being refinanced at less than 2% > interest. > In 2002, when these bonds were issued it cost the government about 5% > interest. > Debt service is NOT a problem.

Not now. Wait till our debt goes to 230% of GDP like Japan.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 05:27:33 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote: > >> President Obama barnstormed the heartland to boost US jobs in a >> taxpayer-financed bus the US government had custom built -- in Canada. > > What did you expect > > Wingers have all but destroyed industry in AMerica---now you're > blaming the ones who had nothing to do with it.

The difference between free-market capitalism and centrally-planned liberal Democrat socialism is plenty.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:58:50 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote: > >> Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: >>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:58:15 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Liberalism: "You earn it; we spend it; borrow the rest from China, send >>>> the bill to your grandchildren. Any questions?" >>> Yes. >>> >>> Who caused the disaster that made us have to borrow? >> The politicians who are afraid of losing their job if they match >> spending to revenue. Take what you need, but pay as you go. > > Who refuses to match revenue with spending? >

Anyone who votes to raise the debt ceiling.


Free Lunch wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:30:35 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote in alt.atheism: > >> Sid9 wrote: >>> "linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote in message >>> news:noCdnRQ0poKbpwbSnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com... >>>> BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> In article <jnechu$tk$1@dont-email.me>, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Obamacare has flaws because it's all that Republicans would agree to. >>>>> Yes, because otherwise it would have been absolutely perfect, just >>>>> like everything else the government does. >>>> Obamacare combines the efficiency of the postal service with the >>>> compassion of the IRS and the discretion of the TSA. >>> Ooooo....St Reagan has arisen from his grave! >> I served in the Gipper's Navy. Loved the guy. > > Fine for you, but he started the war on knowledge that the GOP has > embraced. That is why he would be considered a radical lefty by the GOP > today.

What war? Reagan had a little dustup in Grenada, another one in Libya, another one in Iran, plus a battleship to Lebanon, but it was a remarkably peaceful time.


BroilJAB wrote: > In ruling after court ruling, the Supremes have now left > Obama's 'legacy' in ruins. Now, his appointment of > non-tax-paying 'Czars' has been thrown out. Obama > actually believed he was above the rule of law, and now > the High Court has put him on a very short chain.

Which is sweet karma, because he kept his future meals on a short chain too.


BroilJAB wrote: > All deviants inherit Hell. > Give up a life of atheism. > Come to Him.

It is better to rule in hell than serve in heaven.


Catpain 'Merca wrote: > Wretch Fossil <wretchfossil@gmail.com> wrote in news:3e0ef00f-e14e-464f-afd7- > 47966e9ce941@kd10g2000pbc.googlegroups.com: > >> Micro and Macro Images Merged in Moon Landing Images > > There is independant global evidence that the manned Lunar landings happened.

We have photos from satellites orbiting the moon that show the debris of the landing sites. But I suppose those were photoshopped too,


John Baker wrote:

> > Righties tend to think - and I use the term loosely - that anything > not expressly *permitted* by the Constitution is forbidden by default.

Forbidden to the federal government, but reserved to the states or the people. This is spelled out in Amendment 10, which moonbats always forget exists. So the Federal government is not permitted to make laws against first cousins getting hitched, or whether you can turn right after a full stop at a red light, or whether you can fly the Stars and Bars over the state capitol.


• R. L. Measures. wrote: > In article <GdadnZbMatiMcQbSnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@posted.localnet>, "Patrick" > <barker_pb@erinot.com> wrote: > >> ". R. L. Measures." <rL@somis.org> wrote >>> ** So prove you point P.B. by publishing the text of the vow. My guess >>> is that it says nothing about having sex with boys. >> What vow? > > ** the RCC's 1079 vow of celibacy - the invitation for "fag" priests to > get free altar-boy perques. >

Perques being the flaming queer spelling of perks.


Hägar wrote: > Definition of Christianity: > > A belief in a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father and who will let > you live forever if you pretend to eat his flesh, drink his blood, and > telepathically tell him that you love and accept him as your master, so he > can remove the evil mojo from your soul that he put there a long time ago as > punishment for all humanity because a rib-woman made from a dirt-made man > was convinced by a talking snake to eat fruit from a magical tree.

And if a candidate does not believe all of the above, he cannot become President of the United States.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:05:05 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote: > >>> Who refuses to match revenue with spending? >>> >> Anyone who votes to raise the debt ceiling. > > The loss of revenue caused by massive tax cuts, passage of unfunded > mandates, and two wars required massive borrowing > > That was the result of republicans >

I don't care what the government spends the money on, or which party is to blame. This is a democracy, after all. But I do care that we fully fund all of our follies. Running the government on money borrowed from unborn generations is the ultimate in taxation without representation.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:00:34 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote: > >> Not now. Wait till our debt goes to 230% of GDP like Japan. > > Kicking out wingers should be our most important goal.

A pox on both houses. Kicking out incumbents of both parties is my most important goal.


2966 Dead wrote: > > Not that it really means a shit. Between electronic voting and Citizens > United, Americans lost control of how they select their government.

Diebold and their Blackwater enforcers are keeping the identity of the next President secret, however, for entertainment purposes.


Dänk 42Ø wrote:

> And don't forget that Chairman Obama doesn't need to pander to stoners, > since they will vote for him again anyway. Nothing matters less in > politics than a special interest group whose support you can take for > granted. >

Obama is a Democrat. That's all that matters to libs. Obama could make every American Jew wear a yellow Star of David arm band, every gay man wear a pink triangle, every lesbian wear a black triangle, and force them to relocate to FEMA racial and sexual hygiene camps, and they would still vote for him by a 4 to 1 margin.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:30:35 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote: > >>> Ooooo....St Reagan has arisen from his grave! >> I served in the Gipper's Navy. Loved the guy. > > Not surprising > > A drooling moron, a liar, Perjurer (real one), greedy asshole, > self-serving egotist, and ran "the most criminal administration in > history" >

Well, that explains Obama's attempts to depict himself as the second coming of Reagan.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:52:17 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote: > >>> Sure--anyone conversant with American History knows what "limited >>> government" caused by 1929. >>> >> Sure, just like limited government caused Katrina. Fuck, ever hear of >> weather? > > "Weather" wasn't the Katrina issue, stupid > > The issue was Bush's administration screwing the pooch--handing out > appointments to incompetent assholes.

I'm addressing your claim that limited government caused the market crash of 1929. My claim is that markets are subject to random forces, just like weather. If you want to talk about mismanagement after the fact, ala Katrina, then we can open the history book on the New Deal.



baddude wrote:

> I think Janet Reno vomited in Hillary's cunt once.

Who wouldn't?


Witziges Rätsel wrote:

> Yeah, Ann chose to marry a multimillionaire and stay at home in > mansions. Does anyone here know whether she employed nannies to take > care of her kids?

If she did, then she has experience running a small business, no? Either way, Hilary Rosen can shut the fuck up.


Dakota wrote:

> The bizarre thing about it is that it was likely justified by a passage > in some "holy" book. I am confident that support for poisoning children > could be found in the sacred texts of many religious belief systems.

Psalm 137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.


Free Lunch wrote:

> > The only sensible program is a nationwide single payer system. We've > seen that it works better and costs less than our wasteful system. > There's nothing in the constitution to forbid it.

I think you will find, in a few months, that the Roberts Court disagrees with you, and strikes down the individual mandate.


2966 Dead wrote:

> That should be hilarious. I take it you already forgot the '08 debates, > or the time Obama met with 135 GOP Congressmen and took them apart so > deftly that Faux News had to break away half way through.

Yeah, the ol' TelePrompTer was really crackling that time.


Dano wrote: > "linuxgal" wrote in message > news:4tSdnSL_v9fkgAHSnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@giganews.com... > > Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: >> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:30:35 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> >> wrote: >> >>>> Ooooo....St Reagan has arisen from his grave! >>> I served in the Gipper's Navy. Loved the guy. >> >> Not surprising >> >> A drooling moron, a liar, Perjurer (real one), greedy asshole, >> self-serving egotist, and ran "the most criminal administration in >> history" >> > > Well, that explains Obama's attempts to depict himself as the second > coming of Reagan. > > =========================================== > > When and where did he do that you loon? >

"Some years ago, one of my predecessors traveled across the country pushing for the same concept. He gave a speech where he talked about a letter he had received from a wealthy executive who paid lower tax rates than his secretary, and wanted to come to Washington and tell Congress why that was wrong. So this president gave another speech where he said it was “crazy”—that’s a quote—that certain tax loopholes make it possible for multimillionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying 10 percent of his salary. That wild-eyed, socialist, tax-hiking class warrior was Ronald Reagan. He thought that, in America, the wealthiest should pay their fair share, and he said so. I know that position might disqualify him from the Republican primaries these days, but what Ronald Reagan was calling for then is the same thing that we’re calling for now: a return to basic fairness and responsibility; everybody doing their part. And if it will help convince folks in Congress to make the right choice, we could call it the Reagan Rule instead of the Buffett Rule." -- Barack Obama

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/04/shameless-liar-obama-compares-himself-to-reagan-video/

For the record, Reagan was the Great Communicator. Obama is the Great Fabricator.



Dano wrote: > "linuxgal" wrote in message > news:4tSdnVn_v9evvQHSnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@giganews.com... > > Free Lunch wrote: > >> >> The only sensible program is a nationwide single payer system. We've >> seen that it works better and costs less than our wasteful system. >> There's nothing in the constitution to forbid it. > > I think you will find, in a few months, that the Roberts Court disagrees > with you, and strikes down the individual mandate. > > ================================================= > > Which makes re-electing Obama all the more imperative. We must avoid > any more of these extreme right wing activists being appointed to that > bench. >

Who's going to re-elect Obama when he couldn't even get his signature policy to stand up to Constitutional scrutiny?


David Fritzinger wrote:

> > But, but, Jason believes that sunlight was able to get through the > supposed canopy. Therefore, by Jason's law (Jason believes it, so it > must be true), sunlight was able to get through the canopy.

Saturn has some snowballs orbiting in a ring, nowhere near a canopy, and it still casts a shadow on the planet. At the very least, it would be colder and darker under that canopy than under a thunderhead on Earth.


BTR1701 wrote:

> > Yeah, it's curious that he does that given any opportunity, isn't it? > Instead of reaching back into history and comparing himself to notable > Democrats like Kennedy or even Clinton, he constantly compares himself > to Republicans like Reagan and Lincoln.

Because Democrats like Kennedy and Clinton were world-class philanderers.


raven1 wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:25:01 -0700 (PDT), Abd AlWahab Abd Allah > <abdinthisland5@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Miracles in the holy Quran > > No one is interested in your book of fairy tales here.

Emphasis on fairy.


Mason Barge wrote: > > Well, live and learn. I really thought that there was no longer any such > thing as a crime of "obscenity" any more. I wonder if the Supreme Court > will have a crack at this.

Yeah, put Clarence Thomas right on it.


MarkA wrote:

> > So, you really DO sleep in shifts, surrounded by your guns and ammo? I'm > not surprised. >

There's a moron up here, killed his wife and daughter, and moved into his "fort" in the woods. I thought he'd be twenty or thirty miles up the Middle Fork Snoqualmie, but no, his "fort" was right off the trail on Rattlesnake Ridge, where everybody and his dog goes hiking. No wonder the Sheriff found his ass so fast. Twenty-two hour standoff at his bunker "fort" and he's daid.


• R. L. Measures. wrote: > In article <qsunp7h3b1qg5728rdkaam3diugvrh4vcp@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris > <hairy.ferrit@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 04:57:46 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> >> wrote: >> >>> duke wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, haahaahaa. Priests don't hire 17 year old boys in french outfits as >>>> housekeepers. >>> Vatican news headline: MALE PROSTITUTES APPEAL TO POPE >> Anyway we all know that 17 is to old to attract a priest. >> > • Ephebphiles might be sexually attracted to a 17 yr old ----- provided > of course that the 17 yr old was the correct sex. >

That's what all this is about, ephebophilia rather than actual pedophilia.


• R. L. Measures. wrote:

> ** No, Friday afternoon. Fat has 9 kilocalories per gram. If there was > such a thing as a liposuction diesel car, Duke would probably be able to > drive non-stop to the Hershey plant in Hershey, PA. >

America is the Saudi Arabia of cellulite fuel.


Free Lunch wrote:

> The reactionary activists on this court have become sellouts to the > richest people in America. They have abandoned the Constitution.

You got that right. In Kelo vs. City of New London (2005), the reactionary activist Court held in a 5–4 decision that the general benefits a community enjoyed from economic growth qualified redevelopment plans for blighted areas as a permissible "public use" under the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment. Now a city can take away your land and hand it to a millionaire developer if that developer promises to generate more tax revenue for the socialists on the city council than you do.


Free Lunch wrote:

> I don't know what they will say, but their decision, based on recent > history of the very political right-wing of the Court will be based in > wishful thinking, not the law. >

Sure, we saw that in the oral arguments. The Obama side was all based on law, and the side of the States was all based on wishful thinking. That's why the liberal pundits went immediately into panic mode, and Obama darkly hinted that anything less than a unanimous decision would be an "unprecedented" action of overturning the will of the people.


Free Lunch wrote:

> He understands that he needs to get votes from the moderately > conservative center. The "Reagan Democrats" and their descendants are > still scared of "socialism" even though they have no idea what it is.

Liberalism in a nutshell right there. Americans are too stupid to vote for their own good.


Gary Forbis wrote: > On Apr 28, 7:07 am, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> Why did you delete my post and change its context? >> You don’t like the truth? > > I do it when I want to focus. When linuxgal does it > it's an acceptance of the part deleted as true. The > context is still there in the original post.

Brevity is the soul of wit. My posting style is to snip everything down to the one point I want to address. On the rare occasion there is more than one point in the original post that needs to be answered, I will quote the other part(s) and repeat the process.

That being said, the Freight Train of Truth is coming in November and liberals are pennies on the track.


US4ZION wrote: > Israel is the premier "superpower" nation on earth.

Fine, then they don't need $3 billion dollars every year in military welfare from the United States.


trotsky wrote: > On 4/27/12 7:38 PM, linuxgal wrote: >> trotsky wrote: >>> On 4/27/12 9:05 AM, linuxgal wrote: >>>> trotsky wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Apparently Republican obstructionism has eluded you. >>>> >>>> Yeah, standing in the way of socialized medicine is "obstructionism" to >>>> libs. To me, it's a job well done. >>> >>> What planet did you say you were from? >> >> The one where the monkeys came down from the trees and became the most >> fearsome predators on the savanna despite having no predator tooth or >> claw. Your herd planet may be nice and fuzzy, but my fellow >> predator-monkeys think you're all just a bunch of slackers. > > If you're claiming that you have sex with monkeys I believe you!

Please. Great apes, not monkeys.


trotsky wrote: > On 4/27/12 7:27 PM, linuxgal wrote: >> BTR1701 wrote: >>> In article <jnechu$tk$1@dont-email.me>, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Obamacare has flaws because it's all that Republicans would agree to. >>> >>> Yes, because otherwise it would have been absolutely perfect, just >>> like everything else the government does. >> >> Obamacare combines the efficiency of the postal service with the >> compassion of the IRS and the discretion of the TSA. > > > We could compare it to the Repug alternative: > . . . > fuck it, I guess they had no ideas in the first place

They don't want to stick their hands in my purse? That sounds like a great idea.


Patrick wrote: > ". R. L. Measures." <rL@somis.org> wrote > >>>> . Gauthe is still alive and quite probaably still looking for boy butt. >>>> That's what he does Duke. >>> But not as a priest any more. Now he's just the man he always was. >>> >> . Holy Orders are not reverseable. > > None of the sacraments are reversable.

Certainly the Sacrament of Reconciliation is reversible, if you, I don't know, commit mortal sin again?



Smiler wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:51:56 -0700, linuxgal wrote: > >> Smiler wrote: >>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:31:24 -0700, J wrote: >>> >>>> Day 1: fertilization: all human chromosomes are present; unique human >>>> life begins. >>>> >>> You appear to believe that your conception is more important than your >>> birth, so why don't you celebrate your 'conception day' instead of your >>> birthday? >>> >> Because the drive in movie theater where it happened has been turned >> into a Lowe's. > > His dad had a car?!?! >

No, a bike. He worked the concession stand, and boinked his girlfriend next to the popcorn popper.


Free Lunch wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 15:01:16 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote in alt.atheism: > >> Free Lunch wrote: >> >>> He understands that he needs to get votes from the moderately >>> conservative center. The "Reagan Democrats" and their descendants are >>> still scared of "socialism" even though they have no idea what it is. >> Liberalism in a nutshell right there. Americans are too stupid to vote >> for their own good. > > It's not just Americans who are easily misled. >

Conservatives fear that you won't understand their proposals; liberals fear that you will.


RichA wrote: > On Apr 28, 5:35 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote: >> Mason Barge wrote: >> >>> Well, live and learn. I really thought that there was no longer any such >>> thing as a crime of "obscenity" any more. I wonder if the Supreme Court >>> will have a crack at this. >> Yeah, put Clarence Thomas right on it. > > Scat films? You support that? As art?

Naw, I don't like shitty films. My taste runs more to The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo.


David Hartung wrote:

> According to the USDA, the 2.1 million family farms (of all sizes) > produce about 37% of annual farm production. These farms are 96% of all > farms. >

Ah yes, but what is their share of the land in production? Sixty-one percent. Using your figures, that means Archer Daniels Midland and the like, with just 39% of the land accounts for 73% of annual farm production. Not bad. And yet libs shit on corporate farms for being evil. The rest of the world would starve without that technology and mass production of calories.


harry k wrote:

> Even better have him explain how a 1 year flood forms fossils encased > in rock.

Especially since fossils aren't really bones, but rocks which retain the pattern of bones, with the same process that produced the Petrified Forest National Park in Arizona.


duke wrote:

>

> Sounds like you still missed the point. You dont' know if Acts 2 came before or > after 1 Cor 11. Maybe you're making the mistake of thinking that because Acts > is on page 1141 and 1 cor is on page 1191, then Acts came before 1 Cor. >

Acts 2 comes before 1st Corinthians because Paul doesn't even make an entrance until Acts 7, and doesn't convert until Acts 9, and doesn't convert Corinth until Acts 18. It's the biggest no-brainer in the history of Earth.


linuxgal wrote: > David Hartung wrote: > >> According to the USDA, the 2.1 million family farms (of all sizes) >> produce about 37% of annual farm production. These farms are 96% of >> all farms. >> > > Ah yes, but what is their share of the land in production? Sixty-one > percent. Using your figures, that means Archer Daniels Midland and the > like, with just 39% of the land accounts for 73% of annual farm > production. Not bad. And yet libs shit on corporate farms for being > evil. The rest of the world would starve without that technology and > mass production of calories.

Er...63% of production. Math class is tough.


Free Lunch wrote:

> Paul Ryan relies on his voters not understanding that he rejects > Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular wholeheartedly as > he remains an acolyte of the religion-hating Ayn Rand. His voters call > themselves Christian and have been persuaded that he is one too.

Article VI paragraph 3: "...no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."


Jim Blake wrote:

> That's when Mitt Romney will swear the oath of office on the Book of > Mormon, his religion. As opposed to what Obama did, The Bible. >

I'd swear the oath of office on the Art of War.


US4ZION wrote: > On Apr 28, 9:01 pm, Yap <hhyaps...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Without US, Israel had already been dumped into the Red Sea by the >> Arabian hostile forces long ago. > > Read the EXODUS and how the armies of Pharoah ended up at the bottom > of the Red Sea. >

Soon after fleeing Egypt, El Shaddai led her people to make their first encampment on the west shore of that extension of the Red Sea which today is a string of lakes.

When it became obvious the Immigrants were not coming back to make bricks for Egypt again, nor to return the jewelry and clothing they "borrowed", Pharaoh took his charioteers and went out after them.

The tide went out, and the stretch of land between Lake Timsah and the Great Bitter Lake became mudflats that were dry enough for those who go on two and four feet to cross to the eastern shore, but those who went on chariot wheels had more trouble. Pharaoh and his Egyptian cavalry became stuck in the mud, and they could not escape before the sea tide flooded the mudflats and drowned all of them.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:34:44 -0700 > linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: >> Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: >>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 01:42:17 +0100 >>> Smiler<Youmustbe@JoeKing.com> wrote: >>>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:24:15 -0700, RedDog wrote: >>>> >>>>> What size tits you got? >>>> You need to borrow a bra? >>> No. He's just confused by the FreeBSD girls. >> That's taking Open Source too literally. > > Perhaps he just wants "open" without the "source." >

Feel the Source flowing through you, Luke.


Joe Bruno wrote: > On Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:58:00 AM UTC-7, linuxgal wrote: >> Mike Painter wrote: >>> On 4/27/2012 6:13 PM, Joe Bruno wrote: >>>> My common sense tells me Dr Luetz is full of shit.Repressing or ignoring >>>> the powerful human sex drive is bound to cause problems for some Catholic >>>> priests.Most of them can control their urges, but there are bound to >>>> be some who cannot, just as there will always be people who break the >>>> law. >>> Granted, but that does not explain abuse of children. >>> The number of priests who engage in sex with adult women, consensual or >>> not, far exceeds those who abuse children. >> That's a silly wild-ass guess. The actual figures are not forthcoming, >> because priests aren't supposed to have sex with anyone. > > You took the words right out of my mouth.Mazel Tov.("Congratulations" in Hebrew)

Osama bin Laden got shot in the temple, right? Guess he was Jewish after all.


Robert Parker wrote:

> And the Carbon permits that can be sold are a really stupid idea, but a > brilliant scam.

It's like guys who don't beat their wives selling wife-beating credits to guys who do.


Free Lunch wrote: > > The Republicans, in the form of the Heritage Foundation, proposed the > basic law that is now derided as Obamacare by the ever rightward > shifting GOP.

The one that will either be vacated by the Supreme Court, or failing that, defunded by the GOP House and Senate next January.


Sid9 wrote: > > Why do Republicans march lock step with their "brains" walled off from > reality?

The difference between Obama and the dog he had for supper? That dog didn’t poop on the rug and blame it on the prior dog.


Free Lunch wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:52:00 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote in alt.atheism: > >> Free Lunch wrote: >> >>> Paul Ryan relies on his voters not understanding that he rejects >>> Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular wholeheartedly as >>> he remains an acolyte of the religion-hating Ayn Rand. His voters call >>> themselves Christian and have been persuaded that he is one too. >> Article VI paragraph 3: "...no religious test shall ever be required as >> a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." > > So lying about your religion is fine.

Sure. But lying about sex, that's impeachable.


Free Lunch wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:33:13 -0500, Doc Smartass > <FortbrickGeek@yahoobrick.com> wrote in alt.atheism: > >> J <jdyoung1@ymail.com> wrote in news:5jcabe.4em.17.1@news.alt.net: >> >>> Subject: Teen banned from prom over Confederate flag dress >> She was wering the wrong flag. The proper final design of the Confederate >> flag is a white rectangle. > > What does the flag of treason look like?

It's got a blue O on it.


Free Lunch wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:00:30 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote in alt.atheism: > >> trotsky wrote: >>> On 4/27/12 7:27 PM, linuxgal wrote: >>>> BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> In article <jnechu$tk$1@dont-email.me>, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Obamacare has flaws because it's all that Republicans would agree to. >>>>> Yes, because otherwise it would have been absolutely perfect, just >>>>> like everything else the government does. >>>> Obamacare combines the efficiency of the postal service with the >>>> compassion of the IRS and the discretion of the TSA. >>> >>> We could compare it to the Repug alternative: >>> . . . >>> fuck it, I guess they had no ideas in the first place >> They don't want to stick their hands in my purse? That sounds like a >> great idea. > > The GOP plan: The sick should suffer until they run out of money. Then > they can die.

Why is that different from what happens in France? 15,000 elderly people died of heat exhaustion a few years back, because all the people that would care for them were on vacation in Greece.


wy wrote: > On Apr 28, 9:31 pm, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Fox News is showing commercials for a report on King Obama. >> >> It looks good, and I can't wait to see the show. >> >> Obama is seen on the ad threatening to use his execustive powers to >> over ride Congress. >> >> Is he president Obama, or King Obama? > > Didn't King Bush II sign 62 executive orders? Why, yes he did!

Yes, but his Executive Orders were for a good cause, he wanted to make government small enough to fit in a woman's uterus.


Jim Blake wrote: > On Apr 28, 9:29 pm, Joe Bruno <atjoebru...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Friday, April 27, 2012 8:09:32 PM UTC-7, linuxgal wrote: >>> Patrick wrote: >>>> In fact, it is precisely the holiness of marriage that makes celibacy >>>> precious; for only what is good and holy in itself can be given up for God >>>> as a sacrifice. >>> I gave up Lent for Lent. >> Jews are only required to do penance one day of the year. We fast on Yom Kippur. > > Well, that sure beats the self flagellating, nailed to the crucifix > crap that we see Catholics in Brazil do every Easter, doesn't it?

Actually that's the Philippines.


BTR1701 wrote: > In article <rs-dnZWMa5f-MAHSnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com>, > linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > >> Free Lunch wrote: >> >>> Paul Ryan relies on his voters not understanding that he rejects >>> Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular wholeheartedly as >>> he remains an acolyte of the religion-hating Ayn Rand. His voters call >>> themselves Christian and have been persuaded that he is one too. >> Article VI paragraph 3: "...no religious test shall ever be required as >> a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." > > That's a prohibition on the government imposing a religious test, not > individual citizens. Citizens are free to vote or not vote for > candidates for whatever reason they like.

So we reject the spirit of the Constitution and ping the man's lack of religion on a technicality.


Tom Gardner wrote: > On 4/17/2012 2:31 PM, Gary DW wrote: >> The HCR passed because Americans wanted health care >> reform. > > > They couldn't even vote it through, it had to be "deemed". The US DOES > need health care reform...just not that monstrosity that is all > politics. A sixth-grade class of special ed students would have done > better.

That's probably why Mr. Obama felt he needed to bring a TelePrompTer into that sixth-grade class.

http://o.aolcdn.com/photo-hub/news_gallery/6/4/646457/1264430322987.JPEG


John Locke wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 09:03:26 -0700 (PDT), BroilJAB > <DesignDenier@wmconnect.com> wrote: > >> http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm >> > Noah's Ark found ! > http://internet-pets.blogspot.com/2011/02/looks-like-noahs-ark.html

Noah's remark as the animals were stepping inside the ark: "Now I've herd everything!"


Teddy Roosevelt = Square Deal

Franklin Roosevelt = New Deal

Harry Truman = Fair Deal

Bill Clinton = Meal Deal

Barack Obama = Raw Deal



Juris Diction wrote: > In article <5jckdu.p6v.19.1@news.alt.net>, "anon" <anon@anon> wrote: > > Congrats. Acceptance is a big step on your way to joining the human > race. >

All those day-glo freaks who used to paint their face. They've joined the human race. Some things will never change.


2966 Dead wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:13:51 -0600, Yoorghis wrote: > >> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:00:26 -0700 (PDT), Richard Steel >> <rsteel2525@aol.com> wrote: >> >> >>>> A vaginal probe to conduct ultrasound was written into law by state >>>> government. >>> And you can't tell the difference between a vagina and an asshole? >>> Certainly says volumes about YOUR sexual preferences, doesn't it? >> On you, it's the same use. > > Maybe Fake Bill thinks he has a vagina. > > He always has seemed a bit confused. >

Kind of hard to miss that sort of thing, you leak like a sieve.


SkyEyes wrote:

> > Gopher wood, being mythological, doesn't weigh much. >

It's a mis-translation. Noah would be working on the ark, and he'd sometimes run short of lumber, then turn to Ham, or Shem, or Japheth, and say, "Go fer wood."


Alan Ferris wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:06:31 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote: > >>> So why do they want these commandments placed on the >>> wall of our courts of justice when they should be demanding >>> they be closed down as their claimed god is our system of justice? >>> 'Jesus will decide' not us as he is the only one without sin >>> they keep telling us. >> The 10 commandments are the basic statement of all laws. > > Liar, the bible is clear on what are Gods commandments and decrees and > he clearly calls on all to follow them.

You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)


duke wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:01:37 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > >> And each one says they are the one true path to salvation. > > No they don't. Basically they don't comment on each other at all. The > beautiful part is that only the Church that follows 100% of the word of God can > claim truth and, ahem, that's the RCC.

Except the word of God says do not bow down down to images, and we see Catholics genuflecting to the crucifix over the altar, with its graven image of Christ, and also to a graven image of Mary in the Marian alcove, every Sunday.

Exodus 20:

[4] Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

[5] Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

But I guess you will say that commandment is not from God, but was inserted into the Bible by men.


BroilJAB wrote: > Exactly, and that is why we have millions of > what Evolution lamely calls 'living fossils' > that have 'not changed for 300 million years'.

If it works, why change it? I'm posting from a Windows 98 box. It's clean as a whistle, has only four processes running at bootup, and I know exactly what they do.


duke wrote:

> > Awwww, lg. Don't you get it? That's an inspirational message that God never > lies, and that false prophesies really don't come from God in the first place > but rather satan, or whatever the Jews called him.

Not Satan, but God:

1 Kings 22:23

Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.


duke wrote:

>

> Awwww, lg. Don't you get it? That's an inspirational message that God never > lies, and that false prophesies really don't come from God in the first place > but rather satan, or whatever the Jews called him.

Not Satan, but God:

2 Thessalonians 2:11

For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.


Alan Ferris wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 06:26:54 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote: > >>> What does the fact that I had abortion have to do with so-called "deep >>> seated yearnings"? Can you not follow a train of thought? >> Sure I follow. Your deep seated yearning of freedom to openly murder your own >> unborn for your own comfort and convenience. You currently stand guilty of >> murder in God's court. > > "Judge not, that you may not be judged, For with what judgment you > judge, you shall be judged" (Matthew 7:1)

1 Cor. 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?


Free Lunch wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:28:01 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote in alt.atheism: > >> So we reject the spirit of the Constitution and ping the man's lack of >> religion on a technicality. > > Religious bigotry in the US is a 400 year old tradition.

Attacking those without religion is the last acceptable form of bigotry in America.


Free Lunch wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:06:02 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote in alt.atheism: > >> Free Lunch wrote: >>> The Republicans, in the form of the Heritage Foundation, proposed the >>> basic law that is now derided as Obamacare by the ever rightward >>> shifting GOP. >> The one that will either be vacated by the Supreme Court, or failing >> that, defunded by the GOP House and Senate next January. > > Abandoning PPACA will cost the federal government more money, but the > reactionary propaganda machine ignores that fact and says otherwise.

You don't do a cost-benefit analysis when you determine constitutionality of a federal law.


BroilJAB wrote: > If they would now follow their own leaders > the atheists might be lead out of the > wilderness.

Researchers have spotted a group of 53 cells within pigeons' brains that respond to the direction and strength of the Earth's magnetic field. Maybe if BroilJAB had 53 brain cells, he would have his own personal GPS.


Free Lunch wrote:

> > Jason never proves nothin'. He guesses that his guesses are good enough.

Not just guesses. He puts "God exists" and "God does not exist" into search engine and reports the hit count.


Free Lunch wrote:

> So, Spain, has used austerity to wreck their economy again after letting > the banks wreck their economy a few years ago. Britain has used > austerity to wreck their economy again after letting the banks wreck > their economy a few years ago and the Republicans want to wreck the US > economy by imposing more austerity on it.

The Obama Tax Increases set to kick in next year will impose austerity on my checkbook.


Free Lunch wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:13:44 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote in alt.atheism: > >> Free Lunch wrote: >>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:33:13 -0500, Doc Smartass >>> <FortbrickGeek@yahoobrick.com> wrote in alt.atheism: >>> >>>> J <jdyoung1@ymail.com> wrote in news:5jcabe.4em.17.1@news.alt.net: >>>> >>>>> Subject: Teen banned from prom over Confederate flag dress >>>> She was wering the wrong flag. The proper final design of the Confederate >>>> flag is a white rectangle. >>> What does the flag of treason look like? >> It's got a blue O on it. > > I suppose you can't help yourself. Why are reactionaries so deranged > about a moderate Democrat?

OB1 Kenyobi's policies make for such a target-rich environment.


duke wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:01:32 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > >> Certainly the Sacrament of Reconciliation is reversible, if you, I don't >> know, commit mortal sin again? > > Haahaahaa. She's clueless.

You leave your headlights on, it runs your car battery down, you get a jump. The following day, you do it again, and request another jump, but your pal says, "Sorry, the Sacrament of Revitalization is not reversible."


Free Lunch wrote:

> I'm not persuaded that the commerce clause isn't more than adequate for > this.

The commerce clause regulates existing commerce. ObamaCare creates commerce by fiat.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:31:24 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote: > >> That's probably why Mr. Obama felt he needed to bring a TelePrompTer >> into that sixth-grade class. > > You do know that Ultra sound probe goes up your snatch, not your ass, > right?

Plonkity plonk plonk.


Free Lunch wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:50:00 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote in alt.talk.creationism: > >> Free Lunch wrote: >> >>> So, Spain, has used austerity to wreck their economy again after letting >>> the banks wreck their economy a few years ago. Britain has used >>> austerity to wreck their economy again after letting the banks wreck >>> their economy a few years ago and the Republicans want to wreck the US >>> economy by imposing more austerity on it. >> The Obama Tax Increases set to kick in next year will impose austerity >> on my checkbook. > > As you know, those Bush tax cuts were irresponsible. Now the GOP refuses > to let the taxes go up for the rich without also punishing the middle > class and poor.

The only capital punishment the Left promotes is income tax.


Dano wrote: > "linuxgal" wrote in message > news:BcednUVv_NNKygDSnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@giganews.com... > > Free Lunch wrote: > >> I'm not persuaded that the commerce clause isn't more than adequate for >> this. > > The commerce clause regulates existing commerce. ObamaCare creates > commerce by fiat. > > =========================================== > > That's your opinion. If only it were so easy to "create commerce". > That would be quite a feat.

This is how they do it: The law says you have to buy health insurance, or pay a fine. That creates the commerce. Then Congress goes, "Commerce! Gosh, we better regulate it!" Nice work if you can get it.


David Fritzinger wrote: > In article <BcednUhv_NM2yADSnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@giganews.com>, > linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > >> Free Lunch wrote: >> >>> So, Spain, has used austerity to wreck their economy again after letting >>> the banks wreck their economy a few years ago. Britain has used >>> austerity to wreck their economy again after letting the banks wreck >>> their economy a few years ago and the Republicans want to wreck the US >>> economy by imposing more austerity on it. >> The Obama Tax Increases set to kick in next year will impose austerity >> on my checkbook. > > You mean the *Republican* tax increase. After all, the Bush tax cuts had > a sunset clause built in, so they wouldn't seem as expensive as they > would actually be.

Obama's simplified 1040EZ Tax Form for 2012:

1) Amount earned $_______.

2) Send it in.


Caranx latus wrote:

> What I'd like Jason to do is to shorten the term "non-living matter" to > "matter". There is no such thing as 'living' matter. The carbon, oxygen, > etc. in living systems is identical in every respect to the carbon, > oxygen, etc., found in the environment.

It's like saying molecular electrons. When you get down to the level of electrons, you're not talking about molecules.


MarkA wrote:

> What surprises me is that there is only one of them. The Middle Ages were > a boom time for manufacturing counterfeit Jesus artifacts. It seems that > there should be a couple dozen in circulation. >

Put all the True Splinters of the Cross in a pile, you have Noah's Ark.


Free Lunch wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:59:16 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote in alt.atheism: > >> Free Lunch wrote: >> >>> I'm not persuaded that the commerce clause isn't more than adequate for >>> this. >> The commerce clause regulates existing commerce. ObamaCare creates >> commerce by fiat. > > The commerce exists. The rules are what we are talking about.

There are millions of Americans without health insurance. That commerce does not exist. ObamaCare requires them to purchase health insurance, thus creating the very commerce it would then regulate. That is what we are talking about.


David Hartung wrote:

> Abraham Lincoln is widely regarded as one of our nation's greatest > presidents. Not only did he issue an executive order suspending habeas > corpus, but he defied such an order when handed down by the chief > justice of the Supreme court. He got away with it because the voters and > the Congress perceived the rebellion of the southern states to be a > bigger threat to the nation.

And Nixon said, "When the President of the United States does a thing, that means it's not illegal." But that bare assertion didn't make it true.


Free Lunch wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:14:23 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote in alt.atheism: > >> Free Lunch wrote: >>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:59:16 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> >>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>> >>>> Free Lunch wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm not persuaded that the commerce clause isn't more than adequate for >>>>> this. >>>> The commerce clause regulates existing commerce. ObamaCare creates >>>> commerce by fiat. >>> The commerce exists. The rules are what we are talking about. >> There are millions of Americans without health insurance. That >> commerce does not exist. > > Yes, and they can continue not to have health insurance under this law. > They merely have to pay a surprisingly small tax if they choose not to > have insurance.

Yeah, when income tax was created in 1913 it was surprisingly small too, just one percent. Now look at it.


Free Lunch wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:02:28 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote in alt.atheism:

>

>> This is how they do it: The law says you have to buy health insurance, >> or pay a fine. That creates the commerce. Then Congress goes, >> "Commerce! Gosh, we better regulate it!" Nice work if you can get it. > > We know it is completely legal to collect taxes to pay for health care.

Yes indeed, that's why the issue before the Supreme Court is limited to the personal mandate.


Alex W. wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 06:30:41 -0500, Tom McDonald wrote: > >> On 4/29/2012 1:48 AM, Jason wrote: >>> In article<ddudnVMDLpSJcQbSnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal >>> <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The boundary between life and non-life is not very sharp. Google virus >>>> or prion.

>>>

>>> Do you believe it is possible for a virus to develop from non-living matter? >>> >>> >> Well, we've done it, so, yes, of course. > > For that matter, it is not even certain whether a virus qualifies > as "alive". In strict biological terms, they are not alive > because they cannot reproduce on their own, do not have cell > membranes, a cell nuceaus or enzymes. Until and unless they have > infected a host, they are utterly dormant: there are no active > biological processes and any genuinely living creature would be > declared dead.

They exist in the Twilight Zone between the living and the dead, where non-living chemical evolution culminates in fully self-sufficient cells.


duke wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:00:11 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skyeyes9@cox.net> wrote: > >> On Apr 28, 4:33 pm, "Patrick" <barker...@erinot.com> wrote: >>> ". R. L. Measures." <r...@somis.org> wrote >>> >>> >>> >>>> . Are priests who sodomized > 100 altar boys, Confessed, and repented >>>> profusely going to heaven or the hot place?. >>> Jesus once said it would be better to have a millstone hung from >>> their neck than to harm a single child. We'll let Him decide. >> Unfortunately for *you*, he said nothing about embryos or fetuses. > > Oh, yes he did. Those are God's "least important ones". Mat 25.

The Bible defines spirit as the breath of life. These unimportant ones do not breathe, so they do not have a spirit.

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


Joe Cool wrote:

> Obama can't close GITMO, only Congress can. Obama has asked them too, > but Congress has yet to act. Meanwhile the population at GITMO is the > lowest it has been since the US invaded Afghanistan, you pathetic > clueless babbling fucking asshole moron.

The Commander-in-Chief could direct the armed forces to take all Prisoners of War to Joint Base Lewis-McCord. GITMO would remain open, but Camp X-Ray would be empty.


Free Lunch wrote:

> No, it does not require them to buy health insurance. It collects a > relatively small tax if there is no insurance because we know that, on > average, those without insurance end up needing health care that is paid > for by the rest of America.

Oh, that's the second part of my reform. We don't pay for it anymore.


BTR1701 wrote: > > Well, that's not the argument that the government used in its case. They > argued that Obamacare was constitutional as part of the government's > authority to tax. >

It's one thing to pay a tax to a government, it's another thing to be required to pay a premium to a private entity. Both of them are forms of slavery, but the latter most egregiously so.


duke wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 05:15:50 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > >> Actually, I'm Taoist. > > No wonder your suggestion of running rings around me re scripture is just so > much hot air.

And yet I continue to do it, even today.


Free Lunch wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:12:35 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > wrote in alt.talk.creationism: > >> Free Lunch wrote:

>>

>>> Why do you want to destroy your country? Remember that property does not >>> exist without government.

>>

>> Not only does property exist without government, but value exists >> without money. Money is just a bartering aid. > > No, property does not exist without government. That is why anarchists > say that property is theft

One pickpocket is a thief.

Ten men shaking down a business is a gang

One hundred men running the "waste management" rackets is the Mafia.

Ten thousand men looting the entire nation is the Internal Revenue "Service".


Mike Duffy wrote: > Devils Advocaat <mankygoat7@gmail.com> wrote in > news:1b98a3ff-f8cf-42a9-83ca-3780175399b4@v22g2000vby.googlegroups.com: > >> On Apr 29, 4:02 pm, MarkA <some...@somewhere.invalid> wrote: > >>> If all of creation is being managed by a god who thinks that the >>> Noah's Ark Strategy was a good one, we are ALL in deep doo-doo. > >> Like Noah and his family and all the animals would have been if the >> story were true. :) > > Stinking to high heaven? >

It was worth your life not to have to clean the stalls belowdecks.


duke wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:19:57 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > >> duke wrote: >>> Sounds like you still missed the point. You dont' know if Acts 2 came before or >>> after 1 Cor 11. Maybe you're making the mistake of thinking that because Acts >>> is on page 1141 and 1 cor is on page 1191, then Acts came before 1 Cor. >>> >> Acts 2 comes before 1st Corinthians because Paul doesn't even make an >> entrance until Acts 7 > > Haahaahaaa. I can't believe that you actually think that the bible > presentation is fully chronological in order.

Provide evidence that the travelogue known as the Book of Acts, which is part two of Luke's gospel, is not fully chronological.



duke wrote:

> God is infinitely more knowledgeable than the sum total of all intelligence in > the universe. And I'm infinitely more intelligent than you are.

If you had calculus like you said you did, then you would say the ratio between your intelligence and the intelligence of the other person approaches infinity as a limit. Otherwise you are asserting division by zero, which is forbidden.


David Hartung wrote:

> What "special" rights do corporations have?

Two feminine hygiene product makers can have a legal merger in all fifty states, not just the ones that allow same sex marriages.


Joe Bruno wrote:

> Gun control is the theory that a 90 pound woman should fistfight with rapists. >

It's not about guns, it's about control.


ramrod@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal wrote: >

>> Yeah! What's wrong with those homos? > > Nothing at all, they are just a natural variance of humans such as green > eyes (2%), left handedness (10%) red hair (1-2%) etc..

An Irish Southpaw.


emoneyjoe wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:36:00 -0400, "Bob" <no@email.address> wrote: > >> "linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote in message >> news:cN2dndZKuv_thgHSnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@giganews.com... >>> Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: >>>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:00:34 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Not now. Wait till our debt goes to 230% of GDP like Japan. >>>> Kicking out wingers should be our most important goal. >>> A pox on both houses. Kicking out incumbents of both parties is my most >>> important goal. >> Exactly. Become a DRIP > > What does that stand for, Democrats Remembering > Ideological Partisanship? >

Demlicans and Republicrats Idled Permanently.


Jason wrote:

> I hope that about 20 or more years from now--if America is still a nation > at that time--that scientists will find the evidence that is needed to > prove that God did create life on this earth. > >

What if they find out life on earth was transplanted by a race of alien tourists. Will you worship UFOs?


Jason wrote:

> In most cases, I don't believe I was incorrect. For example, when I state > that Noah's Flood did happen--I don't believe it's a lie but dozens of > posters do believe it is a lie. > >

Lie is such a harsh word. We prefer to say it is a work of fantasy, like The Hobbit.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote: > > He can do anything. He chooses to erase those memories from His mind.

Well that's fine. For a minute there I thought you were going to say God is omniscient.


Devils Advocaat wrote:

> > If I recall correctly your god told Noah to take on board food for > him, his family and the animals. No mention at all of any animals > being made to sleep through either all or even part of the time they > were on the ark.

Ever try to sleep on forty feet of compressed shit?


Dänk 42Ø wrote: > > Obama never ate dog, it is just one of the things he made up in his fake > biography.

So we have the horns of a dilemma. Either he ate dog, or he's a liar.


Patrick wrote: > "linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote >> The Bible defines spirit as the breath of life. These unimportant ones do >> not breathe, so they do not have a spirit. > > Where in the bible can I find this? > >

Genesis 2:7. A human being does not become a living soul until he breathes. This is how a lot of Jews can take a pro-choice position without being ejected from their synagogue by their rabbi.


"Land of the FEE and home of DEPRAVED."

Obama kept his promise to turn the government around, now every day Americans are running for their lives trying not to get run over. Obama's new energy bill will tax the BTU value of farts. He even has a new plan to make sure crime never pays: he's going to nationalize it. All prisoners are to be released after completing Anger Management. US prisons are to become re-education facilities for hate speech.

"Let me be clear, we hold these untruths to be self-evident. It's not 'tax and spend', that is right-wing hate speech. It's 'contribute & invest.'"






John Gilmer wrote:

> > I realize that the legal/technical term is "take" but the public debate > would be a heck of a lot more rational were the process called: "Being > forced to sell at a 'fair' price." That's what actually happens when > the government "takes" private property for a public use.

If I own something, I have the right to keep it, or sell it at any price I choose. If I must sell it, at a price below my asking level, then I don't own something. It has effectively been taken from me.


Don Martin wrote:

> > So far as the north was concerned, the Confederacy was welcome to go, but not to > take the real estate with them.

They could even take the real estate, but they opened fire on Old Glory at Fort Sumter. I have a real problem with that.


1. All Quiet On The Economic Front 2. Apocalypse Dow 3. Barry Potter and the Deathly Panels 4. Citizen Kenyan 5. Crouching Tiger Hidden Taxes 6. Enemy of the States 7. E.T. The Extra Teleprompter 8. Force Ten From Nairobi 9. Invasion of the Income Snatchers 10. Lost In Taxation 11. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the Left 12. No Country For Old Men 13. Raiders of the Last Cent 14. Taxes Chain Saw Massacre 15. Tax Hard with a Vengeance 16. Terms of Entitlement 17. The Incredible Shrinking Polls 18. The Left Side Story 19. The Man Who Shot Liberty 20. The Red Badge of College 21. The Taxorcist 22. This Is Wallet Tap 23. TOTUS: Artificial Intelligence 24. Treasure of the Sierra Club


Phlip wrote:

> ...AND that Bill knows wingnuts like you are most ready to pass credit > to a white for any of Obama's accomplishments.

I'm either a wingbat or a moonnut. When Romney gets in there I'll be flipping tables and cracking my whip just like I am now, speaking truth to power.


In a very dark China Blue, China Blue condition. wrote:

>

> All christians believe in creationism. All christians burn witches. All > christians are catholic and southern baptists. >

That last part is a neat trick. Both at the same time.


Don Kresch wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:52:10 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> > scrawled in blood: > >> Don Martin wrote: >> >>> So far as the north was concerned, the Confederacy was welcome to go, but not to >>> take the real estate with them. >> They could even take the real estate, but they opened fire on Old Glory >> at Fort Sumter. I have a real problem with that. > > Why? It was a foreign army station, no different from how > Cubans view Gitmo. And Lincoln was advised by all of his top military > staff to not resupply the garrison.

Lincoln also swore an oath to defend all US government property. In the end, his oath won out.


Joe Cool wrote: > On Apr 29, 3:49 pm, Our President isnt Funny <ret...@nc.rr.com> wrote: >> They are high because of him & his anti-oil EPA > > EVERY oil industry analyst that I have heard comment on this ALL AGREE > that the President of the US has little to no power over gas prices, > you pathetic clueless babbling fucking asshole moron.

Unless the President is Republican, then it's all about him doing favors for his buddies in the oil industry.


John Baker wrote:

> I *have* listened to the other side, Sport. There's nothing there. You > might as well try to reason with a brick. >

Liberals aren't totally worthless - they can still serve as a bad example. But it's no use giving them a lobotomy, there's nothing to cut.


BroilJAB wrote: > The Shroud now confirmed by latest > science techniques.

Confirmed to be a 14th Century forgery.


David Fritzinger wrote: > > Tax cuts are the most inefficient way for the government to stimulate > the economy. Most of the money goes to the rich, who would spend it > anyway.

You meant to say, most of the money that would be kept by citizens rather than transfered to the government would be kept by the rich. Which makes sense, since rich people make more money, by definition.


Jason wrote: > > It simple--most of the governments in Europe have socialist governments. > Almost everyone that has researched socialist governments have come to > this conclusion: > > Socialist governments eventually run out of money. >

If looters are allowed to run wild, they eventually clean out the store.


BroilJAB wrote: > For over 150 years, evolutionism believers have claimed > that it is actual science. Yet there has never been even > one recorded instance of a 'new species arising by > Natural Selection'.


Well, maybe it takes more than 150 years for a new species to diverge.


Jason wrote:

> > Have you read the article that ICR wrote about sharks? >

The ones with fricken laser on their fricken heads? Now that would be evidence of design.


Richard Steel wrote: > On Apr 29, 4:50 pm, Paul Duca <paul.du...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Really? Name a living conservative who you admire. Almost as hard as me finding one I DON'T... > > You do realize that you just wrote that you admire almost all > Conservatives, don't you?

Man Coulter, Newt Gingrich, Pat Robertson...wow.


Ben Kaufman wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:44:16 -0700, knight@baawa.com wrote: > >> Why do headphones have a left and right side? >> >> What's the point? >> >> Warlord Steve >> BAAWA > > As opposed to?

Moderate headphones?


BroilJAB wrote: > Dawkins has vacated atheism, > > > It's highly plausible that in the universe there > are God-like creatures. - Richard Dawkins

Up here in Washington there's a lot of men who want to be Bigfoot. So you could say there are Bigfoot-like creatures. Doesn't mean there's a Bigfoot.


Yap wrote:

> The low percentage of the atheists in prison means Atheism breeds > moral people.

The parole board selects candidates who successfully bullshit them to the effect that they have amended their lives. The easiest way to do that is to say, "I know I'm done a lot of wrong things in my life, but in here I've found Jesus." That explains the low rate of atheism in prison.


David Fritzinger wrote:

> No, rather to say that people who won't spend the money get to keep it, > thereby providing minimal stimulus bang for the buck. Look at Great > Britain to see how well austerity works in a bad economic climate. Look > at the George W. Bush administration to see how well tax cuts for the > rich stimulate an economy. In both cases, they don't work.

Cash for Clunkers was intended to stimulate the economy, but all it did was incentivize people to line up at the trough and get some of that free money. And when the program ended, so did the economic activity of producing new cars. Only now is the auto industry crawling back. The same thing, on a larger scale, is happening with the $787 billion stimulus. It was supposed to prime the pump with government demand, and when it is taken away (as is the case over this fiscal year) it is supposed to be replaced with real demand. But there is little real demand, because people are deleveraging their position of extreme debt from the days of the housing bubble. The only thing to do is wait for people to dig themselves out. But politicians hate to sit on their thumbs.


nosurrender@never.net wrote: > The Jewish and Christian and Muslim religions are monotheistic. While > their worship is devoted to a single god, other deities are mentioned > in their scripture, just as they are in the scripture of other major > religious traditions. >

That makes them henotheist. A true monotheist will not admit the existence of other deities. And as a consequence, monotheism has no sin of idolatry. Only a henotheistic religion could have a god that was "jealous" and insisted that people have no other gods before him.


Phlip wrote: > On Apr 29, 3:50 pm, MattB <trdell1...@Nomorespamgmail.com> wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 16:41:13 -0600, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote: >>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:24:08 -0700 (PDT), Richard Steel >>> <rsteel2...@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>> "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, >>>>>> nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States >>>>>> respectively, or to the people."

>

> Correct. However, wingnuts have been bamboozled to think the 10th > Amendment somehow means "The gov't may never grant any rights the > Constitution does not expressly endorse." >

That's what "reserved to the States or to the people" literally means.


Jason wrote:

> Life in those days was like being outside in the day time during a major > rain storm or snow storm. The sky is covered with thick clouds but it's > not DARK outside.

Then what was the point of making the stars on day four if no one could see them?

Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years.


Obama's Sauteed Dog Meat Dinners wrote:

>

> Gore's transcript documents that during his sophomore year at Harvard he > earned a "D" in Natural Sciences 6 (Man's Place in Nature).

How inconvenient!


MattB. wrote:

> > Oregon, Washington and Alaska would make a good nation.

Western Oregon and Western Washington would make a good blue nation, Eastern Washington, Eastern Oregon, and Alaska would make a good red nation.


knight@baawa.com wrote: > On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:31:48 +0200, Warhol <molarh@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> The people in Sodom and Gomorrah were partying and having a good time >> till the very last minute >> >> was it worth it? > > I always wanted to die in the saddle.

In the case of Sodom, that saddle came with assless chaps.


Jeanne Douglas wrote:

> Which is WHY your canopy is physically impossible. Because if there > had been a canopy deeper than 656 feet, no sun could have gotten > through it. And a canopy of 656 feet wouldn't have covered a basic > hill, much lest Everest.

They solve that problem by claiming there was nothing but little hills before the flood, and all the serious mountain building took place in the centuries after.


dh@. wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:37:14 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote: > >> Interesting metaphysics. Perhaps you could state how it >> could be confirmed? > > The fact that time can't be detected suggests it's true. The fact that time > as a physically active thing seems like an impossible concept, pretty much does > confirm it.

The Twin Paradox confirms there is no time.

Two twin girls in 2004, one stays home, one flies to Alpha Centauri and back, packing a sack lunch. Eight years real time. The stay-at-home thinks it's 2012, the star pilot twin thinks it's still 2004. What year is it really? Doesn't matter, there is no time, only a now where clocks and heartbeats move at different rates based on their relative motion.



Jeanne Douglas wrote: > On Apr 28, 12:26 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> In article >> <c21ea23f-f613-4d14-b9c5-a5c3da03e...@r32g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, >> >> The point was that there are several types of dating equipment--not just >> carbon 14. > > Carbon 14 is not dating equipment. It's an isotope of the element > carbon. > The actual equipment is a mass spectrograph.


Hannele wrote: > On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:45:59 +0200, Mike Lovell <mike.lovell@null.local> > wrote: > >> Back again after a long break, had some excellent (but very time >> consuming) family and job events. Got to make my billions somehow. >> >> >> I see the same old theist troll faces here. >> >> I was hoping they'd repent and start loving their neighbours (ho-ho-ho)! >> >> >> I take it still no evidence of the almighty has turned up? That's a >> real shocker. >> > Welcome back. Mike, long time no see. :D

You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.


Jason wrote:

> > God allows people to express their free will. It's the same reason God > does not prevent serial killers from killing dozens of people. It's the > same reason God did not kill Hitler when he was a teenage boy. >

Unless you're the Pharaoh of Egypt, then God hardens your heart and makes you deny religious leave to the Hebrews.


Phlip wrote: > On Apr 30, 2:50 pm, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote: >> Obama stole $5 million in graft to okay the >> Solyndra (fake green energy) scam. After he >> okayed $500 million, the next day Solyndra >> took bankruptcy. Now Articles of Impeachment >> have been drafted. > > I'm wondering if there's a single Bush sin you idiots haven't blamed > on Obama yet...

BHO spent the first year of his Presidency apologizing for US greatness, and then the next two years making sure it never happened again.


Jason wrote: > > Keynes claims that taxes should not be raised in economic hard times. > >

Somebody better tell Paul Krugman, his padawan learner.


Joe Bruno wrote:

> In my opinion, the objections to public crosses are a case of > severe paranoia.I have looked at crosses for years and never felt the > urge to convert to Christianity.

I look at waterboarding paraphernalia and never feel the urge to join the CIA.


Jason wrote:

> > Perhaps God caused a miracle to happen to create that Noah's flood water > and later caused a miracle to cause lots of that water to go out into > outer space or onto another planet. >

All you're really sure of is that we're being stubborn in the face of all the evidence of the Flood.


John Doe wrote:

> Looks very much like our Supreme Court is going to reject > Obamacare, not only the individual mandate but also the Medicaid > expansion. The whole 2700 page partisan bill might easily fall.

All they need to do is shoot down the individual mandate and with this very unpleasing sneezing and wheezing the calliope crashes to the ground.


Diogenes wrote:

> Well we all know what they were up to in Sodom (so to speak). > > But have you ever wondered just what they doing in Gomorrah? Inquring > minds want to know.

The psychology of the two towns had been warped somehow by the trauma of being sacked a number of years earlier. They had divided along male and female lines, and the girls all went to Gomorrah. It was guarded by a kind of proto-Amazon army comprised entirely of women who guarded the walls so fiercely that Melchizedek and Abraham could not even approach without drawing fire from sling or bow. But they could stand close enough to see some of the women embracing each other.

The merest rumor that such things were possible could not exist in a patriarchal society. Gomorrah simply could not be permitted to be.

Melchizedek said to Abraham, "Homosexuality by itself does not offend El Shaddai, you must understand. But these two cities have embarked on a dead-end road, my friend."

Abraham said, "I do see it. Only the women can breed, and here they can breed only with the men who are weak enough to be captured by them."

Melchizedek was proud that Abraham had reasoned it out. "This is an offense against the natural law, my friend. But I will do what I can to save your kinsman Lot and all that are his."


duke wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:52:42 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > >> duke wrote: >> >>> God is infinitely more knowledgeable than the sum total of all intelligence in >>> the universe. And I'm infinitely more intelligent than you are. >> If you had calculus like you said you did, then you would say the ratio >> between your intelligence and the intelligence of the other person >> approaches infinity as a limit. Otherwise you are asserting division by >> zero, which is forbidden. > > 1. Forbidden where? > 2. And yes, the ratio approaches infinity. That's why I said what I did.

Black holes are what happens when you divide by zero.


Jason wrote: > In article <xPqdneLe15286wDSnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal > <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > >> Jason wrote: >> >>> I hope that about 20 or more years from now--if America is still a nation >>> at that time--that scientists will find the evidence that is needed to >>> prove that God did create life on this earth. >>> >>> >> What if they find out life on earth was transplanted by a race of alien >> tourists. Will you worship UFOs? > > No--since God may have created life on that planet millions of years ago.

So it's turtles all the way down. Who created the living God?


tirebiter wrote: > On Apr 29, 2:48 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote: >> In article <ddudnVMDLpSJcQbSnZ2dnUVZ_vadn...@giganews.com>, linuxgal >> >> <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote: >>> Jason wrote: >>>> I believe that God created life on this planet. I don't believe it is >>>> possible for life to evolve from non-living matter. >>> The boundary between life and non-life is not very sharp. Google virus >>> or prion. >> Do you believe it is possible for a virus to develop from non-living matter? > > Many viruses don't even qualify as "living matter".

A tobacco mosiac virus is a strand of RNA 6,400 bases long, with a protein coat. Looks like a little bitty cigarette. It can be stored as a crystal indefinitely.


tirebiter wrote:

> > Many cultures have flood myths. None of them are even remotely close > in the stated year of occurrence.

We ourselves have a modern flood myth. Bush didn't give enough money to Katrina and millions of poor black people died.


harry k wrote:

> > Here is a bit of news for you since you seem to unaware of it. The > Nile flooded EVERY YEAR back then and their agriculture depended on > it. >

Sometimes it DIDN'T flood, and they realized they offended the gods.


Lamont Cranston wrote: > > LOL! Obama's economic leadership has orchestrated one of the biggest > economic turnarounds in U.S. history, you fucking idiot.

If you're a liberal, who's reading this newsgroup to you?


A much sharper-than-expected decline in Midwestern business activity in April reported on Monday by an industry group was the latest evidence of a slowdown.

"We had such a strong first quarter, and we've lost that momentum in the last two weeks," said Jake Dollarhide, chief executive at Longbow Asset Management in Tulsa, Oklahoma. The data "reinforces the ominous tone on Wall Street, along with the fears we have about Europe."




2966 Dead wrote: > On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:25:10 -0700, linuxgal wrote: > >> John Doe wrote: >> >>> Looks very much like our Supreme Court is going to reject Obamacare, >>> not only the individual mandate but also the Medicaid expansion. The >>> whole 2700 page partisan bill might easily fall. >> All they need to do is shoot down the individual mandate and with this >> very unpleasing sneezing and wheezing the calliope crashes to the >> ground. > > ...and takes America with it. You must be VERY proud...

If Obama and Biden and Pelosi and Reid were on a sinking ship, who would be saved?

AMERICA!

A Muslim dies and finds himself before the Pearly Gates..

He is very excited, as all his life he has longed to meet the Prophet Mohammad.

Having arrived at the Gates of Heaven, he meets a man with a beard.

"Are you Mohammad?" he asks.

"No, my son. I am Peter. Mohammad is higher up." And he points to a ladder that rises into the clouds.

Delighted that Mohammad should be higher than Peter, he climbs the ladder in great strides, climbs through the clouds coming to a room where he meets another bearded man.

He asks again, "Are you Mohammad? " No, I am Moses. Mohammad is higher still."

Exhausted, but with a heart full of joy he continues to climb the ladder and, yet again, he discovers an even larger room where he meets another man with a beard.

Full of hope, he asks again, "Are you Mohammad?"

"No, I am Jesus.. You will find Mohammad higher up."

Mohammad higher than Jesus!

The poor man can hardly contain his delight and climbs and climbs, ever higher.

Once again he reaches a larger room where he meets a man with a beard and repeats his question:

"Are you Mohammad?" he gasps as he is, by now, totally out of breath from all his climbing.

"No my son.....I am God. But you look exhausted. Would you like a coffee?"

"Yes, please, my Lord."

God looks behind him, claps his hands and calls out:

"Hey Mohammad, two coffees please"

Windows 98 SE is the oldest version of Windows that still gets me online, lets me watch YouTube, and listen to my music. And it's small enough that I can back it all up to a USB stick in just a few minutes.

20120420.txt

John Baker wrote:

Have you tried setting compatibility mode to XP SP3?


I did all that when I was forced to use Vista. Then when I installed Ubuntu over Win7, I discovered the underlying engine of Win7 is Vista. Win7 is just a Vista overlay that kills the annoying popups asking for permission to do this and that, and I knew what was going on. And that explained why Win7 came out so fast with far fewer man-years of elbow grease going into the coding. It's just a user-friendly sheen over Vista.


Caranx latus wrote:


How are they even able to see it? Seeing requires that photons

(physical) coming from an object (physical), whether direct or

reflected, are detected by some sort of retina (physical). If your

spirit body doesn't have the necessary physical apparatus, how can it see?

That was always my objection to the movie The Invisible Man. Even when I was a kid I knew that if photons of light didn't scatter and trigger nerve endings to fire, but passed right through the Invisible Man's retina, then everything was blank to him. Not even black, just nothing, like a blind spot.


Doc Smartass wrote:

SkyEyes <skyeyes9@cox.net wrote in news:eff3fde2-f169-41da-addf-

fa4368e9af4d@b2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:


On Apr 12, 7:24 pm, "panamfl...@hotmail.com rade" <panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:

Just in case you haven't seen it.. >

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKs6ikmrLgg

Excellent! I vividly remember when he went into space. It's good to

mark this anniversary. Thanks, Floyd.


Also the maiden flight of the Columbia shuttle in 1981.


NASA: Need Another Seven Astronauts


BroilJAB wrote:

Mitt Romney is going to be the single

most Moral, most Christian of all presidents.

No dope, no whores, no booze, no queers allowed.

And no more vacations. Mitt will be busier than a Mormon at a wife-swapping party.


TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:



Once women are educated population growth gets under control. Only

Christians live by the credo "multiply and conquer."

But the Way ensures that there's always a counterforce waiting in the wings. Those countries with high birth-rates do not have the excess capital they need to physically conquer their neighbors. Even China, every time they think about messing with someone abroad, soon cuts those plans short when civil unrest arises domestically.


Slackjaw wrote:


No seriously, what were his qualifications to be the best choice to run

our economy?

I don't want anyone running our economy except Adam Smith's dead hand.


BeamMeUpScotty wrote:


Since you're "for" killing babies in the uterus, maybe God is calling it

Social Justice....


The more liberals resort to abortion, the fewer red diaper doper babies we'll have to grow up and become college professors. Now if we can only get the Obama Administration to cease and desist on their War Against Mothers.


Falstaff wrote:



What Would Jesus Do?


Flip some tables and crack his whip.


duke wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:23:19 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:



• An RCC Conformation isn't worth a damn in Baptist Hell Duke.


Yeah, I don't think the baptists know what Confirmation is.

Certainly John the Baptist didn't, and neither did his protege Jesus.


Les Hellawell wrote:

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:25:35 -0700, John Locke >

...for some reason known only to "God", "God" hates amputees. He

apparently also hates victims of Down Syndrome, Sickle Cell Anemia,

Muscular Dystrophy and Multiple Sclerosis. Stange friggen god.


Either that or strange friggen people who invented it and its beliefs.


Leviticus 21:17-21

Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken; No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God.


Catpain 'Merca wrote:


How in the middle of the Cold War did the americans get the Soviets and

Chinese to collude with the hoax? The scientists in those countries did

track the telemetry to the moon. Also in Florida, there was that big pointy

thing which went VOOM! up into the sky.


For about an hour or so after dusk, if you sleep out on your patio, you can see satellites with your own eyes. It's so romantic. "You know, it could be you. It's a sky-blue sky. Satellites are out tonight. Linger on over here. Got the time?"


Jason wrote: >

I am looking forward to heaven and getting a new spirit body.


Fundies go to heaven because hell has first choice.


Jason wrote:

In article <FoKdnZ0XUrE54hrSnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


inhabitants in the Western Hemisphere, here since the last ice age

13,000 years ago, were not killed by the "worldwide" Noahide flood 4,519

years ago.


However, the first and second generations after Noah's Flood was over

could have written down lots of information about what the world was like

at that time.


There's a layer of strata where they find trilobites fossils. And these fossils have the same frequency no matter if they are dug up in Kansas City or in Spokane or in Australia. People like you who compress 300 million years of evolution into as many days fail to see the implication of that: the antediluvian world must have been wall-to-wall trilobites, let alone chock full of all the other animals we find.


SkyEyes wrote: On Apr 12, 7:41 pm, chibiabos <c...@nospam.com wrote:

In article <9unbtfF4b...@mid.individual.net>, felix_unger > <m...@nothere.com wrote:

I just had a visit from the Mormons. I don't know anything about their

religion, but I had to practically slam the door in their face to get

them to leave. they did NOT want to take no for an answer.

I always tell them my great-great-grandfather was John D. Lee (true)

and tell them to look up the Mountain Meadows Massacre. They run off

pretty fast.


This would work well with Mormons, but not with, say, JWs. Answering

the door naked works well with *any* proselytizers.


I have a six-foot tall cardboard Xena standee in the window right next to the door. Startles all of them, makes most of them go away.


Jason wrote:

As you know, sea fossils have been found at the top of the peaks

at the Grand Canyon. The scientists will eventually figure it out.


They did. It's called the plate tectonics paradigm.



CliffB wrote:

Now the Dem establishment is in a cannibalistic feeding frenzy,

throwing each other under buses. Hilary Rosen's a closet Republican,

right?

Republicans, closet or otherwise, do not wage a War on Mothers.


Tronscend wrote:

"Mike Painter" <md.painter@sbcglobal.net skrev i melding

news:7cmdnZf50psaPRrSnZ2dnUVZ5tKdnZ2d@giganews.com... >

And from the old guy, you sir are a Word Star.


Word!


WordStar rocks. Newer is not better.


Christopher A. Lee wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:19:22 -0400, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo.com wrote:


(I think that was a joke.)


Not to an Englishman.


American fundies seem to think the UK is introducing Sharia law.

Tough crowd.


Josef Balluch wrote:


Einstein is not going to save your butt. Einstein wrote of a "cosmic

religious feeling which knows no God and no theology".


You know, Isaac Newton was brilliant when it came to optics and such, but when he went off on all his God shit, not so much.


Ramon F. Herrera wrote:


Linux Gal:


The creators of Linux (trust me, I know them) are on the side opposite

you, not to mention Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, the Google folks, etc.,

etc.

That means nothing to me, other than a silly demonstration of the argument from authority. I don't treat people in groups, but on an individual basis. I don't consider political positions on the basis of what hobbies the person who holds them happens to have on the side, be it collaborating on open source, or working on Apple TV.


Don Martin wrote: linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: sbalneav wrote: yjkooo <yjkbrenda@att.net wrote:

--- Time is relative.

Only if you're travelling at speeds greater than .7C with respect to a

stationary observer. Otherwise it's close enough for gardening work.

If you travel at exactly 0.7071c, then you cross one light-year of space

every year of ship's time. So you feel like you're going at c.


The scenery isn't much, though.


The scenery is distorted a bit by the aberration of light and doppler, but not so much that you can't navigate.


Romney: A Polygamist whose career has been destroying America's middle class wrote: On 4/13/2012 6:03 AM, • R. L. Measures. wrote:


>

    • Wrong title Tracy.

>

Obama's good friend, Hillary Rosen



 Who is not part of any Obama "team" - she works as a commentator ..

The entire Lamestream Media is in the pay of the Obama Administration.


KabukiBob wrote: On Apr 12, 9:22 am, kensmithiscool <kensmithisco...@gmail.com wrote:

On Apr 12, 12:50 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" >

You can imagine me all you ant being all over the place but the

simple reality is that I don't use socks online and that-- unlike

you-- I don't pretend to be what I am not.


(( rolls eyes))


Moe

Maybe he has a socks fetish!


duke wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 05:05:41 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:23:19 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote: > >

• An RCC Conformation isn't worth a damn in Baptist Hell Duke.

Yeah, I don't think the baptists know what Confirmation is.

Certainly John the Baptist didn't, and neither did his protege Jesus.


This one lacks understanding worthy of response.

Is that a promise Duke?


duke wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:46:21 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote:


Eve ate the apple, god cursed her with menstruation.


Not for eating an apple, but for telling God she'll decide what to eat and not

he.

For asserting her God-given free will, in other words.


duke wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:22:11 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote:


On 4/12/2012 8:37 AM, duke wrote: > Actually, he well told us that we are to go forward and demonstrate his love to > all mankind. He told us to "follow me".

LOL Who told you this story? It sounds like a Marine recruiting poster.

It's specifically stated in the Gospels.

Where?


Mark 8:34 (New International Version)

The Way of the Cross

34 Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: “Whoever

wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow

me.

Forward in that case was into the paper-shredder that was Roman capital punishment.


BroilJAB wrote:

Tennessee is enacting laws to compel

Evolutionism to be scrutinized, rejected.

I hope the bill says exactly that: evolutionism.


duke wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:13:43 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote:


On 4/12/2012 8:34 AM, duke wrote:


Where did the concept of a beam of light come from?

God?


Yep.


Said the left hand sockpuppet to the right.


duke wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:07:03 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote:


On 4/12/2012 8:25 AM, duke wrote: >

Blasphemy.

I will continue on with my heathen ways until god tells me otherwise.

Go for it. It's your funeral, not mine. I know he mandated that we help those

in need.


And besides dropping a buck when they pass the basket, how

do YOU help those in need? Do you ever visit prisoners?


I have fellow parishioner friends that do. I have other ministries.


He considers trolling a.a. a ministry.


duke wrote:


The Jews picked one day. No know basis. God gave us the resurrection, and we

keep it. Jesus specifically called it the new covenant in his blood.



Number of humans that have returned from the dead: Zero.


duke wrote:



God gave a clear indication as to which day was His Sabbath with the

manna from Heaven event. I find nothing in the Word of God that would

indicate that the Seventh Day Sabbath has been abolished and replaced

with a Sunday Sabbath. Gordon


He said give him one day every 7th day. They didn't have Sunday thru Saturday

then.


He said REMEMBER the Sabbath and keep it HOLY. Not only have you forgotten that day is Saturday, you deliberately keep the next day holy instead to spite the Creator.


duke wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:17:34 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:



Paul says faith is the evidence of invisible things. Your FAITH is the

evidence.


Nope, my faith is driven by the evidence that can't be denied.


Evidently you do not comprehend the plain text of scripture.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

As I said, Paul taught that faith itself is the evidence and substance of invisible things. To Paul, there was a God because he believed in it.


duke wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:51:11 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


HVAC wrote: On 4/12/2012 7:54 AM, duke wrote: > "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." > I think that was Samuel Clemens.

Why would anyone have faith in something they know isn't true. Faith is

believing in something that can't be proved but has all the evidence

to support

it.

So give me the evidence to support THIS catholic idea about angels. > >

SERAPHIM - sometimes called "the burning ones" because they are closest

to God and radiate Pure Light....


Hey Duke, I got a book that talks about Valar and Maiar and Elves.

That's evidence of Middle-Earth!


I believe in God, you believe in elves.


Same quantity of evidence for both.


kensmithiscool wrote:

>

Well, you truly are desperate enough and appear to have the time to

build your sock factory. You've been outed so many times over the

years, I'm surprised you even bother anymore. Are you telling me that

the peculiar timing of one-month old linuxgal's postings and yours

always being within an hour of each other (at a BL newsgroup of all

places) is just a coincidence??

I'm not posting from a.f.b-l, but alt.atheism. Trim the headers and see!


Mike Painter wrote: On 4/13/2012 5:35 AM, linuxgal wrote: Tronscend wrote:

"Mike Painter" <md.painter@sbcglobal.net skrev i melding

news:7cmdnZf50psaPRrSnZ2dnUVZ5tKdnZ2d@giganews.com... >

And from the old guy, you sir are a Word Star. >

Word! > >

WordStar rocks. Newer is not better.


Ctrl KB Ctrl KC


I found out the hard way that Word Star was mediocre compared with

dedicated word processors of the time.


I demo'd it to a few women who were thinking of moving to computers (64k

CP/M) and they tore it to pieces because of all the missing features

they needed.

I admit Wordstar can't make heads or tails of modern USB printers, but for putting characters one after another it can't be beat.


duke wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:38:01 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:47:08 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > duke wrote: > > If you burn in hell, it's all your fault.

And yet the laws of thermodynamics ensures that God needs to maintain

the flames somehow.

He does that by converting mass into energy, fire in this case. Heeheehee.


Heeheehee....you know that for hell to exist for an infinite time, it

will require infinite mass converted into infinite energy.


The universe contains that.


Nobody knows. That's like standing in an Iowa cornfield with the horizon 16,000 feet away and saying the Earth contains infinite area.


duke wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:17:32 -0400, ThomMadura <Tommadura@optonline.net wrote:


THe fact is - based on the laws of the bible - the god should have been

stoned to death - and an ALL JUST god - knowing it was wrong - would

have allowed it to kill him.


God never harmed a single hair on a human's head.


Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven. Gen.19:24


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote:

On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:12:30 -0700 lsrlts <dddrr@gnail.invalid wrote:


On 4/13/2012 11:48 AM, Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote:

On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:45:38 -0700 lsrlts<dddrr@gnail.invalid

wrote:

> On 4/13/2012 11:38 AM, hanson wrote: > So, you blossom of Jewish intelligence, go collect&

Shut up, nazi vermin.

Godwin's law has been declared. This seems to happen a lot

around here.

Are you a nazi also?


By the use of the word "also," your question is an inductive informal

fallacy assumption because it manipulatively implies invalid information

(which could also be viewed as an ad hominem attack) about Mike Godwin

(who formulated Godwin's law back in 1990).

If this wasn't the alt hierarchy, and therefore moderated, maybe Godwin's would mean something.


$27 TRILLION to pay for Kyoto wrote:


NONE. Nothing is stopping Obama, Soros, Buffett or anyone else from

giving the government more money. But none of them do it because they

want everyone ELSE to. Typical socialist SCUM.

I say we make Obama work for a living, and turn him out of the WH in 2013.


Tom McDonald wrote:


You see, Pascal's Wager assumes the Christian, or at least the

Judeo-Christian/Muslim God. But, if there is a god, you don't have a

very good chance of having chosen the right one, given how many gods

humans have worshiped, with the same fervor as do you, over the course

of human existence.

Me, I wouldn't want to face an angry Flying Spaghetti Monster in the afterlife. He might find my lack of faith disturbing.


Jason wrote:

>

There's a layer of strata where they find trilobites fossils. And these

fossils have the same frequency no matter if they are dug up in Kansas

City or in Spokane or in Australia. People like you who compress 300

million years of evolution into as many days fail to see the implication

of that: the antediluvian world must have been wall-to-wall trilobites,

let alone chock full of all the other animals we find.


God is a miracle working God so could make it happen.

You pulled the Goddidit ripcord. You lose.


Don Martin wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:22:22 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:


God doesn't go for that. So they get there's from satan. >

• So Satan hands out the whopper tits and big dicks?


Whopper tits? I don't think I could deal with the cheese part.


Have it your way. Whopper Junior tits, hold the cheese.


Tom McDonald wrote: On 4/13/2012 5:49 PM, Jason wrote: >

I made a note to find out the names of some of those nutcase dictators on

my other computer. One of them may have been named something like Edie

Emean (spelling??) > >

Idi Amin Dada. Show us where he was an atheist. He was raised and died a

Muslim--though he may have fallen away during his life.


Idi Amin loved his people. In fact he usually had seconds.


2960 Dead wrote:


America used to be a country that thought big about the future. Major

public projects, from the Erie Canal to the interstate highway system,

used to be a well-understood component of our national greatness.

Nowadays, however, the only big projects politicians are willing to

undertake — with expense no object — seem to be wars. Funny how that

works.


Yet somehow both parties seem to be in cahoots on that point, otherwise the wars wouldn't get funded.


BillyBobMarley wrote:


FDR interring thousands of Japanese Americans during WW2 and pray tell

which party was he the leader of?

History lesson over ; case closed.

Swoosh. Nothin' but net.


wy wrote:



So? You'd prefer 100,000 more people out of work and a million other

peripheral job losses instead? Well, sure you would, because that's

the Repugnant way of doing things - backwards, upside down and cock-

eyed and actually believing it'll work.

Porkulus worked! There's millions of new government jobs.


sully wrote:



It's all artificial designation, of course. That's

why stupid right wingers were lynching all

those white people in the south, and why

white people needed a civil rights bill.


Only albinos are white. Everyone else is a shade of brown, and objectively the variation is smaller than you think. And it doesn't matter anyway. The outer layer of skin is dead. All this hate and discontent is over the pigment content of a layer of dead cells.


Linda Austin wrote: On Apr 13, 11:52 am, lsrlts <dd...@gnail.invalid wrote: On 4/13/2012 4:25 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote: >

Millions of Families Are Facing Eviction

Thanks to the Dems and the CRA.


And just who ran the country between 2000 and 2008, when the mortgage

bubble rose and burst? (Hint== Their symbol is an elephant)

Right now there's many families who maxed out their 99 weeks and would love to go back to 2004.


* US * wrote:

On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:47:43 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher" <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com wrote:


On Apr 13, 1:21 pm, * US * wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:53:21 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com wrote:

Senior citizens have a special responsibility for the world because they vote ...

They don't vote, they're stuck with blackboxes, not ballots.

So everything is make believe? A black box is something of a mystery.


If it's electronic, it's no election.

The Four Boxes of Freedom:

1. Soap 2. Ballot 3. Jury 4. Cartridge.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:


Is there a face of raygun at Rushmore


Ronald Wilson Reagan left his mark in this world. Barack Hussein Obama will leave a stain.


Robert Westergrom wrote:



Do YOU have evidence he wasn't born in Kenya? His Aunt claims she was

in the Kenyan hospital when little Baracka was born.

Barack Obama walks into a bar with a parrot on his head.

Bartender goes, "Where'd you get that?"

"Kenya," the parrot replies.


Jason wrote:


If time machines are invented--we could easily figure out who is correct

about how life came to be on this planet.


Somebody goes back in time four billion years, scratches his ass, sees nothing, then goes back where he came from. Dead cells from his ass kickstart life on Earth.

It could happen!


CB@PrayForMe.com wrote:


Woman make 18% less than men in the Oboobuh White House


Watch the clip. AT 5 minutes into the clip Ann Wagner tears Oboobuh up

on women's subservient roles in the White House.

The clip ends when Ann Wagner is told to fetch coffee.


Doc Smartass wrote:


Laundry day: the sock puppets had to be washed.


Letter from the missing sock:

Hate you, hate the dryer, ran away to join the Muppets.


Bradley K. Sherman wrote:



Why do Republicans hate America?


Join me in November to make Michelle Obama ashamed of America again.


Jason wrote:


I have heard testimonies from people that died (usually while being

operated on) but were later revived. They spent several minutes in heaven.

They said that everyone the seen had on white robes.


Death is defined as the irreversible cessation of life.

That means if you come back, you didn't die.


Alan Ferris wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:51:31 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:


And besides dropping a buck when they pass the basket, how

do YOU help those in need? Do you ever visit prisoners?

I have fellow parishioner friends that do. I have other ministries.


Earl is the local embarrassment at his church....but he is not the

only fat one. Most of them are in the obese range


Gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins.



MattB. wrote:



Maybe but I doubt there is evidence to convict on 2nd degree,

Manslaughter maybe. Now it is up to the jury to decide. They could

convict on 2nd degree or manslaughter or acquit.

If Martin had more than Skittles you must give Z-man acquittal.


MattB. wrote:


Very true. Home invaders deserve 6 feet under. Personally I don't

care what race they are. I owe them nothing. Eagle 50 good for that.

Three disabling rounds, center of mass.


Barry OGrady wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:02:16 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:


On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:32:32 +1000, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au wrote: > On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:19:58 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote: >

Nope, God cannot do evil.

Is it evil to cause others to do evil?

Yep.


Then God is evil.

Ezekiel 14:9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.


Dean wrote: On Apr 13, 5:05 pm, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com wrote: On 4/13/2012 1:51 PM, Dean wrote: >

On Apr 13, 11:56 am, "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D."<d...@jameford.edu> wrote: Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:20:57 -0400, HVAC<mr.h...@gmail.com

wrote:

What is .2% of 7 billion? Like a thousand? > 14,000,000

you sure about that, son?

-)

Can't you do simple math doc?

British billion or American billion?


American

Carl Sagan billions.


Eugene Griessel wrote:


But space is not a vacuum you droolingly certifiably stupid moron.

Seeing as you say we have never been there how can you prove it is you

furiously carpet-chewingly nut-cased hampster-sodomizing clot?

Even interplanetary space has about a thousand atoms in every cubic centimeter.


Don Martin wrote:


I think it is significant to mention that Buckwheat was a _black_ kid.

Duke it too chickenshit to admit his racism vis a vis Obama directly. He's

a christian, you see.


Tammy Bruce does the same thing, but calls Obama "Steve Urkel".


Tom McDonald wrote:


IIRC, their argument was that the area destroyed by the volcano showed

the beginning of deep canyons after rains fell on the ash, so the Floode

could have cut the Grand Canyon in a very short time. Silly.


The Kaibob Plateau in Arizona ain't made of freshly-fallen ash.


MattB wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:24:04 -0600, Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:


On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:21:48 -0700, MattB <trdell1234@Nomorespamgmail.com wrote: >

Yeah, they're all wannabee heroes of the looming race war. They've all

read their William Pierce.

No Logans Run.

Logan was a liberal, fighting the what the conservative type

republican world visited on them


 Nice world.  No Logan's run was the dream of every Liberal a world

under their total control. A liberal Computer.  :-)))).


There was no racism.


Nice miniskirts for such a "conservative" place, eh?


HVAC wrote:

On 4/13/2012 2:03 PM, Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: > >

A god believer AND a Trekkie? >

Despite its atheistic roots with Gene Roddenberry, Star Trek's Deep

Space Nine series was apparently designed to appeal to a theistic

audience.



Was that the one with 7 of 9? She was hot.


A lot of people of both genders wanted a little 6 of 9 with her.


Devils Advocaat wrote:

>

Rumour has it there are actually 613 Commandments in the OT, and they

are divided into ten categories.

Three of them command genocide.


Christian Jesus Walker Jr. wrote:



Defenders of slavery argued that by comparison with the poor of Europe and

the workers in the Northern states, that slaves were better cared for. They

said that their owners would protect and assist them when they were sick and

aged, unlike those who, once fired from their work, were left to fend

helplessly for themselves.

Yeah, after their whippings they had the best care available to get them ready to work in the fields again.


casey wrote:


Religious people do worry about death and so there is no point

trying to get them to accept evidence against their views.

They won't even accept the evidence of their own book.

Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.


HVAC wrote: On 4/13/2012 2:17 PM, duke wrote: > >

• Mary was not Roman Catholic, she was a Jewess. >

So was Jesus Christ.


Jesus was a Jewess?


The robe and Birkenstocks worked, but the beard threw off the whole ensemble.


ckdbigtoe@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 14, 4:32 am, Samuel Harrigon <samharri...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Atheistic Friends,

I'd like you to quit being atheists.



As I have said over and over again, I will stop being atheist the very

second that one of you theists can provide direct, science based,

verifiable evidence that your make-believe, cosmic, magical sky-daddy

actually exists. So far, theists have failed this challenge.

That's why they're holding their breath waiting for the Rapture. That'll show us.


Jason wrote:


If they claim to be Christians or Muslims--they are Christians and Muslims

in name only. In other words, they are NOT Christians or Muslims.

The hills are alive with the sound of bagpipes.


Samuel Harrigon wrote:

I MEAN IT!!!!!!! HARRY POTTER IS A REFERENCE TO SATAN AND IS PURE-D

EVIL!!! PLEASE REMOVE ALL OF THE HARRY POTTER MOVIES, BOOKS, AND

ACTION FIGURES FROM YOUR HOME AND BURN THEM!

I recommend the spell "Incendio" to start the fire.


Kent Wills wrote:


    BTW, she already stated she's in alt.atheism.  She's simply

cross-posting to the Lar$on group.

Not deliberately. Maybe from sheer laziness, not trimming the headers.


    I encourage you to accept Jesus and begin the process of having

your demon of lying cast out.

Or better yet (and faster), exercise your free will and choose again, as Aenea said in the Hyperion Cantos. Choose not to lie today!


Alex W. wrote:


It clearly hasn't occurred to Jason that these reports of

near-death experiences may be culturally determined: people see

what they have been conditioned to see. Conduct a similar study

with Muslim subjects, and you will likely end up with a batch of

reports of lush gardens and nekkid girls.


When I was on the operating table I died briefly, and was taken to a world of chocolate.


MattB wrote:



   Still haven't heard any one of the racist here explain why Blacks

kill more Blacks by such a high margin. They don't seem to care about

that.


That itself is racism, to quote statistics based on race. There's no race.


CB@PrayForMe.com wrote:


I wish this were an April Fools' Day joke, but unfortunately it isn't.

As of today, the United States has the highest corporate tax rate in

the world. That honor had previously gone to Japan, whose corporate

tax rate at 39.5% sat just above our 39.2%. As of today, Japan has

lowered their tax rate to 38.01%.

Gosh, now all the illegal immigrants will be clambering to get into Japan instead!


Christopher Helms wrote:


So what's your point? Having done really, really well for himself, President Obama is enjoying the continuation of Bush's 'Go Fuck Yourself, Working Class' tax cuts. He knows it's unfair but every time he mentions that or suggests letting them expire, y


ou asswipes have been trained to scream "Class Warfare" at the top of your lungs.

Yeah, he didn't let the Afghanistan War or Guantanamo Bay thing expire like he promised either. Funny, that.


Obama's War On Women wrote:


Stocks' Weekly Decline Is Worst This Year

There's weather, and there's climate. This is weather.


RichTravsky wrote:


Are you suggesting republiCONS would commit voter fraud?

Who would have ever guessed?? ha! ha!

We know Osama bin Laden really died because he's now registered to vote as a Democrat in Chicago.


Obama's War On Women wrote:



Toyota has expanded the Prius line from one to four vehicles for 2012, and

more makers roll out hybrid models each year, the share of overall U.S.

sales racked up by hybrid-electric vehicles has stayed between 2 and 3

percent for the past few years.

You can shell out for a Prius and get 42 MPG, or get a 2012 Ford Focus and get 42 MPG.


lsrlts wrote: On 4/13/2012 7:24 PM, Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:21:48 -0700, MattB <trdell1234@Nomorespamgmail.com

wrote:

>

Yeah, they're all wannabee heroes of the looming race war. They've all

read their William Pierce. >

 No Logans Run.

>

Logan was a liberal, fighting the what the conservative type


I'm sorry, but are you even partly sane?


"Logan" was a fictional character in some sci-fi writer's fictional

screenplay post modernist failed utopia.

The story started with the 1960s trope "Don't trust anyone over thirty" and ran with it. It postulated a future where everyone was young, because the old were put to death. There were no families, infants were raised by machines. There were no long term pair-bonds, an infinite variety of sex was available on demand. Then Logan and Jessica escaped the city, journeyed to DC, and rediscovered the ancient conservative values of heterosexuality and nuclear families. So no, Logan was not a liberal.


lsrlts wrote: On 4/13/2012 7:38 PM, MattB wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:24:04 -0600, Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: >

On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:21:48 -0700, MattB <trdell1234@Nomorespamgmail.com

wrote:

> > Yeah, they're all wannabee heroes of the looming race war. They've > all > read their William Pierce. >

 No Logans Run.

>

Logan was a liberal, fighting the what the conservative type

republican world visited on them >

  Nice world.  No Logan's run was the dream of every Liberal a world

under their total control. A liberal Computer.  :-)))). >

There was no racism. > >

Think...HAL...

HAL with a sexy contralto.


lsrlts wrote: On 4/13/2012 8:30 PM, RichTravsky wrote:

These hicks will fall for anything.


So...was Kenya a named nation in 1961?


Quick answer please.

It was the 57th state.


Mitchell Holman wrote:

linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in

news:vKednQMfXKpZ6BTSnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@giganews.com:


Jason wrote:

If they claim to be Christians or Muslims--they are Christians and

Muslims in name only. In other words, they are NOT Christians or

Muslims.

The hills are alive with the sound of bagpipes. >


I don't think Jason is aware of the No True Scotsman paradigm.


He is not aware of a great many things. Which explains his belief in post-mortem consciousness.



John Manning wrote: On 4/14/2012 6:25 AM, • R. L. Measures. wrote:

In article<6L-dnZQkpdkaBhXSnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com>, John Manning <jrobertm@terra.com.br

wrote:

>

FILE UNDER: Dumber Than Dirt Sexually Obsessed Republican Freaks >

    • Tight skirts and V-neck sweaters are also a gateway to sexual

activity.


Having genitals is a gateway to sexual activity.


Oh John, make my gateway pearly!


Mitchell Holman wrote:


  Why can the governments of Japan and Germany and

Australia and Denmark and Norway and Argentina provide

health care to all their citizens and the US cannot?


We can, we just don't want to have the inflation of Argentina.


Andy W wrote: On Apr 14, 1:20 pm, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/13/2012 2:03 PM, Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: > > >

A god believer AND a Trekkie?

Despite its atheistic roots with Gene Roddenberry, Star Trek's Deep Space Nine series was apparently designed to appeal to a theistic audience.

Was that the one with 7 of 9? She was hot. >


No, that was Voyager. It amuses me that Jeri Ryan is the only one from

that series I have seen in anything else afterwards.

She married a Republican and after that no one in Hollywood would touch her with a 3.048 meter pole.


Rabbi Steinberg wrote: On Apr 14, 9:03 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Samuel Harrigon wrote:

I MEAN IT!!!!!!! HARRY POTTER IS A REFERENCE TO SATAN AND IS PURE-D

EVIL!!! PLEASE REMOVE ALL OF THE HARRY POTTER MOVIES, BOOKS, AND

ACTION FIGURES FROM YOUR HOME AND BURN THEM!

I recommend the spell "Incendio" to start the fire.


Burning Beatles recordings on MP3 is tough because iPods are like

Cockroaches.

You can go:

mv *.mp3 /dev/null

Not quite as satisfying. Less of that burnt vinyl smell.


Mitchell Holman wrote:




  If the Apollo astronauts didn't place the laser reflectors

that astronomer continue to bounce signals off of on the moon

then who did?


Certain astronomers are paid to report that their lasers are successfully being reflected from the moon.


HVAC wrote:


Time Travel was always my favorite sub-genre of sci-fi.


Even if you had a time machine, there would be no available destination. There is no future, nothing for a god or prophet to foresee, and the only past which endures exists in physical records (subject to redaction) and human memories. There is no time, there is only a universal eternal NOW, but clocks and heartbeats can beat slower or faster depending on their relative motion or position within a gravity well.


hypatiab7 wrote:


Worrying about death is

pointless and a waste of time. You do know that there are

anti-depressants that can help you, I hope.

No man by taking thought can add one day to his allotted span, but he can certainly take days away, through stress.


hypatiab7 wrote:


Wow! Why on or off Earth would anyone want to become Ed Conrad?! It's just

as weird as when Steve Boursey became the phony Ed Crouteau.

Shatner: "So what are you saying, Spock? Are you saying...Wretch Fossil...has become...Ed Conrad?"



casey wrote:



We may give our lives meaning in the short term

but in the long term it doesn't matter if we gave

it meaning or not. >

There is no meaning for you individually, but you can make the lives of people around you better, and that will survive your death.



Jason wrote:

In article <IJKdnWRKAPZ4ShXSnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote: >

I have heard testimonies from people that died (usually while being

operated on) but were later revived. They spent several minutes in heaven.

They said that everyone the seen had on white robes. >

Death is defined as the irreversible cessation of life. >

That means if you come back, you didn't die.


My physical body would be DEAD. However, my spirit body and your spirit

body will live forever in hell or in heaven.

Spirit bodies are fiction, just like third eyes.


Jason wrote:



Since Noah's flood happend so many years ago, any articles that were

written about it in those days has been lost or has rotted away.

Good enough. So now do not claim your Noah story has a basis in fact outside of your own holy writ, because as you say, "any articles that were written about it have been lost or rotted away".



Dänk 42Ø wrote: On 04/13/2012 10:14 PM, Billary wrote:

Fear for his life...reasonable doubt all the way around. No

conviction. Hung jury.


You forget that while Zimmerman's case for self-defense may be sound

enough, that members of the jury know their lives are in danger if they

return anything but a guilty verdict.


Then this isn't America anymore.


Sid9 wrote:


Electric and hybrid are unstoppable.

US Gasoline consumption will plunge.

Then world gasoline consumption will slow its rapid growth as places

like India and China

Typical liberal. Gasoline is bad. Money comes from the government. Food comes from Safeway. Electricity comes from wall outlets.


BroilJAB wrote:

Harvard Law School will offer a course this

spring called Understanding Obama.

I hope they teach students how to say, "You want fries with that?"


MattB. wrote:



If Obama gets his way all law abiding citizens will be victims of the

scum bags. The far left would have only criminals armed, then again

the far left are a bunch of criminals and we OWE them.


Obama would ban a quadraplegic from bearing arms.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:



"linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in message

news:X9SdnT2OIeenUhXSnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com... >

Only albinos are white. Everyone else is a shade of brown, and

objectively the variation is smaller than you think. And it doesn't

matter anyway. The outer layer of skin is dead. All this hate and

discontent is over the pigment content of a layer of dead cells.


No, the hate is because the different races act differently from each

other. It has nothing to do with their color. Whites hate blacks

because they think they are all criminals. Blacks hate whites because

they think they have been treating them like shit for hundreds of years.

All this hatred is based on grouping individuals into arbitrary sets based on the reflectivity of their skin. But everyone is pink on the inside.


Billy-Bob Thorton wrote:


I haven't seen no negras referenced in the Holy Book, so that proves

that Jesus was white and spoke American, or was that Aramaic?

Song of Solomon 1:5 I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.


Patrick wrote:

"William Smith" <smith.w@truth.gov.oc wrote in message

news:jmaorr$mgn$1@dont-email.me... On 04/12/2012 12:32 AM, J wrote:

As more and more gays are being weeded out of the clergy, the incidents

of sexual abuse have plummeted drastically. The pontiff, Pope Benedict

XVI deserves ALL of the credit. >

"Pope Benedict XVI deserves ALL of the credit" means that his

predecessor, "blessed" (that's beatified) John Paul II deserves all

the blame for covering it up, right? After all, he was reigning for

almost 27 years.


That is a stupid statement.

The peak of clerical child abuse occurred prior to JP2's reign.

The peak of clerics getting *caught* maybe. Who knows what happened when it was hushed up.


Catpain 'Merca wrote:



BTW, I don't think you can mv files to /dev/null. I'm out of date with

UNIX/Linux but unless there's a file system called null, it ain't gonna work.

Probable error would be 'directory not found'.


Booted Puppy Linux 4.1.2 into RAM from the live CD, launched a terminal session, went to my-documents under root, there's a help text file in there, issued mv *.txt /dev/null and the file disappeared.


casey wrote: On Apr 14, 10:54 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: casey wrote: >

Religious people do worry about death and so there is no point

trying to get them to accept evidence against their views.

They won't even accept the evidence of their own book. >

Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead

know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory

of them is forgotten.


Actually some Christians do believe that text.


They however also believe God can bring them back from that state.


It is the state we were in before conception so you can't deny

that it is possible as you are living proof to the contrary.

You make a classic blunder right there. What I am has been painstakingly assembled over the course of my lifetime. So prior to my conception, there was no "me" to be in any state. Do you see?


Androcles wrote:


Same goes for your Moon from Earth measurement. You can

measure the change very precisely as the distance varies in the

elliptical orbit of the Moon, but you have no way to accurately

measure the distance using lasers. Any such claim is pure bullshit.


Scientists are not limited to the light reflector at the Apollo 11 site.

  They use radar with such precision it can generate very accurate 

topographical maps of craters based on the delay between return signals.


DanS wrote:

linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in

news:GKednTytRJUB7BrSnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@giganews.com:


John Baker wrote:

I was fond of XP myself, and much preferred it over Vista,

but I think if and when you make the change, you'll be

surprised at how much better than XP Win 7 actually is.

I'm running 7 Ultimate x64 with SP1 and have no

complaints.

Win7 has the same problem Vista has, it won't run the

music-making software I bought in the XP era.


And the title of this un-named music-making s/w?

Cakewalk Kinetic 1.0.

Cakewalk Plasma.

Also, .AVI video files won't work under Vista. They fixed that in Win7.




George Kerby wrote:


I would surmise, by these deviant posts, that our boy Pauline may have a

connection. My guess is that he has neighbors' unwashed underwear hanging on

his walls that he has stolen from their laundry baskets in his Projects'

Laundromat.


Arnold Layne has a strange hobby!


Sid9 wrote:


"linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in message

news:iqidnfFDKr3XHxTSnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@giganews.com... Sid9 wrote: >

Electric and hybrid are unstoppable.

US Gasoline consumption will plunge.

Then world gasoline consumption will slow its rapid growth as places

like India and China >

Typical liberal. Gasoline is bad. Money comes from the government.

Food comes from Safeway. Electricity comes from wall outlets.


Typical RRR......Regressive...trying to stop the flood of progress

towards more energy efficient vehicle in the face of rising energy costs

Energy efficient my ass. Are you aware of the second law of thermodynamics? Every time you add a "middle man" you lose usable energy to friction, hysteresis losses, etc. Energy is mined from the earth, and you can either (A) burn it directly in a vehicle, or you can burn it (B) in a power plant, then use that power to charge the batteries of a vehicle. Plan B is far more inefficient than Plan A. But it makes libs FEEL good.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:48:49 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


MattB wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:24:04 -0600, Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: >

On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:21:48 -0700, MattB <trdell1234@Nomorespamgmail.com wrote: >

Yeah, they're all wannabee heroes of the looming race war. They've all

read their William Pierce. >

No Logans Run.

Logan was a liberal, fighting the what the conservative type

republican world visited on them

 Nice world.  No Logan's run was the dream of every Liberal a world

under their total control. A liberal Computer.  :-)))). >

There was no racism. >

Nice miniskirts for such a "conservative" place, eh?


You think garb is the delineation of ideology


In the case of Logan's Run, yeah.

http://content6.flixster.com/photo/14/08/43/14084396_ori.jpg

If that's a conservative city, the liberal one must be really swinging.



Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 06:13:20 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Christopher Helms wrote: >


Yeah, he didn't let the Afghanistan War or Guantanamo Bay thing expire

like he promised either. Funny, that.


Funny thing--there is no one (other than really dumb assholes) that

believe a war can be shut off at will.

Not with the stranglehold the Military Industrial Complex has over this country. You're right.


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 08:07:16 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Catpain 'Merca wrote: >

BTW, I don't think you can mv files to /dev/null. I'm out of date with

UNIX/Linux but unless there's a file system called null, it ain't gonna work.

Probable error would be 'directory not found'. >

Booted Puppy Linux 4.1.2 into RAM from the live CD, launched a terminal

session, went to my-documents under root, there's a help text file in

there, issued mv *.txt /dev/null and the file disappeared.


I tried Puppy but couldn't get it to recognise a USB wireless adapter

at all. in an elderly Dell laptop, even using ndiswrapper and a

working XP driver.

Just for shits and grins, and because it's HARD, I run Windows 98SE. The only way I could get online was use a plug-and-play $8 USB ethernet adaptor, because the computer itself is newer than Windows 98, and HP didn't write a network driver for Win98SE. Same thing with sound. Use a $6 USB sound card. In your case, maybe you could go to a PC recycling place and find some old PCMCIA card that'll work.


Devils Advocaat wrote: On Apr 14, 1:45 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Devils Advocaat wrote: >

>

>

Rumour has it there are actually 613 Commandments in the OT, and they

are divided into ten categories.

Three of them command genocide.


Only three?

Well, they only apply to Amalekites. Some loony rabbis define Palestinians and Iranians as modern-day Amalekites, however.


BillW50 wrote:


I too like XP far better than Windows 7/8. And some of XP software won't

run under Vista/7/8 either. But that is what virtual machines are for.

Although if you are going to go through all of that trouble, why not run

the real OS anyway?


I installed XP in Ubuntu under Virtual Box, but the USB support sucks.

 I couldn't get it to pick up my proprietary Turtle Beach USB MIDI 

cable. I went to a guitar shop in Tukwila, and they have generic MIDI cables that might work, but they want $60. So I just installed XP to an older used computer and everything runs hunky dory. My den is now a time machine set for 2004.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote:

On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 19:41:57 -0700 (PDT) BroilJAB <DesignDenier@wmconnect.com wrote:


When the supposed transmuting cow learn

to drink seawater?


Ask the Creationists who invented that theory.


I don't think dolphins drink seawater anyway. They get all their water from the fish they eat.


Bret Cahill wrote:

It's true: No less than 7 revolutionary state constitutions had an

absolute ban on atheists running for office.


History is filled with such crap. Oregon used to have a law that said any black people found inside the state lines after such-and-such a date would get flogged.

http://www.historicoregoncity.org/end-of-the-oregon-trail-history/oregon-trail-history/100-blackhistorytimeline

1844: The infamous "Lash Law," requiring that blacks in Oregon -- be they free or slave -- be whipped twice a year "until he or she shall quit the territory," is passed in June. It is soon deemed too harsh and its provisions for punishment are reduced to forced labor in December.


Jeanne Douglas wrote:

In article

<2ed630c8-8f87-45c4-af93-4ad842114932@h4g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,

BroilJAB <DesignDenier@wmconnect.com

wrote:


That move by Obama instantly cost him the

key womens' vote in Ohio and Indiana.


What move are you talking about?


Mr. Vice President, Mr. Speaker, members of the Senate and the House of Representatives: On April 11, 2012 — a date which will live in infamy — housewives and mothers across America were suddenly and deliberately attacked by the media forces of the Empire of Obama.


BV BV wrote:

ISLAM AND WOMEN





In Islam, men and women are different from each other...

In non-Islam, men and women are different from each other too. That's kind of the whole point.


duke wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 05:05:41 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:23:19 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote: > >

• An RCC Conformation isn't worth a damn in Baptist Hell Duke.

Yeah, I don't think the baptists know what Confirmation is.

Certainly John the Baptist didn't, and neither did his protege Jesus.


Jesus gave us Confirmation.


He didn't even give us Baptism.

John 4:2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples)



Christopher A. Lee wrote:



And when they die they they realise they've been lied to all their

life - which is why the RCC has the last rites to comfort the dying.

Actually they don't, because they need a brain to realize things, and their brain turns to pudding.


Olrik wrote:

Le 2012-04-13 13:02, sbalneav a écrit : linuxgal<linuxgal@cleanposts.com

wrote:

Christopher A. Lee wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:19:22 -0400, Olrik<olrik666@yahoo.com

wrote:

> > (I think that was a joke.) >

Not to an Englishman. >

American fundies seem to think the UK is introducing Sharia law. >

Tough crowd. >

They should try the fish.


The veal. Always chose the veal.


The life of everyone on board depends upon just one thing: finding someone back there who can not only fly this plane, but who didn't have fish for dinner.


William Smith wrote: On 04/13/2012 10:51 PM, BroilJAB wrote:

Tennessee is enacting laws to compel

Evolutionism to be scrutinized, rejected.


And Saudi Arabia never taught evolution.

That's why we don't have a Silicon Valley in Tennessee or Saudi Arabia.


Allyn Rentsch wrote: On 4/14/2012 7:40 AM, Sid9 wrote:


Limbo's been saying that only a true conservative can win and that

Romney is not a true conservative.

That being true, he needs to balance the ticket with either Santorum or

West


Except that neither of them are "true" conservatives. They're

true reactionary nutjobs, desperate to drag Americans kicking

and screaming to a crazed delusional version of the past,

circa 1952 or so, that never really existed.


There's no intellectual underpinning to American politics these days. It's all nothing but pure tribalism, "Yay for the Red Team, boo for the Blue Team!" Libs are not upset that Gitmo is still open and the War in Afghanistan is still raging, because "Those are our airplanes now!"


Rabbi Steinberg wrote: On Apr 14, 12:20 am, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net wrote:

In article

<2ed630c8-8f87-45c4-af93-4ad842114...@h4g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, >

BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com

wrote:

That move by Obama instantly cost him the

key womens' vote in Ohio and Indiana.

What move are you talking about?


Mel Gibson is an incredible man when it comes to movie making, and a

devout Catholic.

He's also got what could only be described as a torture fetish. I mean,

 jeez, look at any one of his films.


chibiabos wrote: In article <5i7apn.j3l.17.1@news.alt.net>, <jdyoung1@ymail.com wrote:


I was flabbergasted when I first read about this story, but was relieved

to learn that the President and I are on the same page about the value

of women who place their love for their children above personal

ambitions. The stay-at-home mother


Ann Romney was never a stay at home mother, She had nannies, nurses,

gardeners, maids, servants, pool boys, chauffeurs, tutors, handymen,

chefs, personal assistants, tax advisors, investment counselors, and

the entire Board of Bain Capital to see her through the "bad" times,

such as when her pedicurist couldn't match her nails to her eye shadow

or her Forever 21 underwear.


As a working mother, she is a joke to real working mothers everywhere.


Keep it up, libs. The attack on Mrs. Romney is polling really good for ya.


duke wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:09:30 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:46:21 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote: >

Eve ate the apple, god cursed her with menstruation.

Not for eating an apple, but for telling God she'll decide what to eat and not

he.

For asserting her God-given free will, in other words.


But he told her NO first.

Eve didn't know it was evil to disobey God's "no" because that knowledge

 only came after eating the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good 

and Evil. So you have a chicken and egg problem.


duke wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 06:02:01 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote:


On 4/13/2012 3:05 PM, duke wrote: > Christians state that everything needs a creator.....where is the > creator of the creator? >>

He created Himself

How can one create itself?

Exactly.


Yet no one can answer where God comes from.


No one can answer where the universe comes from either. Occam suggests you lop off all the middle men.


duke wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:13:07 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:13:43 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote: > On 4/12/2012 8:34 AM, duke wrote: > Where did the concept of a beam of light come from?

God?

Yep. >

Said the left hand sockpuppet to the right.


If you have a better answer, I'd like to hear it.

The concept of a beam of light occurred to a man standing at the front door of his cave 25,000 years ago who saw the sun backlighting a thunderhead, and the sunlight was broken up, and illuminated the flats below his cave in a kind of glory.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2107/2063597066_ad7539991e.jpg



duke wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 05:44:23 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote:


On 4/13/2012 2:39 PM, duke wrote: >

I was taught to go to church on Sunday or it's a mortal sin.

Have they changed that?

I go to Mass Monday thru Saturday. But not on Sunday. You tell me.


Advise you to dress lightly.


I keep 6 days holy. Those going to Church only on Sunday only keep 1.

Heeheehee.


You disobey God's command to work six days a week.

Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work



duke wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:22:56 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:17:34 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > >

Paul says faith is the evidence of invisible things. Your FAITH is the

evidence.

Nope, my faith is driven by the evidence that can't be denied.


Evidently you do not comprehend the plain text of scripture.


Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the

evidence of things not seen.


But we do have evidence that is seen.


We have evidence of things which are seen, but we do not have evidence of things which are not seen. Paul says faith is that evidence.


duke wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:23:28 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: >

I believe in God, you believe in elves.


Same quantity of evidence for both.


All evidence to be found is FOR the existence of God. There is exactly no

evidence, no reason to profess that God does not exist.

Your god is indistinguishable from a god that does not exist.


Orval Fairbairn wrote:


Electrics are nothing but expensive paperweights! That is why they died

out 100 years ago and are costing billions to resurrect into zombies.

It's a no brainer. You burn coal or natural gas to make power, then run that power through a transformer to 25,000 volts (with hysteresis losses), run that down transmission lines for fifty miles (with resistance losses), then drop it down in voltage at a substation (more hysteresis losses), then through lines to the house (more resistance losses), convert to DC, charge a battery (by separating ions in a chemical solution, with more losses), then those ions are allowed to mix again, and finally you get some useful work done turning the wheels of your car.

Or you could just burn gasoline and turn the wheels of your car.


Old Pif wrote: On Apr 13, 4:15 pm, "Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net wrote:


I strongly recommend either of two true conservatives, Rick Santorum or Alan

West.

I chose those to balance Romney's liberal tendencies


For entertainment purposes they need somebody like Sara Palin. A

series of Sara Nude images alone has been enough to prove the expenses.

Most people would claw their eyes out.


C. A. Rotwang wrote:

John Baker wrote


So when a conservative lies through his teeth about someone, that's

"political strategy", but when a liberal tells the truth, that's an

"attack." Is that about it? >


"I did not have sex with that woman" was an unmittigated lie!


That was Bill Clinton.


I didn't give a fuck who he had sex with, as long as there was a budget surplus. And there was, three years running.


John Baker wrote:


So when a conservative lies through his teeth about someone, that's

"political strategy", but when a liberal tells the truth, that's an

"attack." Is that about it?



Honesty in politics is much like oxygen. The higher up you go, the scarcer it becomes.


duke wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 09:07:13 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 05:05:41 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > duke wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:23:19 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote: >> >>

• An RCC Conformation isn't worth a damn in Baptist Hell Duke. > Yeah, I don't think the baptists know what Confirmation is.

Certainly John the Baptist didn't, and neither did his protege Jesus.

Jesus gave us Confirmation.


He didn't even give us Baptism.

John 4:2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples)


An interesting comment, a dumb, one, but interesting. He was the first baptized

- something he didn't need.

If Jesus was baptized, then the sacrament precedes Jesus, as surely as Confirmation post-dates Jesus, as indicated before.

Now the sacrament of penance, that was instituted by Christ. No argument there.


John Baker wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 06:59:52 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


BroilJAB wrote:

Harvard Law School will offer a course this

spring called Understanding Obama.

I hope they teach students how to say, "You want fries with that?"



There are already righties lined up around the block for those jobs.



In Socialist America a job is a coveted status symbol, much like a house or 401-K used to be.



Tracey12 wrote:

Fast food over the past three Obama years has become almost inedible

because of scaling back on the size and quality of meat that is used

in burgers, tacos, etc.


Hand me that dolphin-burger, yeah, the one in the styrofoam.


BillW50 wrote:



It is funny, I have been running Windows since '93. And it always was

that the newer version of Windows had a must have feature that I just

really needed. Although after XP, this all stopped! There is no must

have features anymore. And without them, I am just not impressed!


Same thing with Ubuntu. I'm all about Gnome. They changed the windows manager after 10.10 and now they don't even include Gnome as a fallback.

 So now I'm like a fly in amber, forever frozen at 10.04.


John Locke wrote:

>

Theists just can't seem to function without thanking their god and/or

Jeebus 15 times per day. That's worse then being addicted to crack.

I wish Catholic clergymen were addicted to a different kind of crack.


Orly Taitz wrote: On Apr 14, 9:59 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: BroilJAB wrote:

Harvard Law School will offer a course this

spring called Understanding Obama.

I hope they teach students how to say, "You want fries with that?"


Isn't that a euphemism for "No Child Left Behind"?


Or is "euphemism" not taught in home school 'cause the word is "too

meaty"?


Catholic schools, it's No Child's Behind Left Alone.


Socialist w/ knife & fork wants to meet capitalist w/food


duke wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:53:17 -0400, ThomMadura <Tommadura@optonline.net wrote:



So - YOU are claiming you cannot be educated then!


I already am. But you aren't. >

You make Jason look like Doogie Howser.


Bert wrote:

In news:bcejo75ma0g22n0ihnu01vh7o80nn2jsjm@4ax.com Alan Ferris

<hairy.ferrit@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


Seems New Hampshire is the place to live.


No permit required to buy a gun, no gun registration, same "shall

issue" carry laws as in the majority of the states.


To deter crime, place a gun nut behind every dead bolt.



duke wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:43:03 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:17:32 -0400, ThomMadura <Tommadura@optonline.net wrote: >

THe fact is - based on the laws of the bible - the god should have been

stoned to death - and an ALL JUST god - knowing it was wrong - would

have allowed it to kill him.

God never harmed a single hair on a human's head.


Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire >from the LORD out of heaven. Gen.19:24


When did anyone see the Lord do that?

The Council of Trent says that is inspired scripture.

Vatican I says it is without error.

"The books of the Old and New Testament, whole and entire, with all their parts, as enumerated in the decree of the same Council [Trent] and in the ancient Latin Vulgate, are to be received as sacred and canonical. And the Church holds them as sacred and canonical not because, having been composed by human industry, they were afterwards approved by her authority; nor only because they contain revelation without errors, but because, having been written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, they have God for their Author."

Repent.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:31:27 -0700 linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:53:17 -0400, ThomMadura <Tommadura@optonline.net wrote: >

So - YOU are claiming you cannot be educated then!

I already am. But you aren't.

You make Jason look like Doogie Howser.


That's quite a few steps up for Jason.


So much the worse for Duke.


duke wrote:


Nobody has ever met God.


Do you deny that people met Jesus, or that Jesus is not God?


duke wrote:


God didn't cause evil. Evil comes from you listening to satan instead of God.


Sometimes God and Satan tell people to do the exact same thing.

1 Chronicles 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

2 Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.


Hägar wrote:

"HVAC" <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote in message

news:jm95h0$kcr$1@hvac.motzarella.org...

LOL Fuck em.


I think the missile simply self destructed due to shoddy whatever.

So if the Norks build missles and stuff for Iran, more power to 'em.


duke wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:38:56 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:38:01 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > duke wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:47:08 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: >> duke wrote: > > If you burn in hell, it's all your fault.

And yet the laws of thermodynamics ensures that God needs to maintain

the flames somehow. > He does that by converting mass into energy, fire in this case. Heeheehee.

Heeheehee....you know that for hell to exist for an infinite time, it

will require infinite mass converted into infinite energy.

The universe contains that.


Nobody knows. That's like standing in an Iowa cornfield with the

horizon 16,000 feet away and saying the Earth contains infinite area.


WEELLLLLLLLLLL, now you're beginning to understand a global flood.

I don't understand a global flood. I don't understand people who understand global floods.


duke wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:14:08 +1000, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au wrote:


You can't have free will if God is in full control


A God who knows the future without error also negates free will. Think about it.


2960 Dead wrote:


And yet, right wing cunt that you are, you don't dare acknowledge that

Faux is a danger to American freedom.


President Obama believes Fox News is not a legitimate news organization. Kenya believe that?


...it's one damn thing over and over. Bad ideas in search of a big budget. Communism without the firing squad. If liberalism is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question!


Alan Ferris wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:57:23 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:


He didn't even give us Baptism.

John 4:2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples)

An interesting comment, a dumb, one, but interesting. He was the first baptized

- something he didn't need. Yet the Father and the Holy Spirit were present at

his baptism, the only time in known history that all 3 were active at one time..


3 gods...damn you weird people who cannot be satisfied with one god.

How many Christians does it take to change a lightbulb?

Three, but they're really one!


Free Lunch wrote:



But the gospels make it clear that baptism predated Jesus' teachings. I

have no idea if the gospels are accurate, but your quote implies that

Jesus was endorsing baptism, not instituting it.

John the Baptist did it before Jesus, obviously, since he baptized Jesus. And John might have been a padawan learner himself who got it from Yoda or shit.


HVAC wrote: On 4/14/2012 1:16 PM, linuxgal wrote: >

Eve ate the apple, god cursed her with menstruation. > Not for eating an apple, but for telling God she'll decide what to > eat and not > he.

For asserting her God-given free will, in other words. >

But he told her NO first. >

Eve didn't know it was evil to disobey God's "no" because that knowledge

only came after eating the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good

and Evil. So you have a chicken and egg problem.



Remind me never to enter a debate with you.



Thanks for the compliment. But against Duke I feel like I'm flooring it in neutral.


A Compendium of Unbroken Obama Promises

A Job Seekers' Guide To Career Opportunities for Womens' Studies Majors

A Liberal's Guide To Logical Thinking

Countries That Like Americans

European, African, South American and Asian Countries Competing in the World Series

The Case For Making Extraordinary Efforts in End of Life Care by Dr. Jack Kevorkian

The Contributions of the Obama Administration To A Free Press


1treePetrifiedForestLane wrote:

that is an important constraint on what ever, but

it still doesn't get to the matter, of whether a)

the three main icesheets are or are not growing

in total volume or mass of ice.

Global warming is caused by friction as the Founding Fathers roll over in their graves.


cloud dreamer wrote: On 14/04/2012 4:32 PM, trotsky wrote: >

"Mitt! I need to give the kids their allowance--do you have change for a

thousand?"


Change for a thousand? Are you kidding??? Those people don't handle

cash. That's dirty. They use those plastic cards that the kids just have

to swipe to have anything they want.

Change for a thousand won't sound so funny when we're rolling a wheelbarrow of Benjamins to the store to buy a wallet.


The Eat Your Peas President wrote:

  Julie Louise Dryfuss is against big oil. Figures a multi

millionaire would. A person who endorses looney left wing policies

that will never ever have an effect on her.

Liberals never solve problems, they institutionalize them.


Linda Austin wrote:


AIr pollution, ground pollution, your country dependent upon oil

imports from parts of the world where they loathe us? None of this

affects her? Tell us, do you start each day with a plan for making an

ass of yourself or does it just flow naturally?

If they ever figure out a way to make energy from cellulite, America is the Saudi Arabia of cellulite.


The Eat Your Peas President wrote:

  Libya was a peace loving country

Sure, as all the unmolested synagogues and churches there attest.


2960 Dead wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:48:15 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


President Obama believes Fox News is not a legitimate news organization.

Kenya believe that?


Faux News isn't. In fact, all cable news is complete crap, fit only for

morons.


"First they came for Fox News, but I did nothing because I was a reporter for MSNBC..."



duke wrote:



Well, I do know that God gave man a way to follow to get to heaven. And an ape

cannot respond to that message due to lack of intelligence. So it's reasonable

to expect that apes are not in heaven. It's a logical deduction.


So salvation comes by knowledge. Gnosis. Duke is a gnostic.


Harold Burton wrote:



Leftard rule #1: Lie, lie again, then lie about lying.


Obama's Declaration of Dependence on the Nanny State: "We hold these untruths to be self-evident..."


Linda Austin wrote:


That should be "Kindness doesn't worth with these people (Linuxgal and

the pea-eater)."

Obamacare combines the efficiency of the postal system with the kindness of the IRS.


John Baker wrote:


Pro-atheist, perhaps, but her snide, insulting remarks re. liberals

will do little to endear her to the majority of a.a regulars.


Which will only support my thesis that US politics is about tribalism instead of ideas. Go Seahawks, die Cowboys.


Andy W wrote:



That isn't why electric cars aren't catching on though. The problem is

that it can take 8 hours or more to fully recharge an electric car,

compared to maybe 5-10 minutes tops to refuel a petrol car.

I would support electric cars if they drew their power from solar panels on one's roof. I'd be all for that.


10. Mr. Obama can't wait until no one is left working in this country, because, hey, at least the unemployment numbers will stop going up!

9. Mr. Obama does the work of three men: Larry, Moe & Curly.

8. Mr. Obama doesn't have a backbone, just a very large wishbone.

7. Mr. Obama has LOTS of fans... they help diffuse the odor of his policies.

6. Mr. Obama is proof that liberals will vote for anybody.

5. Mr. Obama is the best hope? That's like saying Moe was the smart Stooge.

4. Mr. Obama kept his promise to turn the government around, now everyday Americans are running for their lives trying not to get run over.

3. Mr. Obama promised change, instead he's changed all his promises.

2. Mr. Obama stopped the rising of the seas but he can't deal with Fox News.

1. Mr. Obama wants you to trust him to manage a national health care system, but he won't trust you to manage a handgun.



Wombat wrote:


Even better, around 2,200 BC the Old Kingdom in Egypt collapsed. A

tomb has been discovered that dates from the interregnum that mentions

there had been a prolonged drought! This has been subsequently

verified.

<eyeroll>Oh golly, that's great support for the Bible. And all the places where it says this or that fortified city would be sacked, and the city was subsequently sacked, why, that makes the Bible airtight.</eyeroll>


2960 Dead wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:37:23 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


2960 Dead wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:48:15 -0700, linuxgal wrote: >

President Obama believes Fox News is not a legitimate news

organization. Kenya believe that?

Faux News isn't. In fact, all cable news is complete crap, fit only

for morons. > >

"First they came for Fox News, but I did nothing because I was a

reporter for MSNBC..."


You may go back to bashing NPR now...


New People's Radio?


Al wrote:



Ed Schultz blamed Jeb Bush.

Blamed him for what? That his six extra large pizzas were late being delivered to the studio?


ThomMadura wrote: >

Let me ask you something


CAN a BABY sin?

Can an INFANT sin?


The bible says yea.

Psalms 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.


Barry OGrady wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:40:33 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


duke wrote: >

God didn't cause evil. Evil comes from you listening to satan instead of God. >

Sometimes God and Satan tell people to do the exact same thing. >

1 Chronicles 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David

to number Israel. >

2 Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against

Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.


Satan works for God.

Whether God made Satan make David number Israel, or God made David do it himself, it was a sin. So either God made David sin, or he made Satan make David sin.

2 Samuel 24:109 And David's heart smote him after that he had numbered the people. And David said unto the LORD, I have sinned greatly in that I have done: and now, I beseech thee, O LORD, take away the iniquity of thy servant; for I have done very foolishly.


casey wrote:


It is the problem of personal identity. Like me I

assume you have a strong sense of a Self that you

look after. What is that really? Why can't it

"come back"?

At the heart of the problem is a simple paradox. You are using your conscious mind to attempt to contemplate unending unconsciousness. People can wrap their mind around sleep or general anaesthesia because they're always on the other side looking back. But they can't wrap their mind around that same state looking forward. And so the human mind becomes a cornucopia of fantastic ideas about paradise, or heaven, or hell, or purgatory, or Tartarus, or Valhalla, or Sheol, etc.


Paul Duca wrote:


The simple and ignorant folk presume their God is angry for not voting

Republican, so He will take His vengence...


God is conservative: Eccl. 10:2: "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left.

Santa Claus is liberal.



emoneyjoe wrote:



      Odd that some engineers are working to make

aircraft electric powered.


Good luck. They'd need to make the energy density of their power source (currently batteries) much greater to even come close to liquid fossil fuel. There's a solar powered plane, but it doesn't have a battery.


Barry OGrady wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 13:45:33 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:


On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:14:08 +1000, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au wrote: > On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:08:59 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:


He gave you free will to use everything and figure it out for yourself.

What have you figured out?

If God had full control he is fully responsible.

You can't have free will if God is in full control


The bible says we don't have free will.


If we don't have free will, then we are not culpable for sin. That makes your vengeful god an immoral monster.


casey wrote:



A person with a damaged hippocampus is forever

thinking they have just woken up. They do not

experience a continuous existence only the now.


They might be healthier than we, if they don't dwell on the past, or worry about the future.


ramrod@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal wrote:



  • Marvel comics confirmed yesterday that Northstar, former mutant member

of Alpha Flight and current X-Man, will be marrying his boyfriend Kyle

in the June issue of Astonishing X-Men #51.

How about some news from the real world? Real heroes don't wear capes, they wear dog tags.


Kenny McCormack wrote:


Next thing, you're going to be telling me that "Jaws" and "The Exorcist"

were fictional as well.


I dunno about the Exorcist, Bob Larson has a pretty good gig casting out demonds.


duke wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 07:49:12 -0700 (PDT), arah <araharah2012@gmail.com wrote:


WHAT WAS THE SIGN OF JONAH?


Oh, probably 3 days and nights in the belly of a fish.


That's seventy-two hours Duke. If Jesus died at 1500 hours on Friday, nine hours takes him to Saturday at midnight, 24 hours to Sunday at midnight, another 24 hours takes him to Monday at midnight, leaving us fifteen hours on Tuesday until the resurrection. That means the Catholic Church should have changed the Sabbath from Friday at dusk to Tuesday afternoon.


Ramon F. Herrera wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/video/politics/2012/04/13/bts-santorum-bella-nra.cnn


-Ramon


ps: Notice that Santorum has refused to endorse Mitt Romney.

Then he can kiss Veep goodbye.


ramrod@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal wrote:





Hispanics are not black, red or yellow, or in fact purple for that matter.


There's no such thing as Hispanic. It's an invented thing, like Aryan, or Kwanzaa.


patriotgames@democrathallofshame.com http://www.democrathallofshame.com wrote:

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/in-the-news/2012/4/arizona-senate-oks-bill-on-guns-in-public-buildings.aspx?s=&st=&ps=


Arizona: Senate OKs bill on guns in public buildings

April 13, 2012


Might be Skittles indoors, you see.


patriotgames@democrathallofshame.com http://www.democrathallofshame.com wrote:

http://mobile.thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/221379-rosen-cancels-planned-meet-the-press-appearance


Rosen cancels her appearance on NBC's 'Meet the Press'

04/13/12


Hilary Rosen, the Democratic consultant who created a political

firestorm with her comments about Ann Romney, on Friday canceled a

planned appearance on Meet the Press.


Let me guess, she needed to spend more time with her husband and children. No, that's not it...


patriotgames@democrathallofshame.com http://www.democrathallofshame.com wrote:

On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:23:51 -0400, Luke Nichols <luken@frontiernet.net wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv_6qzeyY-k&feature=relmfu

Barack Hussein (The Long Legged Mack Daddy) Obama is thin and wasting.

Dr. Manning asks does he and Al Sharpton have AIDS?


Buckwheat refused to release ANY of his medical records...


Instead, he saw a doctor he had never visited before and got the

simplest of physical checkups with no blood work. That doctor said,

in effect, 'He looks okay to me.'

The doctor was a proctologist, and immediately after the visit, Obama released his estimates for unemployment.


Alias wrote: On 4/14/2012 8:15 PM, linuxgal wrote: BillW50 wrote: > >

It is funny, I have been running Windows since '93. And it always was

that the newer version of Windows had a must have feature that I just

really needed. Although after XP, this all stopped! There is no must

have features anymore. And without them, I am just not impressed! > >

Same thing with Ubuntu. I'm all about Gnome. They changed the windows

manager after 10.10 and now they don't even include Gnome as a fallback.

So now I'm like a fly in amber, forever frozen at 10.04.


Try Linux Mint KDE 12 with the Plasma desktop. It rocks. I left Ubuntu

when they went with Unity. I don't have much need for tablets or smart

phones.


Naw, what I'll end up doing is bouncing back down to Debian. It's a shame. Ubuntu was a good 'stro.


BillW50 wrote:


I wish I had a nickel every time somebody told me to try another Linux

distro. And after a few dozen or so I decided to quit wasting my time.

Most of them don't even have the drivers you need. And the ones that do,

ain't worth it anyway.


Virtual Box is a great way to test drive that stuff. I really liked Simply Mepis.


Sheldon Scott wrote:

Life-threatening storms set to sweep the Midwest as three tornadoes hit

Oklahoma and the worst is feared still to come

Funny how all that shit seems to target the Bible Belt.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:


Have you figured out yet which ideology predominates the

"military-industrial complex"?


It doesn't occur to me. I don't focus on team sports. I'm all about the issues, take them as they come, one-by-one.


Andrew W wrote:


Look up the electric cars Nicola Tesla invented. They never needed any

recharging.


Cool. Perpetual motion. So the oil companies had him whacked, right?


First. Post wrote:


And then there is the fact that lithium is hazardous to human life and like

copper, it has to be mined.

There's a shitload of USENET trolls here that could use some lithium.


bigdog wrote: On Apr 9, 9:55 pm, Crickets <b>ongblas...@peoplepc.com wrote:



Bush, Nixon, Johnson, Ford? Which one of them fired the shot from the

grassy knoll?

Johnson. There were two other "votes" for LBJ fired from the Texas School Book Suppository Building.


Andrew W wrote:


Our universe is made of energy and we can tap into it. Many inventors

already have but the corporations shut them down and ridiculed them to

protect their own profits.

You're right, everything is made of energy. Matter is frozen energy. But that doesn't mean squat. It's like saying you have a million dollars, but it slipped into a crack in the earth and you can never reach it. The only thing that counts is useful energy. Entropy is the process of useful energy becoming useless right before your very eyes.


...but a woman's work is never done.

Michelle Obama in 2007:

Every year, Michelle Obama considers quitting her job and staying home full-time to take care of her children. “It was a gift having my mother home every day. I want my kids to feel that way,” she says.

http://lonelyconservative.com/2012/04/flashback-michelle-obama-on-the-luxury-of-being-a-stay-at-home-mom/


Father Haskell wrote: On Apr 14, 2:34 pm, Jope <jope...@gmail.com wrote:


Gravity is a relative notion derived from observing the relationship

between formed objects.


Gravity is an expression of mass.

There is no gravity. The Earth sucks.


felix_unger wrote: On 15-April-2012 4:40 AM, linuxgal wrote:


duke wrote: >

God didn't cause evil. Evil comes from you listening to satan instead

of God. > >

Sometimes God and Satan tell people to do the exact same thing. >

1 Chronicles 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked

David to number Israel. >

2 Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against

Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and

Judah.


you sure do know your 'stuff'


It doesn't matter. Duke just waves his hand and says that part of the Bible was where the human authors got it wrong.


felix_unger wrote:



He's saying the ancients thought a local flood was 'world wide' because

they believed the earth was flat, and their limited knowledge of what

was beyond, or their ability to see beyond, their local area


He's saying the Bible is myopic, in other words. Except where it says atheists go to hell, or any one of a dozen other favorite Duke topics. It then becomes crystal clear.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:44:26 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

Have you figured out yet which ideology predominates the

"military-industrial complex"? >

It doesn't occur to me.


Well, then, you prove my point.

How so? I'm talking about the MIC, you're talking about blue team / red team.


BroilJAB wrote:

After a lifetime of being an atheist,

Sir Anthony Flew came to the conclusion

that atheism is a logical contradiction.

He came to Christ.

He came to Christ, who uttered such "logical" things as:

"Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him and enter no more into him."

Duh, a deaf spirit can't hear anything.


BroilJAB wrote:

Chavez broke down during a religious service

and begged Jesus Christ to grant him life.

Too late, Pat Robertson already called for Chavez to be whacked and he has first dibs on Jesus Christ.


BroilJAB wrote:

Only an atheist believes in the zero odds

of 10^40000 actually happening. There are

only 10^80 atoms in the universe.

Only 52 cards in a deck but 80,658,175,170,943,878,571,660,636,856, 403,766,975,289,505,440,883,277,824,000,000,000,000 different ways to shuffle them.


BroilJAB wrote:

Violent homosexualists should first be

chained to the wall. If that doesn't work,

then should be legally Executed.

Matt Sheperd was chained to a fence in Wyoming and left to die. Is that what you mean?


Mike Painter wrote: On 4/15/2012 7:14 PM, Don Martin wrote:

On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:33:03 -0700, Mike

Painter<md.painter@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >

I never read Catch 22. It didn't interest me. >

Pity. I think Catch 22 is the most brilliant piece of satire to come

out of

WWII. It tends to be a bit surreal, which can put people off, though. >

That sounds like Patrick.

Major Major will vouch for the fact that I read Catch 22.

You can catch him in his office almost anytime...

Cathcart: Oh, don't get me wrong, Chaplain. It isn't that I think the enlisted men are dirty, common and inferior. It's that we just don't have enough room. Frankly, though, I'd just as soon the officers and enlisted men didn't fraternize in the briefing room. They see enough of each other during the mission, it seems to me. Some of my very best friends are enlisted men, you understand, but that's as close as I care to let them come close. Honestly now, Chaplain, you wouldn't want your sister to marry an enlisted man, would you?

Chaplain: My sister is an enlisted man, sir.


Irreverend Dave wrote: MarkA <someone@somewhere.invalid wrote:


I find it suspicious that the word "Mormon" and "moron" are so close

to each other. However, it is well known that even intelligent people

can hold strange beliefs. Is it fair to call Mormons morons just

because they believe stupid things? >


Did you know that the angel who guarded the golden plates that Joseph Smith

got the Book of Mormon from was named Moroni?


There actually is a Moron in the book of Mormon.

Ether 11:14 And it came to pass that Ethem did execute judgment in wickedness all his days; and he begat Moron. And it came to pass that Moron did reign in his stead; and Moron did that which was wicked before the Lord.


The Eat Your Peas President wrote:

  Where was ABC & CBS & NBC & CNN & MSNBC

CNN, MSNBC, NPR, Time, Newsweek, New York Times, 24 hour damage control for the Obama Administration.


Falstaff wrote: On Apr 15, 9:31 am, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com wrote:

its all Bush's fault.


Record droughts, record floods, record high temps, even record dust

storms - all part of the "myth" of Climate Change?


Funny how it used to be global warming, but they changed the trope to "climate change" to cover all the bets.


Oglethorpe wrote:

"Sid9" <sid9@ bellsouth.net wrote in message

news:jma5bf$l4v$1@dont-email.me...

April 13, 2012 >

Hybrid and Electric Cars See Record Sales in March


Hybrids are projected to be no more than 5% of the market. They're crap.


Get a Ford Focus, gets the same mileage and it's built in America, by Americans.


deep@dudu.org wrote:


No shocker. Romney has millions and millions coming in from secret

Mormon SuperPAC money.

Romney doesn't have SuperPAC money coming in, because SuperPACs are not controlled by the candidates.


John Manning wrote:


Indeed. I think there's a solid group about 20-25% of voters

who are right wingers who seem to be permanently and hopelessly

stuck in stupid.

Same stats for the left side of the house.


sully wrote:



Yes. This was the pct and type of ppl who were still admiring

Hitler when he was burning in his bunker.


Admiring what? His Obama-esque gun control legislation?


sbalneav wrote:


One assumes normal relations with those Japanese who weren't involved?

Or are you advocating perpetual unforgiveness for past crimes?

That would be typical of Christians these days.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:



"Samuel Harrigon" <samharrigon@gmail.com wrote in message

news:ec35a1c2-f838-4441-b763-f9f0d525ee75@m13g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...

Every one of you god haters can quote me on this and mark my words. If

Mitt Romney becomes president of the united states, I, Reverend Samuel

Howard Harrigon of the Good Old Gospel Ship Church, will convert to

atheism and turn my church into a bar and grill.


If Mittler wins, I'm converting to Islam and moving to Mecca.

Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:



"BroilJAB" <DesignDenier@wmconnect.com wrote in message

news:1930b067-1f9a-434e-88c4-2f68478b097d@w5g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...

If Atheists could see and hear from those

now in Hell, would they turn from corruption

and come to Jesus?


No. They hate Him so bad that they would rather burn in Hell than to

worship Him.

I hate Tony Soprano so bad I would rather be kneecapped by Furio than pay him protection money.


Eris wrote:

Twelve notes in an octave


Twelve colors in the spectrum


Twelve years in a Buddhist cycle IIRC.


Twelve mythical Disciples.


Twelve Zodiac signs


Twelve months in a year.


Any more?

Twelve morons on a jury letting OJ go free.


sully wrote:


This assumes reich wingers are interested in learning

anything though.



Parrish *~ wrote:


"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com wrote in message

news:Jason-1604120020450001@66-53-210-228.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com... >

The book clearly indicated that the St. Helens area quickly recovered

from

the damage caused by the volcano. The point was that the earth also

quickly recovered from the damage caused by Noah's Flood. >



Huh? A volcano can't be compared to a worldwide flood that lasted for

months. Such a flood would kill all land vegetation and leave the earth

a bare muddy stinking mess. Haven't you been through this conversation

before?

You dig up a patch of grass on your lawn, the other grass around it will grow to fill in the hole. You dig up all the grass on your lawn, not so quick.


hypatiab7 wrote: On Sunday, April 15, 2012 3:25:42 PM UTC-4, duke wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:46:28 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > duke wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:14:08 +1000, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au wrote: >

You can't have free will if God is in full control >

A God who knows the future without error also negates free will. Think

about it.

A dead end. God does not exist in time and space. God just knows what your

final free choice will be. >

There's nothing in the Bible about any god existing outside of time and

space. This is just an idea Duke lifted from the other fundies.

Exodus 19:11 And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.

Doesn't sound to me like God exists outside of time and space, if he comes down to a certain mountain on the third day.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:



Our congregation doesn't handle snakes. Handling snakes is a fox

Christian heresy and is thereby punishable by death and an eternity in

Hell.

Mark 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.


duke wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:46:28 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:14:08 +1000, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au wrote: >

You can't have free will if God is in full control >

A God who knows the future without error also negates free will. Think

about it.


A dead end. God does not exist in time and space. God just knows what your

final free choice will be.

If he knew that Abraham was going to kill Isaac why did he dick around with the "test"? Just wanted to traumatize the boy I guess.


Rockinghorse Winner wrote:

  • It may have been the liquor talking, but

linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Your god is indistinguishable from a god that does not exist.


How would a God, if He existed, reveal Himself in your opinion?

Change pi to 3.2.


Smiler wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 18:20:38 +0100, Les Hellawell wrote:


So who started the fires that burned most of Rome? >


The same guy who also wrote a CD/DVD burning program...


Janet Nero fiddled while Waco burned.


The Eat Your Peas President wrote:

The democrat controlled senate just voted down the buffet

rule......lmfao

Because most of them are millionaires. Duh.


Joe Cool wrote:

On Apr 16, 12:24 pm, The Eat Your Peas President <ret...@nc.rr.com> wrote:

  It happened under Clinton so why wouldnt now? Barack is a party

animal


The Secret Service never provided Clinton with prostitutes and is not

providing them to Obama now, you pathetic clueless babbling fucking

asshole moron.

It was more like Clinton providing THEM with prostitutes.


ssrlouis wrote: On Apr 16, 1:50 pm, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com wrote:

Over the last 3.5 years, Obama has occupied the White House. >

Has he done one really good thing for America? >

Name it...


He Doubled the Debt  and allowed homosexuals to enter the military


He didn't see anything wrong with letting the boys in the 101st Airborne pack each other's chutes.


RichTravsky wrote: lsrlts wrote: On 4/13/2012 8:30 PM, RichTravsky wrote:

These hicks will fall for anything.

So...was Kenya a named nation in 1961? >

Quick answer please.


Was Hawaii a state?


Quick answer please.

In 2008 Obama ran against McCain, who was born in Panama. I know for sure Panama isn't a state.


duke wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:33:53 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:23:28 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > duke wrote: > > I believe in God, you believe in elves.

Same quantity of evidence for both.

All evidence to be found is FOR the existence of God. There is exactly no

evidence, no reason to profess that God does not exist.

Your god is indistinguishable from a god that does not exist.


But I have evidence for mine.


You just misplaced it right now. Get back to us when you find it under the sofa cushions or whatever.


duke wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:51:15 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote:


On 4/14/2012 1:02 PM, duke wrote:

Eve ate the apple, god cursed her with menstruation. > Not for eating an apple, but for telling God she'll decide what to eat and not > he.

For asserting her God-given free will, in other words.

But he told her NO first.


Ya, like a woman EVER listens...

Oops! Did I say that out loud?


Yes you did. <g

That's why they're called a (woe)man.

In the beginning God created man. Then She said, "I can do better than this."


duke wrote:

On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 08:33:21 +1000, "Andrew W" <remove_ajwerner@optusnet.com.au> wrote:


"linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in message

news:RPGdneNolN6HJBTSnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@giganews.com Orval Fairbairn wrote: >

Electrics are nothing but expensive paperweights! That is why they

died out 100 years ago and are costing billions to resurrect into

zombies.

No. It died out because the greedy oil companies took them out so their

profits and monopoly don't get jeopardised.

Look up the electric cars Nicola Tesla invented. They never needed any

recharging.


Nicola Tesla was a zombie.

Oh, did he rise from the tomb on the third day too?


Möebius Pretzel wrote:

The President Of Iceland Tells Us How He Had The Balls To Stand Up To

President. Iceland is the same size as Pittsburg.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:


Trouble is that 1% owns all the wealth in America.

So you're saying 99% of Americans own nothing?


deep@dudu.org wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 09:14:57 -0700 (PDT), JohnJohnsn <TopCop1988@yahoo.com wrote:


On Apr 16, 9:02 am, Gary Richard "Yoorghis IDIOT" Roselles <Yoorghis@propagandists.dnc.org wrote: >

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 06:01:35 -0700 (PDT), JohnJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Yeah, wasn't it hilarious how he made them suffer---beat them > to their knees...

Actually, Gary; it was Monika Lewinsky who was on her "knees," Gary:

not the Republicans.


At least when a Democrat has a sexual affair it's with a woman.

That's why Bill Clinton said Hillary eats more pussy than he does.


NotMe wrote:

"Tracey12" <tracey12email@gmail.com wrote in message

news:7dcecbee-40a0-449f-b163-f4841420f833@g38g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >

Over the last 3.5 years, Obama has occupied the White House. >

Has he done one really good thing for America? >

Name it... >


Blocked McCain and Palin from the White House.


Even I have to nod my head at that.


Greegor wrote:


Moe the pagan and Christianity hater

presents that St Paul and Christ would

be offended by the televangelist she

has obsessively harassed for TWENTY SEVEN YEARS. >

Televangelist, or television evangelist, implies TV, or am I missing something? I'm not seeing Bob Larson on the airwaves, unless he's gone shortwave like Ralph Stair.


Antares 531 wrote:


God wants us to mature to the level which will let us be partners and

company in His realm.

God wants US to be mature. How ironic.

"I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation."


duke wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:27:14 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:22:56 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > duke wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:17:34 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: >> >>

Paul says faith is the evidence of invisible things. Your FAITH is the

evidence. > Nope, my faith is driven by the evidence that can't be denied.

Evidently you do not comprehend the plain text of scripture.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the

evidence of things not seen.

But we do have evidence that is seen. >

We have evidence of things which are seen, but we do not have evidence

of things which are not seen. Paul says faith is that evidence.


Nobody has ever seen electricity or air.

Duke, when I say "man" sometimes I refer to men and women. When I say "see" sometimes I refer to indirect observations, such as the reading on a pressure gage.


duke wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:44:35 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


I don't understand a global flood. I don't understand people who

understand global floods.


What makes you think it was truly "global"?

I can read.

Genesis 7:19 ...all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.


Father Haskell wrote:


CARTESIAN, adj. Relating to Descartes, a famous philosopher, author

of the celebrated dictum, Cogito ergo sum -- whereby he was pleased to

suppose he demonstrated the reality of human existence. The dictum

might be improved, however, thus: Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum -- "I

think that I think, therefore I think that I am;" as close an approach

to certainty as any philosopher has yet made.


According to Descartes, liberals do not exist.


Jeanne Douglas wrote:


The Earth is 70% ocean now and it would take a canopy over 5 miles

thick to flood the earth to a height of over 5 miles.

The area of the Earth is 200 million square miles. The tallest mountain is 5.5 miles high. This means Noah's flood required 1.1 billion cubic miles of water. The atmosphere can hold one inch of water in vapor form.


Sid9 wrote:

Democrats in the Senate fail to get the 60 votes they need to move

forward with a measure that would set a minimum 30% tax on millionaires

and billionaires.


Grandstanding is one thing, but millionaire senators aren't about to pauperize themselves.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:



"linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in message

news:tO-dnRL4EfvgWRHSnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@giganews.com... Zacharias Mulletstein wrote: > >

Our congregation doesn't handle snakes. Handling snakes is a fox

Christian heresy and is thereby punishable by death and an eternity

in Hell. >

Mark 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly

thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and

they shall recover.


Haven't you ever heard of a metaphor?

I never metaphor I didn't like.


Jason wrote:

In article <9clpo7p6g93kkctu702kbd06esr6i0mvni@4ax.com>, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au wrote:


On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:19:24 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > duke wrote:

>

A dead end. God does not exist in time and space. God just knows what your

final free choice will be.

If he knew that Abraham was going to kill Isaac why did he dick around

with the "test"? Just wanted to traumatize the boy I guess.

Oh, what a complicated web!


It was to determine if Abraham was willing to do anything that God asked

him to to. Abraham passed that test and as a result God blessed Abraham

and the offspring of Abraham.

If he knew that Abraham was going to kill Isaac why did he dick around with the "test"? Just wanted to traumatize the boy I guess.


duke wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:38:36 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: >

Nobody has ever met God.


Do you deny that people met Jesus, or that Jesus is not God?


Of course people met Jesus.


Jesus saith unto him, "Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?"

So Philip at least has met God.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:


Keith Richards was an athiest. John Lennon too. They both died of drugs.

John Lennon died of a lead overdose. Richards just looks dead.


David Fritzinger wrote:


My explanation is correct. There never was a flood. The mountains in CA

were never underwater once they started to actually become mountains due

to plate tectonics.

Yeah, it's only the mortgages that are underwater in California.


Davej wrote:


Yeah, inflation is out of control. Buy gold. Buy seeds.


Buy seeds of Acapulco Gold.


Tronscend wrote:


That's why the dozen is so useful when it 

comes to cargo, the compass, the clock and the calender.

IOW, it's an even lazier system than yours, since it's more efficient.

Get a twelve-pack of tacos at Taco Bell, you can feed twelve, six, four, three, two, or one, and no one feels cheated.



Jason wrote:


Israel is smaller than some of the states in America but Obama is trying

to force Israel to give up even more territory.



Yeah, and he just gave Russia some islands in Alaska, and just like Israel, Alaska can't afford to get smaller like that.


Don Kresch wrote:


FDR was a fascist, and he was one of the worst presidents

ever.


Yeah, I really dug how he could goose-step with his wheelchair.


Don Kresch wrote:



Why? The rise is simply due to Helicopter Ben's inflationary

policies/bailing out his bankster buddies while shafting us with

ever-more-worthless fiat currency.


Benny and the Inkjets.


Jason wrote:


There is a theory (that is NOT from the Bible) that God had another

creation prior to the Adam and Eve story. If so, that could explain why

there were people in a nearby city or town. I do believe it's more likely

that the children of Adam and Eve became married to each other.


So the early days of Earth were like Mississippi writ large.


The Eat Your Peas President wrote:

Farrakhan Praises Pat Buchanan as a ‘Great Republican’ & Warns Whites:

‘Unless You Change, Your End Has Come’

How do they change being white?


Obama's War On Women wrote:

Last year, almost 1,800 people renounced their U.S. citizenship or

handing in their Green Cards.

Hopefully if Obama wins, Rush will do the same and move to Costa Rica.


Mormon Preacher wrote:

You know, we Mormons have been known to murder gays who infiltrate our

churches.

Is that was that wagon train at Mountain Meadows was, a hundred gay guys?


sully wrote: On Apr 16, 5:43 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: sully wrote: >

Yes. This was the pct and type of ppl who were still admiring

Hitler when he was burning in his bunker.

Admiring what? His Obama-esque gun control legislation?


LOL, "gun control" panic is one of the hot button issues

for the ignorant reich wing.


Choose one:

[ ] Free America

[ ] Gun-free America


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:47:40 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: >

Trouble is that 1% owns all the wealth in America.

So you're saying 99% of Americans own nothing?


No, I'm saying that 99% of the rest of American only own 30% of what's

left over.


Are you stupid?

I see. So when people say "all the wealth in America" that really means 70%, and if someone thinks it means 100%, they're stupid. Check.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 07:27:02 -0600, deep@dudu.org wrote:


Dick Morris, darling of faux snooze, while married, hired hookers.


That must have been when he was on Clinton's re-election team, 1996, coining the triangulation strategery.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:50:47 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


> Name anything done for the good of america by a republican

The interstate highway system.

Just one? That's it? Yep. That's it. Just one.

The end of slavery.


Caused by PROGRESSIVES and LIBERAL of the Northern Army of the

Republican who whipped the ass of the CONSERVATIVE Racist "states

rights" party.

Back when the Grand Old Party was grand.


duke wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:31:27 -0500, Romney: A Polygamist whose career has been destroying America's middle class <rom@skls.com wrote:


On 4/16/2012 1:58 PM, Falstaff wrote:

Kept the American hating republicans out of the oval office.


Republicans are the ones that love America. Buckwheat loves muslims.

So does Jesus. In fact, if a Christian doesn't love his neighbor, he's got some 'splainin' to do on the Last Day.


MarkA wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:33:05 -0700, J wrote:


Joseph Ratzinger has always been a humble man, so he never speaks of his

heroism in WWII but I have no doubt that his exploits are equal or surpass

those of Oskar Schindler. > >


I'm just curious: are you working on a PhD in historical revisionism or

something?


How many historical revisionists does it take to change a burned out light bulb? None. There never *was* a burned out light bulb.


2960 Dead wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:47:40 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: >

Trouble is that 1% owns all the wealth in America.

So you're saying 99% of Americans own nothing?


Heading that way rapidly. In 2009, 50% of Americans controlled 97.5% of

the wealth. 10% controlled 70% of the wealth.


Who cares? When you die, you control 0% of the wealth.


sully wrote:


Choose one:

[ ] Stupid America

[ ] Liberal America

Gun Control is being able to put three bullets through the same hole. Body Piercing by Colt.


duke wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:44:57 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


>

If he knew that Abraham was going to kill Isaac why did he dick around

with the "test"? Just wanted to traumatize the boy I guess.


Nope, demonstrate obedience.

Why does God need a demonstration of something he already knows? Unless he doesn't know something.


duke wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:19:24 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


If he knew that Abraham was going to kill Isaac why did he dick around

with the "test"? Just wanted to traumatize the boy I guess.


As is the case in all of Christianity, God knew but we didn't until we actually

made the decision to follow God.

Not even God wanted Abraham to follow him. At the last second he sent an angel or some shit to stop Abraham from killing Isaac.


duke wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:28:04 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:44:35 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: >

I don't understand a global flood. I don't understand people who

understand global floods.

What makes you think it was truly "global"?

I can read. >

Genesis 7:19 ...all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven,

were covered.


Man didn't even have a telescope then.


Didn't need one. The Earth was flat as late as the time of Jesus, when Satan took him up on a high hill under heaven and showed him all the nations of the Earth simultaneously.

Luke 4:5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.


duke wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:48:31 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:38:36 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > duke wrote: > > Nobody has ever met God.

Do you deny that people met Jesus, or that Jesus is not God?

Of course people met Jesus. >

Jesus saith unto him, "Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast

thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father;

and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" >

So Philip at least has met God.


I can account for about 15,000 people "meeting" the Son of God, but they knew

him only as "Son of man".

It doesn't matter what they knew him as, it is Catholic dogma that Christ is God from God, light from light, begotten not made, one in being with the Father. So everyone who met Jesus has met God. And that contradicts your original statement that "nobody has ever met God".


duke wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:38:45 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:51:15 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com wrote: > On 4/14/2012 1:02 PM, duke wrote: > Eve ate the apple, god cursed her with menstruation. > Not for eating an apple, but for telling God she'll decide what to eat and not > he.

For asserting her God-given free will, in other words. > But he told her NO first.

Ya, like a woman EVER listens...

Oops! Did I say that out loud?

Yes you did. <g

That's why they're called a (woe)man.

In the beginning God created man. Then She said, "I can do better than

this."


And what did she come up with?


And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.


Antares 531 wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:19:58 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Antares 531 wrote: >

God wants us to mature to the level which will let us be partners and

company in His realm.

God wants US to be mature. How ironic. >

"I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the

fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation." >

We are "children of God." A parent wants their children to mature to

the same level as the parent.

Not even a human parent would punish his children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, and great-great grandchildren for something his child does. It would be incredibly immature. But God boasts of doing that.


duke wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:20:18 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Rockinghorse Winner wrote:

  • It may have been the liquor talking, but

linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: >

Your god is indistinguishable from a god that does not exist.

How would a God, if He existed, reveal Himself in your opinion?

Change pi to 3.2.


He didn't. That was the first calculation. BTW, what is the true value of pi?

Heeheehee!!!!!

The integral over the domain -1 to 1 of the function 1/sqrt(1-x^2) with respect to x yields the exact value of pi.


duke wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:37:07 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


>

You just misplaced it right now. Get back to us when you find it under

the sofa cushions or whatever.


Here it is. I just found it. It's the creation of the universe - something

form nothing into nothingness.

I thought you had evidence. If this was a court of law, my lawyer would go, "Objection, Your Honor. Asked and answered."


HVAC wrote: On 4/17/2012 7:54 AM, duke wrote: > >

Worship does not mean idiotic, ritualistic activities and responses. >

You should tell that to Duke...He's always chanting phrases in Latin

and making signs in the air. >

I am??????



Every time you make the sign of the cross.


You do that backwards from the EO's, somebody is going to hell because someone isn't doing it right.


kensmithiscool wrote:


Well that's actually quite the understatement. Maybe even the

understatement of 2012! Seriously, you'd have to be a great hiker in

order to climb Mt. Kilimanjaro (20,000 ft.).

Give me a break. Everybody and his dog walks that one. Not even a technical climb like Rainier.


2960 Dead wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:55:36 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


2960 Dead wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:47:40 -0700, linuxgal wrote: > Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote: > > Trouble is that 1% owns all the wealth in America.

So you're saying 99% of Americans own nothing?

Heading that way rapidly. In 2009, 50% of Americans controlled 97.5%

of the wealth. 10% controlled 70% of the wealth. > >

Who cares? When you die, you control 0% of the wealth.


Ah, yes, the libertarian version of the American dream: "Well, it's not

like you weren't going to die eventually anyway".


Let go of the Ring, Bilbo, and go hang out with the dwarves.


sully wrote:


The right is incoherent in nearly every issue. Guns

are a great example.


Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Hussein, Mao, Ahmedinejad, Obama,...These experts all agree: gun control works! Forget Gun Control, I Want

  • CRIMINAL CONTROL*


Jason wrote:



It's rare to see mountains that are not covered with trees. There are lots

of them in California. However, some mountains in California are covered

with lots of trees. I grew up in Western Virginia and incorrectly believed

from that experience that all mountains in America were covered with

trees. I was wrong.


Mt. Shasta isn't covered with trees. What's really cool is going over the shoulder of Mt. Shasta on Amtrak, you're right at the tree-line.


Jason wrote:


You are correct. However, I have read the entire Bible. When the Jews went

from Egypt to the Holy Land--they encountered evil groups of people.

They weren't Jews, they were Hebrews back then.


Jason wrote:


I was referring to the Spanish-American War. We learned about it in

college but I have forgotten most of the details. I have memory problems.


Spanish-American War and Mexican War were land grabs, pure and simple from the Eighth Dimension.



Jeanne Douglas wrote:

In article <jmlifn$ssu$1@speranza.aioe.org>,

"J. Alfred Prufrock" <me@tseliot.cat

wrote:


Tell me, what does the term "honest worship" mean to you?


Believing in what you're worshipping.


Worshiping what you don't believe in, that's kind of stupid don't you think?


Raymond wrote:


Q. Does Romney Have A Position On Afghanistan?

A...Not yet. He is still working on a position for Vietnam.

Anything is better than Obama's position on Asscrackistan, which is bend America over and spread her cheeks.


Olrik wrote:


A "libertarian" is 100% ideological, because "libertarianism", by

definition, can't work.

Libertarianism: A political philosophy advocating only minimal state intervention in the lives of citizens. It can't work because liberals insist on state intervention in citizen's bank accounts and conservatives insist on state intervention in citizen's vaginas.


John Manning wrote:



Romney is clearly a candidate for the wealthy - not the vast

majority of the American people.


Then Obama's got nothing to worry about. He's got the numbers on his side.


emoneyjoe wrote:



        I hope Obama wins, I want to see how flexible he is

with the Russians after the election.


About as flexible as a yoga instructor who moonlights as a hooker.


John Manning wrote:



A new survey finds that a majority of Americans believe

that weather in the United States is getting worse, and they

are linking it to global warming.


A majority of Americans also believe in God. 'Nuff said.


sully wrote:


Reich wingers invent enemies to make their

paranoid world view coherent.


Ever notice there's no crime at a shooting range?


Jazzy Belle wrote: On Apr 17, 9:57 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: kensmithiscool wrote: >

Well that's actually quite the understatement. Maybe even the

understatement of 2012! Seriously, you'd have to be a great hiker in

order to climb Mt. Kilimanjaro (20,000 ft.).

Give me a break. Everybody and his dog walks that one. Not even a

technical climb like Rainier.


But Bob Larson brags about it, like KSIC does.

James 4:16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.

Cast out Demon Boast.


Jason wrote:


Give me a fucking cite RIGHT NOW when Israel gave up land to the

Palestinians.


The last peace agreement.



The last peace agreement was with Jordan, and no disputed land was involved. Before that, there was a peace agreement with Egypt, and the only land that was given to Egypt was the Sinai, which was seized by Israel in June 1967.


Jazzy Belle wrote: On Apr 17, 12:59 am, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 16, 9:08 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: >

I'm not seeing Bob Larson on the airwaves,

unless he's gone shortwave like Ralph Stair.

Your ruse isn't working, Moe!


Linuxgal isn't me, gaggue.


Paranoia is a difficult demon to cast out.


Christopher Helms wrote:

Like all his issues, Mittens has multiple positions on Afghanistan. The Romney Uncertainty Principle states that you can either know Romney's current position on an issue, or the general direction of his rhetoric on it, but not both at the same time.

All he knows is Obama is wrong.


Joe Cool wrote:

On Apr 18, 12:59 pm, The Eat Your Peas President <ret...@nc.rr.com> wrote:

  Anyone see whats wrong with this picture?


Obama does NOT eat dogs, you pathetic clueless babbling fucking

asshole moron LIAR.

Yankee Stadium the dogs are pretty decent.


Richard Steel wrote:

Sorry, they weren't rich in the beginning. Mitt earned his own

fortune. Also, you really want to go after a cancer survivor?


Wealthy family...


Obama was worth four milliion dollars when he discovered that his half

brother George was living on literally a dollar a day.


Obama didn't help his brother at all.


1 Timothy 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.


Tracey12 wrote:

Islam is perfect for Democrats.


Islam relies on heavy handed government to help impose its beliefs and

values in many countries.


Democrats rely on government to impose their values and beliefs.


Louis Farakhan is not a member of the GOP. He is critical of both

parties, but certainly much more critical of Republicans than

Democrats. Louis is an American Muslim.


Many black Americans in federal prison are becoming joining with

Farakhan to become American Muslims.


Islam is perfect for Democrats.

We're discovering this in every Arab country that democratizes, from Iraq to Egypt. One man, one vote, one time.


Jeanne Douglas wrote:


You mean the point of view that the top 1% deserve to own all the

wealth and the rest of us should be grateful for the scraps? That

point of view?

So in your math class they taught you that 43 percent of the wealth is "all the wealth" and that 57 percent of the wealth is scraps. Check.


duke wrote:

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 07:14:39 -0500, Antares 531 <gordonlrDELETE@swbell.net> wrote:


"Visiting the iniquity" implies that if we disregard the natural laws

of God we will encounter problems that can extend for several

generations.


Yep in original sin.


Original sin goes against the Bible.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.


duke wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 19:09:38 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


It doesn't matter what they knew him as, it is Catholic dogma that

Christ is God from God, light from light, begotten not made, one in

being with the Father. So everyone who met Jesus has met God. And

that contradicts your original statement that "nobody has ever met God".


Wrong. I said they knew him as a man, but not as a divine person.

You adhere to the heresy of Nestorianism and hold that the human and divine persons of Christ are separate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestorianism

You are hereby ordered to report to the lowest level of Castel Sant'Angelo for a vigorous inquiry into your heresy under the strappado.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castel_Sant'Angelo


duke wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 19:02:04 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:44:57 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > >

If he knew that Abraham was going to kill Isaac why did he dick around

with the "test"? Just wanted to traumatize the boy I guess.

Nope, demonstrate obedience.

Why does God need a demonstration of something he already knows? Unless

he doesn't know something.


Abraham didn't understand. God did.

Abraham apparently understood where God did not. Abraham was about to kill Isaac when God stopped him. So the whole episode was a simple case of divine masturbation, leaving Isaac and Sarah traumatized.


wy wrote: On Apr 18, 8:45 pm, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com wrote: On 04/18/2012 03:08 PM, 2960 Dead wrote: >

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/18/lawsuit-former-bain-execs-fired-

employees-for-not-being-mormon/

Lawsuit: Former Bain execs fired employees for not being Mormon

By David Edwards

Wednesday, April 18, 2012 14:51 EDT

So? >

Should not an employer be able to hie whom he wishes?


Is Bain Capital a church that requires that the management team be all

Mormon?

It has to do with the dress code. All board meetings are conducted wearing nothing but sacred underwear.


Bob LeChevalier wrote: "CB@PrayForMe.com" <CB@PrayForMe.com wrote:

That's what republicons did.

The Enemies of America know they can't mess with America when the

Party of 'moral authority' is in office.


There is no "Party of 'moral authority'"


The Enemies of America seemed to have no trouble messing with America

on 9/11 as well as in 1941.


You forgot 1861 when the peckerwoods opened fire on Old Glory at Fort Sumter.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 07:18:50 -0500, David Hartung <david@hotmaiil.com> wrote:


Zimmerman shouldn't have been anywhere near his victim.

Dispatch even told him not to follow his victim. Zimmerman

ignored the authoritative and attacked an innocent kid.

The 911 operator is not a "dispatcher" and has no authority over

callers..


Yes, they do.


Dispatchers advise according to training given by police.


THere is no law covering refusal to obey


There is perception of guilt if disobeyed and a crime is committed.

Oh boy, we now live in a country governed by perceptions of guilt rather than rule of law.


NoBody wrote:


Where is the electricity to charge up these cars supposed to come

from?

Liberals believe electricity comes from wall outlets. Food comes from Safeway.


Jazzy Belle wrote: On Apr 18, 7:45 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Jazzy Belle wrote: >

But Bob Larson brags about it, like KSIC does.

James 4:16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil. >

Cast out Demon Boast.


I just found out that, according to his second wife Laura. Bob Larson

supposedly suffered a heart attack.

Maybe he'll call his heart Jezebel and put the account under the Jezebel Attacks section of his website.


Eddie Haskell wrote:

Thank the lord they got back in time to address national security risk, Ted

Nugent.

They picked up a case of cat scratch fever in Columbia.


Jason wrote:

In article <GpOdnUvTjKU86BPSnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote: >

You are correct. However, I have read the entire Bible. When the Jews went

from Egypt to the Holy Land--they encountered evil groups of people.

They weren't Jews, they were Hebrews back then.


OK the Hebrews encountered evil groups of people and God ordered the

Hebrews to go to war with them and kill them.


Their "evil" consisted of living in the land that the Hebrews wanted.


HVAC wrote: On 4/18/2012 12:27 PM, duke wrote: > >

Jesus alone never sinned. Heb 4:15.



Yes he did.


Whipping innocent people is a sin.

John 2:15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;


Obama's War On Women wrote:


And if Romeny had eaten dog meat sometime in his life, it would lead all

the evening Obama Asslicking channels like MESSNBC.


Sarah Palin ate dog meat once, but she had no choice. She was driving her dog sled from city hall to her house in Alaska and she ran out of food and had to kill some of the huskies.


David Canzi wrote:


I have it on more reliable authority that catastrophes are the

result of nations not banning homosexuality.

A few years back when the first Gay Day took place at Disneyworld, Pat Robertson prophesied divine retribution. Cats and dogs sleeping together, real end of the world stuff. Then Florida began to experience a rash of wild fires. These fires took place in counties forming a ring around Orange County, where Orlando and Disneyworld lie, but none of the fires touched Orange County at all.


2960 Dead wrote:



Now watch. Some pretentious right wing wingbag with a smattering of

science (Blackie, for instance) is going to pipe up and say that the

temperature of the Earth has not increased from 259 Kelvin to 518

Kelvin.


259 Kelvin is 6.53 Fahrenheit.

518 Kelvin is 472.73 Fahrenheit.

The temperature of the Earth is 288.15 Kelvin, or 59 Fahrenheit.



Jazzy Belle wrote: On Apr 18, 8:38 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: >

Actually I think he sees me as Jezebel, if you read between the lines

of his Jezebel Attacks web page.

Jezebel worshiped Baal, because she was the daughter of the king of the Sidonians and that was the god of the Sidonians. Big deal. How could that be laid at her feet as "sin"? She wasn't a Hebrew. Ninety-nine percent of the world worshiped gods other than Yahweh, how come they didn't become just as reviled? If Elijah had a problem, it was with her husband the king of Israel, who converted to Baalism, not Jezebel. Leave the wife out of it (right, Hilary Rosen?).


This my recent change of my nym from KabukiBob to Jazzy Belle.


Besides I AM starting to like Jazz music...

I like chillout or "lounge" music, it sounds like this.

Force of Nature - Kontinents

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH10lrBANTo




BroilJAB wrote:

Atheists say that they do not believe

God exists. Yet this is an assertion of

a negative, and so can never be proved.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The assertion of a negative in the case of God is quite ordinary, since we don't hear radio stations broadcasting from heaven.


Barry OGrady wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:59:06 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:


So Abraham was testing God?


Heeheehee.


You laugh like a woman.

Don't insult women.


Wombat wrote:


IIRC, the fire bombing of Tokyo killed more people and burned up more

real estate that the two nuclear bombs combined. Was Tokyo a war

target?

Civilian areas have been war targets since Sherman's march from Atlanta to Savannah.


SkyEyes wrote:


There's no such thing as a "soul." That's just a theistic conceit.

When you die, you're dead. When your brain stops functioning, that's

all she wrote.


Without death, wealth and power would continue to accumulate in fewer and fewer immortal hands, and old ideas would never give way to new ones. Without death, people would not feel the vitality of living that the very brevity of our life stimulates, and the Earth would continue to fill up with people until everyone was eating those funny green graham crackers Charlton Heston found out about in Soylent Green.

Death is not really our enemy, no more than pain is our enemy. Pain is a defense mechanism, just as the fear of death is. People who cannot feel pain rarely live to be twenty years old, and those who feel we should wage a war against Demon Pain are as ignorant as those who mistake, as the slings and arrows of an enemy, the natural fear of death which is ingrained in all living things to cause them to avoid risky behaviors.

People pay good money and go on diets to keep themselves from extending to infinity in all directions in space, yet they lament that human life is finite, and seek the holy grail of making themselves unlimited in the direction of time. But look around you. Nothing in this world is meant to endure forever. Even the redwoods last for only 2,000 years, an eyeblink in the life of the Earth. In time the very sun will die.


Jason wrote:

In article <s4qdnU-AseXL_BLSnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote: >

Give me a fucking cite RIGHT NOW when Israel gave up land to the

Palestinians.

The last peace agreement. > >

The last peace agreement was with Jordan, and no disputed land was

involved. Before that, there was a peace agreement with Egypt, and the

only land that was given to Egypt was the Sinai, which was seized by

Israel in June 1967.


I do remember seeing Jews not wanting to surrender their buildings that

was in the land that was given to the Muslims.

That reminds me of one time when Steve Martin said, on the subject of death, "You know how they say you can't take it with you? *I'm taking it with me!*


Uirgil wrote:

In article

<a4867657-85b3-44fb-ae7e-4e12c4f72716@f5g2000vby.googlegroups.com>,

BroilJAB <DesignDenier@wmconnect.com

wrote:


Yesterday Obama said 'the rich should pay

30% in taxes'.


But the Republicans in the Senate, as usual, protected the rich and once

more stuck it to everyone else.

The Democratic controlled Senate too! Great trick.


Jason wrote:

In article <5qOdncrmlacQ7RLSnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote:

In article <GpOdnUvTjKU86BPSnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > Jason wrote: > > You are correct. However, I have read the entire Bible. When the Jews went > from Egypt to the Holy Land--they encountered evil groups of people.

They weren't Jews, they were Hebrews back then.

OK the Hebrews encountered evil groups of people and God ordered the

Hebrews to go to war with them and kill them. >

Their "evil" consisted of living in the land that the Hebrews wanted.


No--they were evil long before the HEBREWS even came to that part of the world.


That evil consisted of worshiping a different god than the Hebrews did.

   Which made ninety-nine percent of the world evil, and makes you evil 

too, because no Jew will allow that their god has a son.


John Manning wrote:


Yes, they call it "welfare" ...unless, of course, it goes to

record profit-making Big Oil and Big Money Corporations in the

form of multi-billion dollar subsidies or giant tax loopholes for

the wealthy.

Only a liberal would say tax cuts have to be "paid for". The same mind-set calls a tax cut "corporate welfare" as though money was being transfered to a corporation.



BroilJAB wrote:

Evolution is the only known 'science'

which needs laws to protect it from

skeptics asking questions.

And yet it was the teacher who taught evolution in Tennessee that had to pay a $100 fine in 1925.


JTEM wrote:



I suppose if you defined "Evolution" as "A religion

where Darwin is worshiped as an inerrant being"

you might have a point. But as this is not the case

that means you don't have a point.

Darwin's ideas were superceded by the Modern Synthesis which combined his work with that of Mendel, et al.


Jason wrote:



LOL--if you choose to believe that Jesus never went into the woods to pray

or meditate for several hours at a time--so be it.


"Woods" in Judea consisted of gnarled olive trees fifty feet apart.


Eddie Haskell wrote:

Looks like the democrats will have to revert back to their "obstructionist"

mantra.

All the "unprecedented" filibusters when the Pubs are in the Senate minority now will be de rigueur when the Donks are in the minority in 2013.


Garrett wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:40:10 -0700, Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com wrote:


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/obama-as-a-boy-ate-dog-meat/


OBAMA EATS DOGS


There's an ugly rumor going around that he also eats things that

dogs drop :-)

Talk about a man bites dog story.


Christopher Helms wrote:


You know what's not imaginary? The current Republican frontrunner, the dude The Base is supposed to be enthusiastically rallying around, is a half Mexican, half American, french speaking Mormon moderate, or liberal, or conservative, depending on which w


ay the wind is blowing at any given moment.

And if he picks Condi Rice to be his running mate, he'll have all the bases covered.


John Baker wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:53:52 -0600, Uirgil <uirgil@uirgil.ur wrote:


In article

<f38aa316-4524-4a1d-9f8f-591453d0a224@h20g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, BroilJAB <DesignDenier@wmconnect.com wrote: >

Duke is pretty queer himself.


70 years old, never married, no kids...


He's tried speed dating, but he always kicks in with his laugh and they never get back to him. Heeheeheeheeheehee!


Jason wrote:


How---I have never seen a hearst with a U-Haul trailer attached to the

back of it. Have you?


Only at a lesbian funeral.


Antares 531 wrote:

On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:44:05 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy.ferrit@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:21:55 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote: >

Hmmm...for example, what is the "equivalent

spiritual explanation" for Charge Parity

violation?

Hmmm, the biblical account of the creation of the universe (spiritual) matches

the scientific explanation of the big bang.

Except the bible is total hogwash and explains nothing. Explain why

he creates the sun twice? >

Where does it say that God created the sun twice?

Well, he says let there be light on day one, then makes the sun on day four.


duke wrote:

On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:47:20 -0700, "Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess" <goddess@fidemturbare.com wrote:


Schrodinger??? You call your pussy schrodinger??

Maybe.


duke wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 07:45:55 +1000, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au wrote:


God likes to do that himself.


Never hurt one person before.

And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt...


Brother Love wrote:

Since atheists are not Christian they know nothing of TRUE LOVE.

Christian true love:

Revelation 6:

[9] And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

[10] And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?


mkillian wrote:


Wrong Skippy. International gun smuggler and Attorney General Eric (the

muslim) Holder is suing the states to make sure ID is NOT needed in to

vote.

Because if you card a Democrat his driver's license will say Elvis or Osama bin Laden.


Mike Painter wrote:

On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 06:53:53 -0500, duke<duckgumbo32@cox.net
wrote:

>

Earl used to claim to be an engineer. >

All you have to do is provide the simplest and most straightforward

answer,

mikey. I'm retired, and my name is duke. >

The simplest and most straight forward answer?


You are probably still afraid to tell where you got your alleged degree

and in what. (He's afraid of what I might do with the information)

Sure as shit wasn't electrical engineering, he doesn't have integral calculus.



BroilJAB wrote:

Atheists must labor constantly to try and blot

out manifest Design in: Life, the Cosmos.

Design. Right. Nipples for men.


Obama's Sauteed Dog Meat Dinner wrote:



"Phlip" <phlip2005@gmail.com wrote in message

news:1c00c556-e1d9-4521-8ff7-acae914c41b8@2g2000yqk.googlegroups.com... >

Describing a father with mental illness and a religion fixation, the

refrain "he shall be Levon" rhymes with "he shall believe on." >

There, I just changed how each of you will hear that song, ever again.

==

Most didn't know that Jimmy Hendrix was gay . They thought some of the

words in PURPLE HAZE were " excuse me while I kiss the sky ", when

actually the lyrics were " excuse me while I kiss this Guy".


There, I just changed how you will hear that song forever.



Blinded by the light, wrapped up like a douche, another rubber in the night....

There, I just changed how you will hear that song forever.


Phlip wrote: On Apr 19, 1:46 am, Foxtrot <foxt...@null.com wrote:


Let's tell the tens of millions of voters whose loyal dogs love them

unconditionally and joyously meet them at the door every day when

they get home that their dear family companions are nothing more

than "native cruisine [sic]".


All it takes is a little multiculturalism and you guys just lose your

marbles.

It's a dog eat dog world.


Tracey12 wrote:


A bill already passed by the Senate and set to be rubber stamped by

the House would make it mandatory for all new cars in the United

States to be fitted with black box data recorders from 2015 onwards.


The black boxes are designed to survive a head-on collision. Now if they would only make the whole car from the same material.


Jason wrote:

In article <s4qdnUWAseUN-BLSnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jeanne Douglas wrote: >

You mean the point of view that the top 1% deserve to own all the

wealth and the rest of us should be grateful for the scraps? That

point of view?

So in your math class they taught you that 43 percent of the wealth is

"all the wealth" and that 57 percent of the wealth is scraps. Check.


It would be great if everyone was truly equal.

No it wouldn't. I'm orders of magnitude better than you, and to be truly equal I'd have to step down.


2960 Dead wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:46:54 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


Eddie Haskell wrote:

Thank the lord they got back in time to address national security risk,

Ted Nugent.

They picked up a case of cat scratch fever in Columbia.


Occupational hazard in a cat house, eh what?


Confucius say wife who put man in dog house soon find him in cat house.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:31:01 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


There is perception of guilt if disobeyed and a crime is committed.

Oh boy, we now live in a country governed by perceptions of guilt rather

than rule of law.


Why, that's why we hate rightwingers.


We're not talking "guilt", we're talking probably cause, you doofus.

To convict, you must convince twelve jurors that a person is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.


Jazzy Belle wrote:


BTW I've been doing some digging up on the parents of the two "teens"

in Larson's "teen exorcists" project. One actually is 20 years old and

not technically a teen. Interesting that the parents run Ocp

Ministries.

Still, when a man in his sixties goes after that strange it's considered poaching by the boys her own age.


chibiabos wrote:


I'm confused. If God made man out of dust, why does Conchita have to

dust my living room twice a week? >

Most of that dust is dead human skin cells.


Tom McDonald wrote:



But it's OK for Jews to take buildings that were on land given to the

Palestinians?


Might makes right, apparently.


Mogons wrote:


Let's be realistic, shall we? There may be a Democratic majority in

the Senate, but we all know it's controlled by the Republicans since

the Democrats have no balls. >

I resemble that ball-less remark.


Greegor wrote:

""linuxgal"" I'm not posting from a.f.b-l,

""linuxgal"" but alt.atheism. Trim the headers and see!


As if you really thought that lame ass argument would work?

No, really, try it. Every time you see a post that's crossposted into a.a., delete that newsgroup from the header. Soon you won't see me, as Sir Paul sang on Rubber Soul.


Lady Veteran wrote:


I bet you had a Jewish nanny when you were a tiny little Nazi and you

got spanked too hard when you refused to keep your swastika in your

pants.

Her name was Frau Blucher.

whinny::


duke wrote:


John 2:15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them

all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the

changers' money, and overthrew the tables;


Those in particular were not innocent. They got caught red handed.


Not everyone was a farmer, but they still had to sacrifice animals in that religion. So they shelled out cash, and bought some animals. If Jesus succeeded in shutting that operation down for good, then a lot of craftsmen would be essentially excommunicated. It would be like the Vatican saying they don't take cash or checks anymore, only home-grown chickens.


Wombat wrote: On Apr 19, 1:02 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Wombat wrote: >

IIRC, the fire bombing of Tokyo killed more people and burned up more

real estate that the two nuclear bombs combined. Was Tokyo a war

target?

Civilian areas have been war targets since Sherman's march from Atlanta

to Savannah.


Long before that.

I was confining my remarks to US policy.


BroilJAB wrote:

Man no longer has access to the Tree of Life

and the Garden at Eden. He has better: Man

may come of his own volition to Christ. He

alone can save you.

He saves you from himself. Because the unsaved are tortured by Jesus day and night, and they have no rest, and the smoke of their torment ascendeth for ever. So it's like saying, "Pay Tony Soprano the vig, because he alone can save you."


BroilJAB wrote:

WARNING to Lurkers: Do NOT click on the sites

listed by Calvin Ramsey. They are loaded with

Malware, Trojans, Viruses, and even KeyLogger.

Linux is immune.


BroilJAB wrote:

Yesterday Obama said 'the rich should pay

30% in taxes'. Today Obama released his own

Tax Records. It showed him with million$ in

UNEARNED money and that he paid ONLY 20%

in taxes.

That's probably why he said the word "should" rather than "already".


Richard Steel wrote: On Apr 18, 9:22 pm, obama eats dog <ret...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Anyone see No the dog lately?


Too bad for your sorry ass there isn't a shred of fucking evidence

that proves that dog meat is on the WH menu, you pathetic clueless

babbling fucking asshole moron.


heh... another fuck heard from.... I just wonder if Bama puts ketchup

on his dog.... it's illegal in Chicago.... so I'm sure he does....


Obama ate dog when he was a kid? Well, that explains his floppy ears.

Like a drop-leaf table.


Jason wrote:



No--but we did find fish fossils on the tops of mountains in Virginia. We

all believed Noah's Flood was the reason for those fossils.



Why, what happened to the fish in Noah's Flood, did they drown?


Jason wrote:



However, even before the volcano happened at Mt. Helens--we believed the

world quickly recovered after Noah's Flood was over.



So quickly that the sons and grandsons and great-grandsons of Noah each become the "George Washington" of his own nation, ranging from Ethiopia to Yemen to Russia. Nimrod gets a nod as the founder of Babel. Asshur built Nineveh in Iraq and the cities of Rehoboth and Calah. Three or four generations out from Noah the Earth might have had enough people to form a clan in a single village. But the Scriptures are talking about these gentlemen building huge cities. Discuss.


Wombat wrote:

>

That is specious rubbish. The paintings can be washed off the walls.

A flood would have left the paintings at Lasceux et al. water damaged,

but they are in fact pristine in most cases. Are you aware that the

painters of the cave are thought to have survived through your floode,

being the Basques of today. This is not yet certain, but it explains

so much.

Those paintings are pretty dang good by the way. And there's some pre-historic pottery from Egypt with beautiful human figures on them, very artistic. The ancients weren't dummies or childlike.


Mitchell Holman wrote:


   Obviously you haven't been there in the last decade. 

Mt St Helens still looks like a moonscape, but seedling

trees are starting to grow and some fauna is returning

This is what it looked like when I went there a year and a half ago.

http://www.cleanposts.com/index.php/Helens


wy wrote:


Poll numbers are temporary and ever shifting. The only polls that

matter are the ones that come out in October, which often determine

who the winner will be.


Anything could happen. Nobody can predict the future. If psychic hotlines really worked, how come they always request my Visa card number and expiration date?


Jason wrote:



What about the dozens of major flood stories from various cultures?



The big one is the Epic of Gilgamesh, Tablet XI. That's where the Jews in Babylon got the story in the first place, and retrofitted it into the Torah they were cooking up.


Jason wrote:



Romney knows that if he eliminates Medicare and Medicaid that he will

become a one term president. He may end ObamaCare.

End ObamaCare when he crafted RomneyCare? I don't see it happening.


Tom McDonald wrote:


Bagpipes. When you speak, I hear bagpipes. For the which, many thanks.

As a true Scotsman, who would never eat his porridge with butter (or is

that without butter?), and who loves haggis (or is that hates haggis?),

I love the music o' th' pipes. Whenever you pull a 'No True Scotsman'

fallacy, I listen to a pipe band play "Scotland the Brave"! :-)

FREEDOM!!!!!!


Sid9 wrote:

Where was Limbo today?

He did not broadcast.


Doctor shopping again.


The Eat Your Peas President wrote:

(Reuters) - A year ago, in Action Comics, Superman declared plans to

renounce his U.S. citizenship.


He was born on Krypton anyway, and therefore was an illegal immigrant. He did not obtain a visa at the US embassy on that planet before entering the country.

Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:06:21 -0700, MattB. <trdell1234@gmail.com....... wrote:


Israel honors 6 million victims of Nazi Holocaust


Reagan honored the SS death camp guards just before flying to Berlin

to take credit for what Europeans did taking down the Soviet Union.

The Soviet Union took itself down, because a centrally planned economy never works.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:00:23 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:31:01 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > > There is perception of guilt if disobeyed and a crime is committed.

Oh boy, we now live in a country governed by perceptions of guilt rather

than rule of law.

Why, that's why we hate rightwingers. >

We're not talking "guilt", we're talking probably cause, you doofus.

To convict, you must convince twelve jurors that a person is guilty

beyond a reasonable doubt.


To have a fucking trial---you have to have an arrest and indictment


40+ days no arrest---until the shitditch was stirred up and forced the

State to act.


That's why Z-man will probably walk. There's nothing here but a kangaroo show trial.


nicholas henwood wrote:

US guy reveals new way to make $500 every day from home with a

computer and internet. He used his mobile device and home PC and made

$2357 in just a matter of a week.

You forgot the printer. Can't make money without a printer.


HVAC wrote: On 4/20/2012 4:42 AM, Painius wrote: > >

That's your gut feeling, or just a hunch? >

Since the beginning of my study of astronomy, I have thought of the

Universe as "infinite". Now, it appears that science may be beginning

to come around to my way of thinking...



Finite but unbounded.

That's speculation. You can stand in a cornfield with the horizon just three miles away and say the earth is finite because the horizon is an artifact of the earth being an oblate spheroid,. But the horizon astronomers are looking at is based on the finite amount of time since the universe began to expand. Inflation took most of the universe out of our light-cone. The universe might have started with infinite mass and the big bang merely initiated a process whereby empty space was inserted dynamically between the particles. Science has not rendered a verdict at this time.


duke wrote:


Just as Judiasm is the "next step" from paganism, the Christian NT is the "next

step" from the OT.


Rational materialism is the next step up from the God hypothesis.


Jason wrote:


Build the pipeline--it will mean that there will be about 20,000 new high

paying jobs ASAP. Even if those jobs last for only 2 or 3 years--it's

better than no new jobs at all.


And then when the pipeline is built, Canadian bitumen will go straight from Alberta to China with nary a benefit to the US.



Andrew W wrote:


The burqa is like a very large condom.

Western men wear their condoms on their members when necessary.

Islamic men just make their women wear the condom on their whole bodies

every day.


As a Taoist and a minimalist, I'm always impressed by social situations which contain their own built-in punishment. In the West, women can wear two-piece swimsuits and micro-miniskirts. We call this eye candy.


Jason wrote:

In article <3dmdnQyL-_QZUA3SnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote: >

No--but we did find fish fossils on the tops of mountains in Virginia. We

all believed Noah's Flood was the reason for those fossils. > >

Why, what happened to the fish in Noah's Flood, did they drown?


Lots of them died due to the oceans becoming polluted with huge amounts of soil.


Is that what it says in your scripture? Because my scripture only says, "And all flesh died that moved upon the earth." You shouldn't add to scripture. Eve did that when she said to the serpent (concerning the forbidden fruit) "neither shall ye touch it"...which God did not command, and in Revelation it says, "If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book."


Steve wrote:


Barry went off and got his PhD so he'd have something to brag about...

because he had nothing else worth noting...

He got a Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing, so I'm not too impressed with his PhD in Kwanzaa Studies.


Jason wrote:

In article <QvGdnVB3K5mM1AzSnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote:

In article <3dmdnQyL-_QZUA3SnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: >

Why, what happened to the fish in Noah's Flood, did they drown?

Lots of them died due to the oceans becoming polluted with huge

amounts of soil.

Is that what it says in your scripture? Because my scripture only

says, "And all flesh died that moved upon the earth." You shouldn't

add to scripture. Eve did that when she said to the serpent (concerning

the forbidden fruit) "neither shall ye touch it"...which God did not

command, and in Revelation it says, "If any man shall add unto these

things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book."


It was an opinion based upon what I seen happen when a local flooded creek

was carrying its water into the Pacific Ocean. That area of the ocean was

very brown in color since that flooded creek had muddy water in it.

In order to cover Mt. Everest, which is 5.5 miles high, the Noahide FLood would have had more than twice as much water on the earth than there is right now, because the ocean is an average of 2.5 miles deep. This vast quantity of water would sufficiently dilute any muddy runoff that might harm the fishes.


Salty Stan wrote:


That's OK. Most liberals don;t know what they're talking about either. Otherwise, they wouldn't be liberals.

LIBERAL: Lacking Intelligence But Eagerly Reducing American Liberty



2966 Dead wrote:


To Republicans, morals are something you inflict on other people.


Obama's policies are working. The American factory is turning into a work-free drug place.


Obama's Sauteed Dog Meat Dinner wrote:


At Red Sox game, President Obama comes on big screen to recognize

Fenway's 100th anniversary, followed by loud chorus of boos.

That's because in his speech he went off Teleprompter and said, "Let me be clear. For one hundred years no Red Sox quarterback Tebowed after his touchdowns and I don't want to see it start today."


Jason wrote:


LOL--why are you against a jobs program that would provide some real

shovel ready high-paying jobs?



The Obama Administration is importing three-man shovels from North Korea to support those jobs.


Tronscend wrote:


1 farthing (the lowest value coin) = 1/4 penny

A ha'penny (Half penny - a copper coin) = 1/2 penny (pronounced "heipni")

1 penny (a copper coin) = one of the basic units (1d)

Threepence or Thruppenny Bit = 3 pence (pronounced "thrupence")

Sixpence (a silver coin also called a 'tanner') = 6 pence

1 shilling = 12 pence (1s)

1 florin (a silver coin that numismatists regard as one of the most

beautiful medieval English coins) = 2 shillings

A half-crown = 2 shillings and 6 pence

1 crown = 5 shillings = 1/4 pound

1 pound = 20 shillings = 240 pence (£1)

1 sovereign = a gold coin with a face value of one pound (about .24 ounces

of 22 carat gold)

How much is one bob?



Garrett wrote:

I've enjoyed watching it as an early evening program for several

years. But for some strange reason -- the people in charge have

begun to make social experiments with the contestants.


In the past year, one might say the "complexion" of the show has

changed.

Yeah, one of the puzzles came out "Word to your mother" trying to reach out to a more diverse audience, but it really just means the producers are dorks.


SilentOtto@hotmail.com wrote:


In 1988, Duke switched party affiliation from Democrat to Republican,

where he was promptly elected to the Louisiana House of

Representatives.

He was still nothing but sheet for brains.


Free Lunch wrote:

On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:47:31 -0500, Tom McDonald

<tmcdonald2672@charter.net wrote in alt.talk.creationism:


And why the Gulf? Why not the West Coast? Why not Vancouver? >

I guess it's google time for me.


I wonder if refineries are even more disliked than oil sands extraction

or if they are just too expensive to get decent returns on investment.

The First Nations are going to court and blocking the pipeline through British Columbia, so the tar sands folks are trying the Keystone route.


Ted Parvo wrote: On Apr 20, 11:15 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net wrote:

Far righties are nothing if not hypocrites. >

Ann Coulter and Tracey write something that *presumably* (wink, wink)

supports the idea that Republicans are not racists. >

Then, they have the nerve to use a racist term ("Negros With Guns"),

filled with hatred, in their "defense". >

-Ramon


Now the word Negro is racist.

Somebody better tell the United Negro College Fund, no?


ThomMadura wrote: On 4/19/2012 9:28 PM, linuxgal wrote: duke wrote:

On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 07:45:55 +1000, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au wrote: >

God likes to do that himself. >

Never hurt one person before. >

And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn

in the land of Egypt...



Typical cafeteria christian

One can normally contradict a quote from the bible - with another one

from the bible

True, but in this case, I'm contradicting an unbiblical assertion from Duke with a quote from the Bible.


Billy-Bob Thorton wrote:


Oh, sorry Duke.


You're a Catholic.


You're also into idolatry.

What we have here is failure to excommunicate.


Alan Ferris wrote:



James 26:13 If anyone thinks he is religious and does not

bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, his religion

is vain.


Christians who sow discord on a global forum, whowouldathunkit?


duke wrote:


My cup runneth over with truth.

My killfile runneth over with trolls.


duke wrote:


Don't remember it, but the 3 stooges have nothing but love in their hearts - a

good combination with nuns.

What kind of meat does the Pope eat on Fridays of Lent? Nun.


duke wrote:


No, that's just stinky. Priests have paid housekeepers.


17 year old boys in French maid outfits don't count.


duke wrote: On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 04:19:14 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

Just as Judiasm is the "next step" from paganism, the Christian NT is the "next

step" from the OT. >

Rational materialism is the next step up from the God hypothesis.


Then it's all over your head.


Yeah, science doesn't know how to cancel the Earth's rotation for a day, then let it resume, just to alter the outcome of a battle, without melting the crust. It's over our head. You got us Duke.


BroilJAB wrote:

The atheist actually believes that:

nothing else is real, except him.

This explains: Marx, Darwin, Dahmer

Strawberry fields forever.


BroilJAB wrote:

Obama slammed Gov Romney for putting a dog carrier

on his car roof.

I don't know what his problem is. A man gets hungry on long trips and Romney set it up so he could reach through his sunroof and tear off a haunch.


duke wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:45:57 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:31:27 -0500, Romney: A Polygamist whose career has been destroying America's middle class <rom@skls.com wrote: > On 4/16/2012 1:58 PM, Falstaff wrote:

Kept the American hating republicans out of the oval office.

Republicans are the ones that love America. Buckwheat loves muslims.

So does Jesus. In fact, if a Christian doesn't love his neighbor, he's

got some 'splainin' to do on the Last Day.


But we don't have to stand still for his evil.

By accusing the President of loving Muslims, you are saying all Muslims are evil.


Abd AlWahab Abd Allah wrote:


“Or (the unbelievers’ state) is like the darkness in a deep sea. It

is covered by waves, above which are waves, above which are clouds.

Darknesses, one above another. If a man stretches out his hand, he

cannot see it....” (Quran 24:40)


When I go to the casino I order a Bin Laden. That's two shots, and a splash of water.


hamilton parsons wrote:


And as a music fan. Courtney Love to Kurt Cobain is like Yoko Ono

was to John Lennon.

And if he lived, Nirvana would have put out a double album with shit like Revolution #9 on it.


hamilton parsons wrote:


The Osmond's were tantamount to "The Jackson 5" in my day!

Ironic, since rock 'n' roll is slang for sex. Rock music is really fuck music.


hamilton parsons wrote:


Here's what happened in my dad's day. He was a WW2 veteran along with

his brothers. Many of the people he went to High School with died

before they were 25. And they enlisted in 1939, when the war began.

Not 1942 when it began for the USA.

Yeah, the US had it easy, got in late, and that stuff that happened after V-E day, like Okinawa, Iwo Jima, that wasn't such a big deal.


Richard Steel wrote:

It's called "The HOUNDS of the Basketballs!"

Ah blow my nose at you, so-called Obama Keeeng!


Barry OGrady wrote:


Duke fails the Turing test.

He's just a Perl script.


hypatiab7 wrote: On Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:45:49 AM UTC-4, Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote: >

That's because we see all types here in this "alt.atheism" newsgroup. >

I'm 65, too. Lots of us oldies but toughies still around. I was in my 40s

when I first came here.

You kids don't know how good you got it with your newfangled Firefox plugins. Back in my day we loaded our TRS-80 newsreader from cassette tapes. And we paid for it with money that oinked.


Jason wrote:


Under the ocean. I live near the pacific ocean and we have a large creek

flowing thru our city. We had a 10 day flood. The city creek became

flooded with muddy water. I went to the area near the ocean where the

flooded muddy creek flowed directly into the Pacific Ocean. The ocean was

very muddy in that area since the muddy water from the creek was making

the ocean in that area muddy in color. In other words, huge amounts of the

soil in that creek is now under the ocean. That happened quite a lot

during Noah's flood.

You're looking at the surface. The ocean is more than two miles deep. There's not enough mud in the world (which is only 29% land to start with) to contaminate that much water.



Milt wrote: On Apr 18, 8:45 pm, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com wrote: >

Should not an employer be able to hie whom he wishes?


Based on merit, and the ability to do the job, yes.


Based on religious belief, of course not.

He should be able to hire or fire on a whim, based on whatever criteria he decides, merit, religion, you name it. It's his money he's using to purchase that labor. Anything else is enslaving the employer to the state.


Chet Quigley wrote:


We want a Mormon President in the White House.


Millions of black people are Christians, but few black people are

Mormons.

Blacks for a Mormon President would be like chickens for Colonel Sanders.


vithant@gmail.com wrote:

Courtney Love said she pleasured him orally while twelve years old. This is why conservatives are against sex ed in school. They like to teach about sex at home where they think it belongs.

Family reunions in Georgia are also meat markets.


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 14:42:13 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy.ferrit@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


1981 — Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI) becomes

prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the

Vatican's watchdog agency for faith and morals, including the

investigation of serious crimes.


Better known as the inquisition.

Nobody inspects the Spanish exhibition!


2966 Dead wrote:


Reminds me of when Newt Gingrich painted George McGovern as a 'peacenik'

who 'didn't support the military'. Newt, of course, never served.

McGovern held the Silver Star.

The word for that is chickenhawk.


jane wrote:



Didn't the Bible state that King Davids wives (plural) were a gift

from God?


When David was on his death bed he shivered all the time. They piled blankets on him, but he was still cold. So finally they rounded up a virgin to crawl into his bed to give him heat, which she promptly did. But it was strictly business. The noble and kingly King David was a man with a very strong will, who never once took advantage of the situation.

"And the damsel was very fair, and cherished the king, and ministered to him: but the king knew her not."

David's wife Bathsheba was nearby, what was wrong with her body heat? At any rate, it is perks like deathbed virgin heating pads that has inspired men to become kings throughout history.


Eat your Peas & Dog wrote:

Now we find out Penetta is using military jets to fly home every

weekend costing taxpayers millions $$$$$$$

He's a Scud. All the Patriots are out to get him.


Billy-Bob Thorton wrote:

You appear to hold conservative values along with an unusual

skepticism about religious faith.


Please explain. It does not compute.

I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I prefer to address topics on a case-by-case basis rather than as a set of talking points from one party or another. If a fellow netizen is otherwise atheist, but holds to an unfalsifiable belief in anthropogenic global warming, then I will take them to task as surely as I will go after a young earther.


hypatiab7 wrote: On Saturday, April 21, 2012 12:05:06 AM UTC-4, Olrik wrote:

Le 2012-04-20 08:28, Don Kresch a écrit :

Solution? >

Stop feeding the fucking trolls!

I do. But you're worse than a troll: you're a genuine kook, a mentally

challenged, maladjusted teen who thinks anarchy builds civilizations.


Don is no teen. He's been in and out of alt.atheism for many years.

The only teens on USENET are cops.


Jason wrote:


I still believe that ObamaCare will cost as much as Medicare is presently

costing. It's impossible to provide free medical insurance to over 30

million Americans without it cost billions of dollars per year.


So they just go to the emergency room, and the taxpayer reimburses the hospital to the tune of billions of dollars per year.



wy wrote: On Apr 21, 10:53 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Milt wrote: On Apr 18, 8:45 pm, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com wrote:

Should not an employer be able to hie whom he wishes?

Based on merit, and the ability to do the job, yes.

Based on religious belief, of course not.

He should be able to hire or fire on a whim, based on whatever criteria

he decides, merit, religion, you name it. It's his money he's using to

purchase that labor. Anything else is enslaving the employer to the state.


He's already enslaved when he needs to get a business license and

follow the rules of the license and thereby any peripheral local,

state and federal rules and laws concerning the operation of the

business, including hiring and firing. Your universe doesn't exist in

the real world.


The slave-free universe didn't exist in the south-of-the-Mason-Dixon line world until the federals went down there and stomped some peckerwoods.


Joe Cool wrote: On Apr 20, 12:30 pm, Richard Steel <rsteel2...@aol.com wrote:

....while Obama just eats his.


Obama does NOT eat dogs, you pathetic clueless babbling fucking

asshole moron.

It's big news, haven't you heard? If a dog bites a man, ho hum. But if a man bites a dog, it's front page stuff.


Barbarian Mutual wrote:

On Apr 19, 8:25 pm, "Obama's Sauteed Dog Meat Dinner" <Dog Meat : It's Whats for Dinner @ White House.org wrote:

Minnesota Taxpayers Stuck Footing The Bill For Wind They Can't Use or Sell


"Minnesota's wind power production capacity grew by more than 500

megawatts last year"


And that's just the hot air from Al Franken.


Tronscend wrote:

"linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com skrev i melding >

How much is one bob?



AFAIK, a bob is a colloqial name for a shilling (20th part of a pound).


Thanks. I saw the reference in a Sherlock Holmes story and I didn't know what it was.



Jeanne Douglas wrote: On Apr 20, 4:27 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: >

In order to cover Mt. Everest, which is 5.5 miles high, the Noahide

FLood would have had more than twice as much water on the earth than

there is right now, because the ocean is an average of 2.5 miles deep.

This vast quantity of water would sufficiently dilute any muddy runoff

that might harm the fishes.


However, that very dilution would drastically change the salinity of

the water, which would kill most of those fish.

Someone should write it up in Nature.



duke wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:28:17 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 07:45:55 +1000, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au wrote: >

God likes to do that himself.

Never hurt one person before.

And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn

in the land of Egypt...


But was it real? Or was it a lesson in sinfulness when the pharaoh refused to

let them go and the penalty thus is extracted.


I don't care if it was right or wrong, I'm only addressing your statement that God never hurt one person. Which now has been satisfactorily contradicted.


Dänk 42Ø wrote:

On 04/19/2012 05:38 PM, 2960 Dead quacked:

http://www.readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/11023-focus-barack-

obama-and-the-centrist-fantasy >

Barack Obama and the 'Centrist' Fantasy


There is no such thing as "centrist" in American politics. With Stalin

on the left and Hitler on the right, the "center" is still totalitarian.

Create a plane, with one axis representing social freedom (left for anything goes, right for no two women getting hitched), and the other axis representing marketplace freedom (up for laissez-fair anarcho-capitalism, down for total central planning) and you will have a more meaningful analysis of political positions.


Alex W. wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:17:24 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


Jason wrote: >

How---I have never seen a hearst with a U-Haul trailer attached to the

back of it. Have you? >

Only at a lesbian funeral.


Damn, that sounds like the Westboro Baptists need to picket those

funerals, too!

God Hates Flannel!


Calvin Ramsey wrote:

Those not elected are not saved.

I guess that means G.W. Bush is going straight to the Inferno.


sully wrote: On Apr 19, 5:41 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: John Manning wrote:

Yes, they call it "welfare" ...unless, of course, it goes to

record profit-making Big Oil and Big Money Corporations in the

form of multi-billion dollar subsidies or giant tax loopholes for

the wealthy.

Only a liberal would say tax cuts have to be "paid for". The same

mind-set calls a tax cut "corporate welfare" as though money was being

transfered to a corporation.


Only a reich winger sees avoidance of paying

taxes as a right of the aristocracy.


When people say a tax cut has to be "paid for" (Mr. Obama did it today in his weekly radio address) they are committing a fallacy. They refuse to entertain the notion that government programs should be scaled to match revenues, not the other way around.


BroilJAB wrote:

It will be funny if the court rules that NASA

can fire a man for being a skeptic of Junk

Science.

She was walking all alone Down the street in the alley Her name was Sally She never saw it When she was hit by space junk


Devils Advocaat wrote: On Apr 20, 7:19 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

In article <WIWdnVzYjo_bKA3SnZ2dnUVZ_qGdn...@giganews.com>, linuxgal > <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Jason wrote:

LOL--if you choose to believe that Jesus never went into the woods to pray

or meditate for several hours at a time--so be it.

"Woods" in Judea consisted of gnarled olive trees fifty feet apart.

I grew up in western Virginia so when I think of the woods--I think of a

mountain filled with thousands of trees.


So your knowledge of the varying environments of the world is heavily

influenced by your childhood environment?

I saw more big tent revivals than trees when I drove across West By God Fucking Virginia.


Eris wrote:

Because nothing shows your faith in God like 4 inches of bullet proof glass

And ever since 1992 it has been sporting a Darwin fish.


duke wrote: On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:23:53 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


True, but in this case, I'm contradicting an unbiblical assertion from

Duke with a quote from the Bible.


No points. An angel did it - death for sin. In the OT, death is a physical

action. In Christianity, it's spiritual.


Except when it's a physical action.

Acts 5:

[9] Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.

[10] Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.

[11] And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.


duke wrote: On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:27:11 -0400, ThomMadura <Tommadura@optonline.net wrote: >

AND as the bible says - everything the god created HE SAW WAS GOOD!


God didn't create satanville. He allows it. And if you want it, that's good. >

If God is all-powerful, and all-good, and he allows Satanville, then Satanville is good.



duke wrote:



A woman, always complaining about not being equal.

Any woman who seeks equality with men lacks ambition.


MarkA wrote: On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:19:43 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


Billy-Bob Thorton wrote:

You appear to hold conservative values along with an unusual skepticism

about religious faith. >

Please explain. It does not compute.

I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I prefer to address

topics on a case-by-case basis rather than as a set of talking points from

one party or another. If a fellow netizen is otherwise atheist, but

holds to an unfalsifiable belief in anthropogenic global warming, then I

will take them to task as surely as I will go after a young earther.


Same here. About the fiscally conservative/socially liberal thing. AGW

is, however, a settled issue.

Settled issue. That is precisely what I mean by "unfalsifiable".


Olrik wrote:


Don't blame Obama, blame the entire system. And work to reform it. Your

focus on Obama makes you look like a racist simpleton.


Don't hate the black pieces, don't hate the white pieces, hate the chess game.


JOSHUA <G>< wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:56:17 -0700 (PDT), Dixe Hollins <mikeaklein@yahoo.com wrote:


Reports have a tunnel being constructed between the White House and

the LDS Temple in Bethesda. Dixie.


Are you sure that is not ‘hearsay’?

Back in the 1970s I was told there was a giant computer in Brussels called the "Beast" which contained the personal information of every person in the world, and in a few years, just after the anti-Christ, Jimmy Carter, forced Israel to sign a seven year peace treaty, no one would be able to buy or sell without a MARC (Market Access Registration Coding).


2966 Dead wrote:


Watergate figure Charles Colson has died at 80


Last words, "I am not a clown!"


Richard Steel wrote:


Why does he need the government to force him to pay more taxes? Why

doesn't he simply write a check to the Feds for 36 billion dollars, to

show the rest of us how it's done?

Righties do the same sort of thing. Instead of blocking programs, or enforcing a decision by the paterfamilias that their children may not watch a program with two women engaging in a passionate kiss, they petition the FCC to get it off the air instead.



Richard Steel wrote:


You define any lasting, long term policy, program or goal that is

posittive as "liberal". If it's good, it must be Liberal. If it's

bad, it must be Conservative.

Nothing is so permanant as a Temporary Government Program.


duke wrote: On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 06:21:21 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

My cup runneth over with truth.

My killfile runneth over with trolls.


Not good. You are a fiscally conservative, socially liberal poster who should

be willing to listen to others. To killfile is to admit that you can't stand up

to discussion with those you disagree with.

There's no discussion with people who say AGW is "settled science" or who say "God said it, I believe it, end of topic".


Mitchell Holman wrote:



    And yet the lowest point in the US - Death Valley - has

NO mud from your supposed flood. The volcanic dust that is

there has been in place for millions of years.



o/\o (High five!)


teak wrote:


As always burden of proof is on the believer. This is a mute point. Like what acme first the chicken or the egg. Except one egg doesn't excist, and the chicken can't be proved.


The chicken came first because God didn't feel like sitting on an egg for three weeks.


BroilJAB wrote:

Fossil evidence shows that giant sloths roamed

the America's several thousand years ago. But

they all went extinct.

No they didn't, they because US government bureaucrats.


duke wrote:


The beginning of the end for ritual cannibalism was about 2000 years before the

birth of the Messiah when God stopped Abraham from sacrificing his first born

unblemished son.

Maybe if Abraham told God to fuck off when God ordered him to sacrifice his first born unblemished son, the end of ritual cannibalism would have happened a week or two earlier.


duke wrote: On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 06:31:54 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:



Yeah, science doesn't know how to cancel the Earth's rotation for a day,

then let it resume, just to alter the outcome of a battle, without

melting the crust. It's over our head. You got us Duke.


Thank you. It's about time you understood this.


Now as far as the earth's rotation being canceled, you need to go to the

scientific journals for more information.


Conservation of angular momentum. Of course, you can always fall back to Goddidit, where he just waves his wand like Albus Dumbledore.


duke wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:12:13 -0700, Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:


Even if it took a few centuries to apologise for their treatment of

Galileo.


Galileo should have kept his mouth closed. Bruno went to the stake.


So you disagree with Karol Wojtyla's apology? Do you think the Pope should have kept HIS mouth shut too?


* US * wrote: On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 16:47:53 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


... I will vote ...


No, you have a blackbox, not a ballot.

We vote by mail in the Soviet of Washington.


Marvin the Martian wrote: >

Gosh, ya think that 'Carbon tax' and the power that goes with regulating

everyone's 'carbon footprint' might motivate them to pay for junk

"science" that enables them to tax and regulate everyone?

If the government announced a $9.3 million dollar grant to study something stupid like, say, "the design and development of a coordinated colony of robotic bees" scientists and engineers would line up for it, right? No? Too silly?

http://www.verumserum.com/?p=11141


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:



"linuxgal" <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in message

news:R7-dnaHlSqOeTA_SnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@giganews.com... hypatiab7 wrote: On Saturday, April 21, 2012 12:05:06 AM UTC-4, Olrik wrote:

Le 2012-04-20 08:28, Don Kresch a écrit : > Solution? >> > Stop feeding the fucking trolls!

I do. But you're worse than a troll: you're a genuine kook, a

mentally challenged, maladjusted teen who thinks anarchy builds

civilizations. >

Don is no teen. He's been in and out of alt.atheism for many years. >

The only teens on USENET are cops.


I started posting on this chat board when I was in my teens.

What's your outfit? Local? FBI?


John Manning wrote: On 4/22/2012 8:42 AM, • R. L. Measures. wrote:

In article<Mu-dnQUWcJ9d-w7SnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews.com>, John Manning <jrobertm@terra.com.br

wrote:

> On 4/21/2012 9:56 PM, Dixe Hollins wrote:

Reports have a tunnel being constructed between the White House and

the LDS Temple in Bethesda. Dixie. > >

What reports? >

    • Real secrety ones.

>

All it is is more Mormon horse shit wishful thinking.

Reports have some of the sites described as FEMA Concetration Camps are, in fact, owned by hardline GOP-supporting individuals and companies.


Don Martin wrote: On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:23:04 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Jason wrote:

I still believe that ObamaCare will cost as much as Medicare is presently

costing. It's impossible to provide free medical insurance to over 30

million Americans without it cost billions of dollars per year. >

So they just go to the emergency room, and the taxpayer reimburses the

hospital to the tune of billions of dollars per year.


Along with all of us directly, as the hospital struggles to make up for those

unreimbursed costs: $7 aspirin do not grow on trees but in the bookkeeping

department.


Open your mouth, say, "Ah!" Popsicle stick goes in, comes out, that'll be $75.



Don Martin wrote:

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 02:04:56 -0400, OMAR BLACK <omar@baltimore.nig wrote to

Omar Black:


<snip>


Good for them, keep those sick faggots away from children, I wish more

organizations would grown a backbone.

   How many young boys have been sexually molested

by lesbians, pray tell?

It's interesting how often you bring up 'having sex with young boys'

when the thought had not been raised by anyone else and is not

relevant to the issue being discussed. It's speaks volumes about you.


What other young people are _in_ the BOY Scouts, Brainiac?

Who knows? There's a boy in the girl scouts.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/girl-scouts-allow-7-year-old-boy-join-because-he-living-life-girl


IlBeBauck@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 18, 10:48 pm, "yjk" <yjkbre...@att.net wrote:

--- You don't have a soul. >

<?>---said; "You don't have a soul.

You are a soul. You have a body."


You have a Soul that resides in your temporary body, and, its your

Soul that displays the real you by animating your body via speech,

touch, expressions, and movements.

Who animates that Soul?

And who animates THAT animator?

Don't tell me it's animators all the way down.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:

The Fender Telecaster is the most badass guitar ever made. Only real

men play Telecasters. Wussies can't play them properly.

Wussies need frets. Real musicians play fretless bass.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:

"Jazzy Belle" <fvrnite@yahoo.com wrote in message

news:edb9d802-29e1-4988-989c-e8af45e11385@2g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...

And again Boobie, I repeat myself, Linuxgal is not me.


"Linuxgal" is Mike Lowell of New Haven, CT, aka Colanth and Bidet

Torture, the fox athiest. He/she/it has many socks, and changes them

every couple of months.

I change my socks every day. And my dryer eats them.


Jeanne Douglas wrote:

In article <Jason-2104122340520001@66-53-219-87.lsan.mdsg-

pacwest.com>,

Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

In article <hlwdjsd-FB30C9.11413821042012@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd@NOSPAMpacbell.net wrote:



Oh, yeah, and you failed to answer Mitchell's question. Why do you

always try to change the subject and refuse to answer the questions you

were asked?

They should have to pay about the same percentage as most middle class

people pay.


So you DO support the Buffett Rule. Good for you.

Buffet Rule: Take all you can eat, but eat all you take.


BroilJAB wrote:

Atheists say that they do not believe

God exists. Yet this is an assertion of

a negative, and so can never be proved.

Well you just lay the counter-evidence on the table and we'll see what happens. Meanwhile, if you see me turning blue, that's me holding my breath.


Syd M. wrote: On Apr 22, 10:59 am, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com wrote:

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:57:43 +1000, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

It's typical of atheists who find their beloved Atheist hero's

What part of "I'm not a Communist" went over your pointed little head? >


All of it. He can't make the leap of believing any atheist can't be a

communist.

Even Jtem, Linuxgirl, or Kresh.

Capitalism is the unequal production of wealth. Socialism is the equal distribution of poverty. Communism never vanished with the end of the Cold War, it just moved over here. Liberalism is just Communism without the firing squad.


casey wrote:



I was thinking of the sun going red dwarf at that time.


The sun will never go red dwarf, it has too much mass. It's a yellow G class sun, red dwarfs are class M. The sun will drop off the main sequence and stop converting hydrogen to helium to maintain it's energy.

 It will start baking helium into lithium, beryllium, boron, and carbon 

and such. This will result in the sun ballooning out to become a red giant. After all the light elements are fused into iron, and no more energy can be extracted, the sun will collapse into a white dwarf, and no more energy will be created. It will then cool over many billions of years, and it will be about the diameter of Earth. Eventually it will be a black dwarf.


felix_unger wrote:


I wonder what it would be like to have sex with an atheist woman?

hopefully I will never find out

It would be too much ecstasy for you. Might go into a coma.


Kenny McCormack wrote:

In article <3rudnYjYZayt5Q7SnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:

...

Settled issue. That is precisely what I mean by "unfalsifiable".


So, like:


   2+2 = 4


That's "unfalsifiable", right?


2 plus 2 equals 5 for large values of 2.


2966 Dead wrote: On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 06:15:12 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


2966 Dead wrote: >

Watergate figure Charles Colson has died at 80 > >

Last words, "I am not a clown!"


Now is where Chuckie finds out if god is the morally ambiguous doormat

that Colson needs to get into heaven.

Evangelicals don't roll like that. All a person needs to do is, at some point in their life, cast the magic spell that goes "I hereby accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior" and they spend eternity in heaven. Ted Bundy could have done it in the last minute before he was executed, and he'd be saved. Ma Theresa, after a lifetime of service to the poor in Calcutta, however, will burn forever in hell because she never cast that spell.


MarkA wrote: On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:14:48 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


MarkA wrote: On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:19:43 -0700, linuxgal wrote: > Billy-Bob Thorton wrote: > You appear to hold conservative values along with an unusual > skepticism about religious faith. >> > Please explain. It does not compute.

I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I prefer to address

topics on a case-by-case basis rather than as a set of talking points

from one party or another. If a fellow netizen is otherwise atheist,

but holds to an unfalsifiable belief in anthropogenic global warming,

then I will take them to task as surely as I will go after a young

earther.

Same here. About the fiscally conservative/socially liberal thing. AGW

is, however, a settled issue.

Settled issue. That is precisely what I mean by "unfalsifiable".


"Unfalsifiable" can mean that a theory cannot be disproven in principle,

or it can't be disproven because it is obviously true.

I mean when evidence to the contrary is brought up in a forum, the microphone is shut off.


Tronscend wrote:

"BroilJAB" <DesignDenier@wmconnect.com skrev i melding

news:e5a2dcf8-d5a0-4d70-813a-127f4b89e0a5@fv28g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...

Judging from net postings alone,

no atheist has beyond a 2 digit IQ.


You'd recongize that, I guess...

A lot of geeks say I'm a perfect 10, but of course they never specify what base they are using.


Ramon F. Herrera wrote: On Apr 22, 7:36 am, "james" <jjack...@aol.com wrote:

"Ramon F. Herrera" wrote in message

news:16080f83-1c30-4c4c-a328-101f37e930e4@u7g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

She was referring, of course, to the FIREWALL borders.

http://tinyurl.com/d3hp5bg

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/21/feds-need-more-computer-defe...

-Ramon

Network Security Consultant



The solution is simple - Mac Mini servers.


Experts now agree that "Macs are immune to viruses" is a myth. I can

add this:


It is not Unix's fault!!


The guilty party is the GUI. The bane of Microsoft.

That's why I'm a huge fan of CLI apps.

http://www.cleanposts.com/index.php/Cliapps

"Because I am an 1337 h4x0r and don't want to use anything that you n00bs might be able to understand."


Linda Austin wrote:


A fundie once told me quite seriously that if Adolph Hitler, sometime

before the cyanide took effect, had recognized Jesus as his personal

savior, then he would be saved. WHen I pointed out that Hitler shot

himself as well, the response was, well, you can never tell. He might

have been conscous long enough to be saved. Again, if Mother

Teresa.... well, you know the rest. As for the Jews Hitler killed,

according to my fundie friends if they didn't accept Jesus they were

doomed. So, Hitler could be saved and the Jews are doomed. Praise the

Lord.

It's the same attitude that they take when they roll out Pascal's Wager.

 Don't believe in God out of loyalty or faith, but to cover your bets 

and get out of hell. Like fire insurance.


Don Martin wrote: On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:01:02 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Don Martin wrote:

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 02:04:56 -0400, OMAR BLACK <omar@baltimore.nig wrote to

Omar Black: >

<snip> >

Good for them, keep those sick faggots away from children, I wish more

organizations would grown a backbone. >

   How many young boys have been sexually molested

> by lesbians, pray tell?

It's interesting how often you bring up 'having sex with young boys'

when the thought had not been raised by anyone else and is not

relevant to the issue being discussed. It's speaks volumes about you.

What other young people are _in_ the BOY Scouts, Brainiac?

Who knows? There's a boy in the girl scouts. >

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/girl-scouts-allow-7-year-old-boy-join-because-he-living-life-girl


But apparently not one who defines himself as a boy.

Lincoln once used this teaching aid:

If you call a dog's tail a leg, how many legs does he have? Four legs, because calling a thing something else doesn't make it that other thing.


Robert Parker wrote:


Whenever women have insisted on absolute equality with men, they have

invariably wound up with the dirty end of the stick. What they are and what

they can do makes them superior to men, and their proper tactic is to

demand special privileges, all the traffic will bear. They should never

settle merely for equality. For women "equality" is a disaster.

Robert A Heinlein.

Heinlein had a touch of Venus Envy. In one of his novels he had a millionaire man become a woman, and find out how much better everything was, including sex. Of course this was a pre-menopausal woman...


Free Lunch wrote:

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:00:07 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com>

wrote in alt.atheism: >

I mean when evidence to the contrary is brought up in a forum, the

microphone is shut off.


The AGW deniers offer no scientific evidence.

Ice caps are melting on Mars too. Must be all those little remote control NASA cars running around.


MattB. wrote:

Grassley wants to know if White House aides were connected to

prostitution scandal


White House will claim Executive Privilege. Heh.


The_Echo_Chamber wrote:


Your babbling makes you look insane, dookie. A trait your fellow

RCC'er Robert Winn displayed on a regular basis here - in fact he

admitted to being declared insane by military doctors.

Which means he was not insane. Read Catch-22.


duke wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:46:06 +0000 (UTC), gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:


In article <f719905d-5cd9-4e9b-bc03-1a7b9b48c0e0@r32g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, Ramon F. Herrera <ramon@conexus.net wrote:

...

Incidentally: Are you sure you want to take this discussion into the

realm of languages? I don't think it is wise. How many do you know?

If Duke limited himself to going into problem spaces in which he could

handle himself and not get slaughtered, he wouldn't even be able to have a

conversation with himself.


Gosh, and to think I have yet to be slaughtered.

You get slaughtered on Sacred Scripture every time you hit send.


* US * wrote: On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 06:49:22 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


  • US * wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 16:47:53 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:

... I will vote ...

No, you have a blackbox, not a ballot.

We vote by mail in the Soviet of Washington.


You have the blackbox, not the ballot:


"All votes in Washington are counted electronically."

That sits well with me. My job is electronics repair, and I listen to electronic music.


In a very dark China Blue, China Blue condition. wrote:

In article <x6mdnYBw7aTS2QzSnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@giganews.com>,

linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com

wrote:


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:06:21 -0700, MattB. <trdell1234@gmail.com....... wrote: >

Israel honors 6 million victims of Nazi Holocaust

Reagan honored the SS death camp guards just before flying to Berlin

to take credit for what Europeans did taking down the Soviet Union.

The Soviet Union took itself down, because a centrally planned economy

never works.


The US and England used a centrally planned economy in the Second World War. One

of the things hamperring Germany is it did not switch to a centrally planned

economy until late in the war.


Well, this isn't the TwenCen, we're making iPods now, not 500 pound bombs.


Richard Steel wrote:


Tell me, why were you so outraged that Bush only served seven years in

the National Guard, but you've never mentioned Obama's utter lack of

military service? Why is seven years of service not nearly enough,

while nothing is plenty?


Jane Fonda has more military experience than Obummer.


Issac Bernstein wrote:



The facts and reason requirements preclude most liberals from

progressing. Those traits simply are not in their basic

psychological toolbag.


"I have seen the data...now bring me some I can agree with." -- Liberal


Xavier Onnasis wrote:

linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote in

news:ad6dnd7SFIk5pAnSnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@giganews.com:


MarkA wrote: On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:14:48 -0700, linuxgal wrote: > MarkA wrote: On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:19:43 -0700, linuxgal wrote: >> Billy-Bob Thorton wrote: > You appear to hold conservative values along with an unusual > skepticism about religious faith. >> > Please explain. It does not compute.

I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I prefer to

address topics on a case-by-case basis rather than as a set of

talking points from one party or another. If a fellow netizen

is otherwise atheist, but holds to an unfalsifiable belief in

anthropogenic global warming, then I will take them to task as

surely as I will go after a young earther. > Same here. About the fiscally conservative/socially liberal > thing. AGW is, however, a settled issue.

Settled issue. That is precisely what I mean by "unfalsifiable".

"Unfalsifiable" can mean that a theory cannot be disproven in

principle, or it can't be disproven because it is obviously true.

I mean when evidence to the contrary is brought up in a forum, the

microphone is shut off. >


unlike public policy issues, the forum for deciding scientific

issues is not the ballot box or public opinion polls...instead,

it's the peer-reviewed scientific literature.

Peer-review itself is like religious orthodoxy.

The real forum for deciding scientific issues is a theory that makes accurate predictions of future observations. And the anthropogenic global warming theory fails if there are no people on Mars and the ice caps are melting on Mars too. That points to variations in solar flux as a greater factor than human intervention.


John Manning wrote:



It appears that he's a 'racist' fanatically obsessed psychotic true

believer in the crackpot discredited cult of Scientology.


Well, what race is Xenu?


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:

Jesus Christ is a good value. There is no question of this. Give him 3

hours a week and He will give you eternal life. How can you beat that

deal?

Sounds like one those deals where you give a Nigerian widow your life savings and she gives you $100 million dollars.


Free Lunch wrote:

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 12:22:42 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com>

wrote in alt.atheism:


Free Lunch wrote:

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:00:07 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com>

wrote in alt.atheism: >

I mean when evidence to the contrary is brought up in a forum, the

microphone is shut off.

The AGW deniers offer no scientific evidence.

Ice caps are melting on Mars too. Must be all those little remote

control NASA cars running around.


Way to try to ignore the actual evidence that scientists have been

providing for a century. You are indistinguishable from a science-hating

creationist.

At least I don't say the science is "settled". Scientists hate that.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:



"Uncle Vic" <sorry@noway.com wrote in message

news:XnsA03DAEEC2C3A6sorrynowaycom@216.196.121.131...

"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasmulletstein@isalwaysright.com wrote

in news:jn25oj$t03$1@dont-email.me: >

Jesus Christ is a good value. There is no question of this. Give him

3 hours a week and He will give you eternal life. How can you beat

that deal? > > >

Sounds like a prison sentence to me. No possibility of parole.


No, you're thinking of hell. You'll live eternity either way, so why

not give Jesus a chance.

There is nothing in this universe that shows evidence of eternal existence. Even galaxies collide and die.


Don Kresch wrote:


The AGW "scientists" deliberately--DELIBERATELY--falsified

data. That puts them in the same category of intellectually dishonest

fucks as Kent Hovind.

It's like Dan Rather's "fake but accurate" Alabama Air National Guard report. A big fat lie, but politically useful.


raven1 wrote:


Capitalism is the unequal production of wealth. Socialism is the equal

distribution of poverty. Communism never vanished with the end of the

Cold War, it just moved over here. Liberalism is just Communism

without the firing squad.


You must be a lot of fun at parties.

Married for 22 years, no kids, one big long honeymoon. That's fun enough for me.


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:41:26 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Peer-review itself is like religious orthodoxy.


No.


It makes sure there are no glaring errors, failures to use the

scientific method, etc.


It is just one early stage.


Publication throws it to the wolves to be confirmed or refuted by real

world tests tha aren't part pf the peer review process.

I don't care about what some asshole's opinion of a theory is (and that's what peer-review amounts to). I only care about experiments which actually contradict the theory. I know that's harshing the liberal mellow, but that's how things work.


duke wrote: On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 06:38:19 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: >

The beginning of the end for ritual cannibalism was about 2000 years before the

birth of the Messiah when God stopped Abraham from sacrificing his first born

unblemished son.

Maybe if Abraham told God to fuck off when God ordered him to sacrifice

his first born unblemished son, the end of ritual cannibalism would have

happened a week or two earlier.


Nope. God spoke, and Abraham acted immediately. Abraham didn't have the chinas

to act earlier or he would have.


The LORD was a little troubled, because he was investigating whether or not he should destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, and he debated with himself whether he should hide this thing from Abraham, because it might come across to Abraham as an injustice. For I know him, the LORD thought, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the LORD, to do justice and judgment...

Finally God told Abraham what he intended to do, if the reported wickedness of the cities turned out to be true.

And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?

What follows is an astonishing episode of negotiation, where Abraham dances right up to the edge of God's forbearance. God agrees that if he can find just ten righteous men in Sodom, he will spare the whole city on their account. Abraham was concerned for the safety of his nephew Lot, but this was also a case of man reining in the apparent bloodthirstiness of God. So in a way, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was also a test of Abraham, to see his qualities of "justice and judgment". And it is also a test of the qualities of justice and judgment of the reader, depending on whether they see Abraham or God as the hero of the story.


duke wrote: On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 12:32:05 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


The_Echo_Chamber wrote: >

Your babbling makes you look insane, dookie. A trait your fellow

RCC'er Robert Winn displayed on a regular basis here - in fact he

admitted to being declared insane by military doctors.

Which means he was not insane. Read Catch-22.


That's a movie.

So was To Kill A Mockingbird. I can't wait for the sequel, To Kill A Mockingbird II: Kill Mo' Mockingbird.


duke wrote: On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 09:41:19 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Alan Ferris wrote:

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 06:45:20 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > duke wrote: > On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:12:13 -0700, Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote: >>

Even if it took a few centuries to apologise for their treatment of

Galileo. > Galileo should have kept his mouth closed. Bruno went to the stake. >>

So you disagree with Karol Wojtyla's apology? Do you think the Pope

should have kept HIS mouth shut too?

Duke is constantly disagreeing with what his church teaches. But then

he is a returnee to the faith and clearly does not want to accept all

that it teaches.

I've already probed Duke and discovered that he has a neo-Nestorian

Christology, which would earn him a session with the thumbscrews back in

the Day.


Not a chance of that as the Nestorian view says the human and divine persons of

Christ are separate. In Christianity, Jesus is one with 2 - fully divine and

fully human.

You've already stated that St. Philip only seen the human part of Jesus in order to defend your idle statement that no one has ever seen God. So you are lumped in with the Protties who do the same thing to avoid concluding that Miriam, theotokos, gave birth to Christ's body, soul, and divinity.



duke wrote: On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 06:45:20 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:12:13 -0700, Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote: >

Even if it took a few centuries to apologise for their treatment of

Galileo.

Galileo should have kept his mouth closed. Bruno went to the stake.


So you disagree with Karol Wojtyla's apology? Do you think the Pope

should have kept HIS mouth shut too?


You tell me who he apologized to, and for what, and then we will both know the

truth.

Okay. So I guess a Papal Bull is precisely that.


BroilJAB wrote:

Another poll out today showing that almost no

high school teacher bothers anymore to teach

the antiquated and failed claims of Evolutionism.

Yeah, they've shifted over to the Modern Synthesis these days.


Eat your Peas & Dog wrote:

04/19/12 VOA: Wave of Bombings Hit Iraq


Iraqi officials say a wave of bombings has hit the capital and cities

in the north, killing at least 35 people and wounding more than 100

others.

Who cares, as long as our boys aren't in the middle of that shit.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:


OJ's Case was a clear case of a jury disregarding all evidence and

simply refusing to convict him.

The case proved that racism is a worse charge than murder in the US.


MattB wrote: >

 No I have learned never trust the word of liberals when it comes to

taxes. They will start with those making over a million, Then after

the election come for the rest of the middle class.

If America elects Obummer again after four years of this, we deserve it.


raven1 wrote:

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:32:51 -0700 (PDT), arah <drjanejones@gmail.com> wrote:


Any God that forbids bacon, beer, and bikinis should be rejected with

scorn and derision even if did exist.

Sharia Law contains it's own built-in punishment for precisely that reason.


Jason wrote:


I believe that one Christian researcher guessed 5000 years ago--is that a

good guess?


I've got it down as 4,163 BCE, and there's no wiggle room.

http://75.147.177.4/index.php/Age





David Fritzinger wrote:


Why do you lie so often. All Rosen said is that Romney will not learn

about women's issues talking to his wife, because she is rich, and has

been rich her whole life.

Hey, maybe he can learn them reading the Book of Mormon!

By the time you get a quarter of the way through the Book of Mormon, you have been given the name of only one woman, Sariah, the mother of Nephi.

Science fiction author Orson Scott Card (himself a Mormon) says:

"…women are virtually absent from the Book of Mormon. When they do manage to show up, they are rarely named. There are only three women who are actually of the culture of the Book of Mormon who are given names. One is Sariah, the mother of Nephi. Another is a harlot named Isabel, and the third is a servant woman named Abish. None of the queens who show up in the story are mentioned by name. None of these writers ever mentions his own wife, and when women do show up in a specific role they're still almost never named. Nephi did not even bother to mention the name of the woman who saved his life by pleading for him in the desert."

Aside from these three women, only Mary the mother of Jesus, Eve, and Sarah the wife of Abraham are mentioned by name in the entire Book of Mormon.


2966 Dead wrote:

http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/312-16/11081-arctic-methane-

leaks-threaten-climate


Arctic Methane Leaks Threaten Climate

The only threat to the climate is from all you greenie weenies farting around.


MarkA wrote: On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:00:07 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


MarkA wrote: On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:14:48 -0700, linuxgal wrote: > MarkA wrote: > AGW is, however, a settled issue.

Settled issue. That is precisely what I mean by "unfalsifiable".

"Unfalsifiable" can mean that a theory cannot be disproven in principle,

or it can't be disproven because it is obviously true.

I mean when evidence to the contrary is brought up in a forum, the

microphone is shut off.


That is censorship, not unfalsifiability.

That's slapping your palms to your ears and going, "La la la la! I can't hear you!" And it's no different from what the creationists do.


thomas p. wrote:


In Judges 11:34 (long after the supposed time of Abraham) a father

sacrifices his daughter to God.

In other words human sacrifice was still being practiced after the time of

Moses.

Yes indeed, and Jephthah the Gileadite was a fricken judge, for crimony's sake. But the really creepy thing was his daughter went along with it, after only two months of outdoor lesbian sex.

...she said to her father, “Let this thing be done for me: leave me alone two months, that I may go up and down on the mountains and weep for my virginity, I and my companions.” So he said, “Go.” Then he sent her away for two months, and she departed, she and her companions, and wept for her virginity on the mountains. And at the end of two months, she returned to her father, who did with her according to his vow that he had made.


* US * wrote: On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 12:42:45 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


  • US * wrote:

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 06:49:22 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:

  • US * wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 16:47:53 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:

... I will vote ... > No, you have a blackbox, not a ballot.

We vote by mail in the Soviet of Washington.

You have the blackbox, not the ballot: >

"All votes in Washington are counted electronically." >

http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/board-auth.cgi?file=/8/81959.html

That sits well with me. My job is electronics repair, and I listen to

electronic music.


Without a vote you're merely a slave.


Why do you believe that unknown programmers

should do your 'voting' for you?

The Soviet of Washington is a one party Blue State. I'm writing Ron Paul on the ballot, but Washington will carry the Democratic ticket as surely as Grammy Award Winners Milli Vanilli feted Obama in the White House ceremony marking his acceptance of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.


duke wrote: On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:29:00 -0700 (PDT), zaxo_4@yahoo.com wrote:


Twelve Proofs that Muhammad is a True Prophet


Jesus is the Son of God.

"Religion - a daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the Nature of the Unknowable." - Ambrose Bierce


duke wrote: On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 06:33:47 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


duke wrote: On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 06:21:21 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: > duke wrote: > My cup runneth over with truth.

My killfile runneth over with trolls.

Not good. You are a fiscally conservative, socially liberal poster who should

be willing to listen to others. To killfile is to admit that you can't stand up

to discussion with those you disagree with.

There's no discussion with people who say AGW is "settled science" or

who say "God said it, I believe it, end of topic".


Are you trying to confirm that you killfile if you can't establish your beliefs

re God as the correct view?

"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city." -- Master Je Tzu


duke wrote:


2. S&G didn't believe God when he said "no queer sex".

But he didn't say "no queer sex" until 600 years later at Mt. Sinai.


duke wrote:


Then why are some glaciers starting to grow now?


It sucks, Duke. Why, back in July 2010 I went hiking at Glacier National Park with my husband and I could barely find the trail because of all the, you know, glaciers.

http://75.147.177.4/index.php/Glacier


duke wrote:

On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:24:01 -0700, "Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess" <goddess@fidemturbare.com wrote:


There are many homosexual people (I suspect far more than half) who do

not engage in anal penetration at all.


Girl on girl.


I'm sure you've done all the pertinent research.


Obama's Sauteed Dog Meat Dinner wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17788178


April 2012 Last updated at 00:41 GMT Share this pageEmail Print Share

this page


US introduces $60 LED light bulb

I'm seeing them for $20 at Fred Meyer up here in the Great Northwest.


Davej wrote: On Apr 23, 2:55 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com wrote: On Apr 23, 12:43 pm, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br wrote: >

The World's Top 7 Military Spenders in 2010

Who cares?


Uh, the Republicans are crying that a vast number of social programs

need to be cut in order to get the US deficit under control -- but

they don't want to cut defense spending.

Israeli arms exports reach $7.2 billion, making Israel one of the world's top four military exporters. Some of these shipments are to China. But Democraps AND Repugnicans refuse to cut military welfare to our Special Friend because of all the money AIPAC throws around on K Street.


SkyEyes wrote: On Apr 24, 12:45 am, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com wrote:

From pg. 14 of Reason to Affirm a Global

Flood by Humber. There are many links to

the subject matter, but I will stick to one given

example. >

What could possibly have moved these rocks

300-600 miles almost over

level ground (less than a 1degree slope)?


Glaciers. Happens all the damn time.

They're called erratics. There's one about the size of a two car garage why up on a hillside in the suburbs of Seattle, came down from Canada courtesy of the Vashon Ice Lobe 13,000 years ago.


Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net) wrote:


The ones who think that if a Republican solves those problems, their

husbands will make lots more money, allowing them to stay home, raise

a bunch of kids, and earn God's true favor (or at the least the ONLY

favor He offers females)..

I kind of got a clue from St. Paul when he wrote:

1 Timothy 2:


Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net) wrote:

>

The ones who think that if a Republican solves those problems, their

husbands will make lots more money, allowing them to stay home, raise

a bunch of kids, and earn God's true favor (or at the least the ONLY

favor He offers females)..

I kind of got a clue when St. Paul wrote:

1 Timothy 2:

[14] And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

[15] Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.


Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:



"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net wrote in message

news:80hcp7p97ofcljqismr1vpvj8hi9o0l1do@4ax.com...

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 18:34:17 -0700 (PDT), Waldo Tunnel <waldotunnel@gmail.com wrote: > On Apr 23, 3:14 pm, ThomMadura <Tommad...@optonline.net wrote: On 4/23/2012 3:14 PM, duke wrote: > >

This "Duke" guy is gay. Right? > >

70 years old, never married, no kids. Do the math. <G>


Maybe he's asexual. He seems to care about nothing but the Catholic

Church and fishing for crawdads.

Inquiring minds don't care.


Dänk 42Ø wrote:

>

Genghis Khan was Asian, and like all non-white ethnic minorities, he

would be the property of the liberal Democrat Party.

Except when it comes to preferences for college admissions, then Asians are whiter'n Glenn Beck stepping out of a week-long horror movie marathon.



Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:

Sofw sowows erwpowg gowdowl wjo snwovl pfloirnt nrfhjw. Pxjewow ckwoen

wnwols slepwp bn. Wsoswp jepow psonrt powiwn, slwje wkwpos spowj spwj t

wwjp! Qolwo soseolw lwon mnspow. Alswpo wpo slwon nsokle slmle.

Most sense a theist has made in a.a. in a long time.


Father Haskell wrote: On Apr 23, 3:23 pm, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com wrote:

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:32:51 -0700 (PDT), arah <drjanejo...@gmail.com> wrote: >

Any God that forbids bacon, beer, and bikinis should be rejected with

scorn and derision even if did exist. >

Homemade bacon:http://www.youtube.com/user/tdjtx?v=VHgmj-HQ2GE&feature=pyv >

Homebrewing your own all-grain beer:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIGrsGPVA_Y >

The glories of the female body:http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/swimsuit/


Bacon AND bikinis:


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.asylum.com/media/2010/11/bacon-bikini-contest.jpg

That's pretty dang efficient. Now just spray some beer all over them.


Olrik wrote:

Le 2012-04-24 23:17, Abd AlWahab Abd Allah a écrit :

hi, >

Quran and Logic


... does not compute.

The sun does NOT set in a mud puddle far in the west. Sorry Mo fans.


Davej wrote: On Apr 24, 2:51 am, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com wrote:

[...]


More jibbering.


Why doesn't the fable of Noah mention all those big dinosaurs?

As late as the 17th Century, they dug up dinosaur bones in Europe and concluded they belonged to the Nephilim of Genesis 6:4. It wasn't until the 19th Century that dinosaurs as such were written up in a scientific journal. The fable of Noah was written in the 6th Century BCE by Jewish priests in exile in Babylon who read the 11th Tablet of the Gilgamesh Epic and read it back into their own scriptures.


hhyapster@gmail.com wrote:


In the capitalism world, lack of money is a big problem if you are in business.

You can't grow, can invest, and can't survive too.

Lack a money is a big problem in the third world. Lack of money is a big problem in my household. I can't think of any situation where the lack of money is no problem.


trainguard wrote:



Not that it matters, but I'm heterosexual. Steve has convinced himself

that I'm gay...but his 'gaydar' wouldn't get him very far in real

life.

Senator Larry "Wide Stance" Craig once held a press conference where firmly stated he was not gay and never has been gay. And I was all, like, this is the 21st Century, what a waste of time telling us about his sexual preferences.


Steve wrote: >

Rachel Maddow, huh? Say, I think I've heard of her.. isn't she on

the TV show that pulls in somewhere under a third of O'Reilly's

audience?

She's just Olbermann for the Lilith Fair set.


NoBody wrote:


What's the difference? You've blamed the Republicans for legislation

Dems passed and you've blamed Republicans for legislation Republicans

passed.

That makes the Libertarians come out smelling like roses.


BroilJAB wrote:

Obama frantic for votes is claiming that 'Mitt

was born with a silver spoon'. Laughing Mitt

quipped: Obama was born with a Cocker

Spaniel's bone in his mouth.

How many Obama jokes are there? Three. The rest are facts.



Mitchell Holman wrote:



  Then maybe it is time to address the need to 

have over 1000 military bases scattered all over

the world.


Relocate them in a continuous belt from Sand Dog to El Paso, with three hundred yards of desert between each one, which the soldiers can patrol every evening with night-vision goggles.


hypatiab7 wrote:


The black child in the Little Rascals films. The boys all had

nicknames like Spanky, Alfalfa and Buckwheat. Duke (Earl Weber

of Baton Rouge, LA) calls President Obama by the black character's

name because Earl is a racist bigot.

Well, when he gets to heaven and finds out Jesus Christ is half black because his mother was an Ethiopian Jew, Duke better hope he never slips and accidentally calls his Lord and Savior "Buckwheat".


Mitchell Holman wrote:


    Wrong. If Costa Rica and Malta and Grenada

and Canada can afford medical care for all their

citizens why can't the US?

The citizens of all those countries would fit into the audience of Dr. Phil's show, except they're quieter.


RichTravsky wrote: "MattB." wrote:

Videos asserting Israel’s right to attack Iran go viral > >


Israel has no long distance attack capability.


Sure they do. They just pull the golden rope, and the President comes up to Bibi's bath, and Bibi says, "We need a wing of B-2s to drop some JDAMs on Iran. See to it, Sambo."


Richo wrote: On Apr 23, 11:17 am, US4ZION <us4z...@gmail.com wrote:

The end goal of any process of abiogenesis results in the appearance

of the first form of primitive life here on earth. Scientists often

describe this primitive self sustaining life form as something similar

to a bacterium or archeobacterium. But whatever shape or form this

self replicating life took, it is clearly the end of a process that

turned non-living matter into a sustainable life form. And evolution

claims that all life on earth (all the diversity of life forms) begins

with a common ancestor


Yes.


The bible on the other hand says that Life was made from non life by

God saying magic words.

Which makes me wonder how the living God was made from non-life.


Jason wrote:


The real reason--we don't have a time machine. If we did, we could go back

in time to the beginning of Noah's Flood and write down the date.

There was no Noah's Flood. It was a story of fiction the Babylonians had, called the Gilgamesh epic. It was just like Beowulf, or King Arthur, or the Silmarillion. Then the Jews were taken to Babylon in exile. They read the clay tablets, and incorporated the story into their own mythology, in an act of pure plagiarism.


Jason wrote:


Someone employed by ICR that has a PH.d. degree believes Noah's Flood was

the cause of the massive ice age.

PhD: Plow Heads into Dogma


Joe Cool wrote:

On Apr 25, 4:25 pm, "Obama's Sauteed Dog Meat Dinners" <Dog Meat : It's Whats for Obama's Dinner @ White House.org wrote:

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/04/25/family-misses-flight-after-... >

Family Misses Flight After TSA Gives Pat-Down To Girl With Cerebral Palsy


Just what in the flying fuck makes these guys "Obama thugs", you

pathetic clueless babbling fucking asshole moron?

TSA is executive branch.


Slackfest wrote:


Steve, stop pretending that you're the victim. We both know that

for all your 'bluster and spit', you're actually terrified by

liberals and what they stand for (eg progressive issues)..

Liberalism: "You earn it; we spend it; borrow the rest from China, send the bill to your grandchildren. Any questions?"


raven1 wrote:


Many people think the latter. And some say that Paul was likely a

repressed homosexual. But predictably, you ignore the main point that

many Christians seem to feel that it is part of their faith to condemn

homosexuals. Discuss in context, please.

Everything Jesus said about homosexuality--- []


Al wrote:

In article <CBBC9364.8628B%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,

George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com

wrote:


So a guy complains to kids about being too loud and the kids have their

parents beat the shit out of him. THAT'S justice for ya!!! >

BTW: Where the hell is the LameStream Media on this one? >

<http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/04/24/Œthat¹s-justice-for-trayvon¹-bloodthirs

ty-mob-severely-beat-white-man/>


Dog bites man.

Yeah, I like the other way around, the stories where Obama bites dog.


Möebius Pretzel wrote:

Drones to patrol US protests

Saves taxpayer money. Black helicopters eat a lot more aircraft fuel.


MattB wrote:


  So you think Latinos will vote because of race alone?  The Martin

trial has shown that Liberals hate Litinos as if they were white. The

Black liberals put a $10,000 bounty on a latino.

Florida Latinos are mostly Cubans, they vote straight "R", so the libs throw them under the bus.


Obama's Sauteed Dog Meat Dinners wrote:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425



REPORT: Zimmerman 'has black roots'...

So does Madonna and Lady Gaga.


Matt wrote:


Nice to see the Gestapo have taken over the court.

GESTAPO: Government Enforcement Streamlined To Assist President Obama



Smiler wrote:



Yet, when he supposedly came to earth as his own son, he never had sex

with any woman, never married and hung around with 12 other guys. How gay

is that?


Not to mention knowing all the words to Jesus Christ, Superstar.


MarkA wrote:


The most efficiently run hospital system in the USA is the VA Hospital

system. It works so well because it is *COMPLETELY SOCIALIZED*.


Old soldiers never die...thanks to ObamaCare there won't be any old soldiers.


Steve wrote:


Yes it is... Sorry, I guess I forgot I was talking to uneducated

fools.. It's a term that nicely describes the phrase: "people who

live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

People who live in glass houses should ball in the basement.


duke wrote:



Saul was a Jew. Paul is a Christian and Apostle of Jesus Christ. In fact, we

call him the first convert form the Jews..

Paul called himself a Jew. Who cares what you call him?

Acts 21:39 But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew of Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city: and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak unto the people.


...a state that I didn't even know had emissions standards.



Matt wrote: On Apr 25, 7:03 pm, "DogDiesel" <nos...@nospam.none wrote:

"In a very dark China Blue, China Blue condition." <chine.b...@yahoo.com>

wrote in messagenews:chine.bleu-03486E.17464325042012@news.x-privat.org... >

In article <wOKdnabbJJPLCQXSnZ2dnUVZ_rCdn...@giganews.com>, David Hartung <da...@hotmaiil.com wrote:

Please quote the portion which allows an office to check papers on a

whim.

The 14th amendment requires the law apply equally to all people.

No it doesnt. The 14th ammendment applies to blacks only. And slaves.


ROFLMAO. This one, boys and girls, is a KEEPER.

How can the 14th Amendment apply to slaves when the 13th Amendment abolishes slavery? No, really.


Matt wrote: On Apr 25, 12:38 pm, MattB <trdell1...@Nomorespamgmail.com wrote:

Supreme Court signals support for Arizona immigration law provision >

Read more:http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/25/arizona-immigration-law-ba... >

The Supreme Court signaled Wednesday that it might uphold a key

element of Arizona's immigration law, as justices across the board

suggested the state has a serious problem on its hands and should have

some level of sovereignty to address illegal immigration. >

The justices appeared ready to allow a provision requiring police

officers to check the immigration status of people they think are in

the U.S. illegally.


"Give us your papers, comrade".

Under Obamacare you have to show your medical insurance papers. What's the difference?


Phlip wrote: On Apr 25, 10:12 am, 2966 Dead <d...@gone.com wrote:

Obama Stunner: Climate Change Will Be A Campaign Issue, We Need to Do

Much More To Combat It


Translation: Anyone stupid enough to deny global warming is also

stupid enough to vote Republican (and watch Fox News, and blame the

poor for the economy, and ... etc.)

They said the same thing about heliocentricism. And Google phlogiston while you're at it.


duke wrote: On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 05:40:44 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:


• at least, The alpha male Catholic of Ireland was partaking of

altar-boy butt.


I can't address other countries.

I thought Romanism was a global Church, not a collection of state churches like the EOs.



duke wrote:


Celibacy is arbitrary but desirable in the bible, gobbler.


1 Timothy 4:

[1] Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

[2] Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

[3] *Forbidding to marry*, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.


Brian E. Clark wrote:


I should qualify my earlier statement by saying that some

of the *early* Disney productions were quite creative, some

of them artistically remarkable.


Fantasia, 1940, wow.


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:10:30 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy.ferrit@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


"+ I'm thinkin about marrying my daughter on a cruise ship"

- P Barker 1Oct2003


I know a priest who married his sister. Her daughter sometimes calls

him Uncle and sometimes Father.

Abraham married his half-sister, and his son Isaac married his cousin, so I guess Rebecca could call Abraham "Uncle Dad".


Matt wrote: On Apr 25, 7:59 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Matt wrote: On Apr 25, 12:38 pm, MattB <trdell1...@Nomorespamgmail.com wrote:

The justices appeared ready to allow a provision requiring police

officers to check the immigration status of people they think are in

the U.S. illegally.

"Give us your papers, comrade".

Under Obamacare you have to show your medical insurance papers. What's

the difference?


Honestly, did that even make sense when you typed it? >

I'll betcha the fine for not getting proof of health insurance is higher than the fine for being in the country illegally.


Lamont Cranston wrote:



Since Bush was on vacation 1/3 of the time that he was in office, it is

highly unlikely that Obama has spent more.

Would that Obama spent 1/3 of the time on vacation. The more the merrier. He got a Nobel Peace Prize for literally doing nothing, and I'm all for giving him more.


Richard Steel wrote:

‘Young Turk’ to ‘sexist’ Fox News host: ‘F*ck you!’

By David Edwards

Wednesday, April 25, 2012 9:30 EDT


A Fox News host who joked that women have all the rights the need because

they can shop got a two-word response from The Young Turks co-host Ana

Kasparian on Tuesday: “Fuck you!”


Apparently, the Democrats, the party that has made a career of

insulting anyone who disagrees with them, CAN'T TAKE A JOKE.


When liberals in Congress make a joke it's a law. And when they make a law it's a joke.


thomas p. wrote:



And the most effective recruiting tool for the Mormons is the Book of Mormon

revealed by an angel. Both stories are equally true.

When the last of the Nephites passed away, the Lamanites reigned victorious throughout the Western Hemisphere. Their descendants are found today as the native American community. Except that the Jews (thus Lamanites) were Caucasoid, while the original Americans are Mongoloid, originating in the steppes of east Asia and migrating here over a land bridge between Siberia and Alaska in 9,000 BC.


Another Socialist Attack wrote:

http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/local/firefighters-prayer-

center-of-religious-debate-20120424


WOONSOCKET, R.I. (FOX 25) - “The Firefighter’s Prayer” is a

creed dear to firefighters all over the United States; however,

that prayer and a monument in Woonsocket, R.I. are under fire...

Well, if the fire fighters are any good they should be able to handle that.


Dino wrote:


What is a *TRUE* homosexual?

Do they have marks? Is there a sign? Is there some type of

initiation?

Are you a member?

What exactly is a *TRUE* homosexual???

A fag is a homosexual man who has just left the room.


Mitchell Holman wrote:

Jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in

news:Jason-2504121710330001@67-150-126-160.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:


In article

<dfritzin-31B166.07141324042012@news.eternal-september.org>, David

Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospamtome.hotmail.com wrote: >

BTW, did you ever find out about Bishop Ussher?

I don't have time to do it today. I was told that Ken Ham believes

Noah's Flood happened 2348 BC. He is the person built a famous

creation museum that has been visited by thousands of people.



   Are you aware there are living trees that are

even older than that? >

Yes, and using dendrochronology, matching patterns of thin and fat tree rings across individual trees, there is a complete audit trail back 9,900 years.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 04:12:46 -0700 linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: hypatiab7 wrote: >

The black child in the Little Rascals films. The boys all had

nicknames like Spanky, Alfalfa and Buckwheat. Duke (Earl Weber

of Baton Rouge, LA) calls President Obama by the black character's

name because Earl is a racist bigot.

Well, when he gets to heaven and finds out Jesus Christ is half black

because his mother was an Ethiopian Jew, Duke better hope he never

slips and accidentally calls his Lord and Savior "Buckwheat".


From what I've heard, Jesus always forgives.


That's what I hear too, but I've never seen one of his followers do that.


Robert Parker wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 02:10:37 -0400, Chase N. Sanborn <cns@arabic.bin> wrote: >

Your brain is too AIDS addled to see that the goal is to eliminate

homosexuality. Many who wish to remain anonymous are now

working to bring that about. >

Like trying to empty the ocean with a couple of 2 gallon buckets. Or

eliminating left-handed.

A Southpaw is a person with the "desire or behavior of preferring the use of the left hand". Left-handedness has a number of causal factors that influence its ultimate origination in individuals, as well as a variety of effects on society at large.

The word "sinister" is from the Latin for left, reflecting its evil connotations. It is perhaps no coincidence that the socialists of the Democratic Party refer to themselves as the Left.

In China the phrase "left path" stands for illegal or immoral means. Although 13% of human beings openly choose the tragic Southpaw lifestyle, many left-handed people remain in the closet in Muslim countries due to the stigma associated with it there. Traditionally, among desert nomads, the right hand was reserved for eating, while the left hand was used exclusively to wipe bottoms. This could account for the 53% correlation reported by the American Medican Association between Southpaws and victims of anal cancer.

As late as the 20th Century there were "ex-Southpaw" ministries which used aversion therapy to condition left-handed people away from their tragic and filthy lifestyle choice. The high recidivism rate of left-handedness can be laid at the door of the all-pervasive demonic influence in the world. The only permanent solution is for Southpaws to renounce their former lifestyle and accept the Lord Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior.

Prayer to receive him now:

"Jesus, I believe You are the Son of God and the Savior of the world. Thank you for coming to Earth and dying so that I could have eternal life. Please forgive all my sins. I am going to follow You with my life now. Please fill me with Your Holy Spirit and direct my steps. In Jesus' name, Amen."


trotsky wrote: On 4/25/12 6:03 AM, linuxgal wrote: BroilJAB wrote:

Obama frantic for votes is claiming that 'Mitt

was born with a silver spoon'. Laughing Mitt

quipped: Obama was born with a Cocker

Spaniel's bone in his mouth. >

How many Obama jokes are there? Three. The rest are facts.


More proof that "right wing humor" is a bigger oxymoron than "rap music".


What do you call 50 liberal politicians and 50 lesbians in the same room?

One hundred people who don't do dick.


mr_antone wrote:

On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:11:41 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net wrote:


By the way, most of the actual atheists in a.a know who I am. My

name is Michelle Malkin. I've been posting in alt.atheism for 17

years and in AlterNet for over one year. People also know me by

my nickname Mickey. No I am not the idiot 'journalist'. Now let's

see if you have the guts to post your real name.


Nice to meet you, Michelle.


Also known as She Who Declined To Assign Teresita Her Atheist Number.


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:15:48 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Brian E. Clark wrote: >

I should qualify my earlier statement by saying that some

of the *early* Disney productions were quite creative, some

of them artistically remarkable.

Fantasia, 1940, wow.


That was the first time I heard Mussorgsky's Night The Bare Mountain

called "...Bald Mountain", which was ridiculous.


But that was the era of extreme American prudishness.

That's funny, because there's a Whiskey Dick Mountain just north of Yakima, WA.


raven1 wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:14:48 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


MarkA wrote: >

Same here. About the fiscally conservative/socially liberal thing. AGW

is, however, a settled issue.

Settled issue. That is precisely what I mean by "unfalsifiable".


How do you feel about evolution?

It doesn't matter how I feel about anything, or even what I think about something. What matters is if a proposed model corresponds to reality.


Free Lunch wrote:


Randroids don't seem to understand that there is no property without

government. Property does not exist unless there is common assent to the

concept and an enforcement mechanism. That is why anarchists said that

property is theft.

My house is guarded by shotgun three nights a week. You guess which three.


US4ZION wrote:

The end goal of any process of abiogenesis results in the appearance

of the first form of primitive life here on earth.

Goal. LOL.


Jason wrote:


I don't like it when liberal democrats choose as a target a stay-at-home

mom that has a serious disease. What's next? Are they going to start

saying negative things about their dogs or cats?

Obama only has glowing things to say about dogs.


BroilJAB wrote:

The 2 strongest Punishers of leftists

this century were Sen.McCarthy

and Sen Dick Nixon. They will be whining

and trying to demonize Dick Nixon for the

next 200 years. I say we deport all the

bastards back to Russia and the leftie

nigs along with them.

You forgot J. Edgar Hoover, who cavorted in ladies' clothing even while compiling dossiers on other people's sexual peccadillos.


Mike Duffy wrote:

Father Haskell <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com wrote in news:c0bef58d-fdc7-4b1b-

9747-aa8c81e46bba@l3g2000vbv.googlegroups.com:


The LIARS! Everyone KNOWS he fucked goats.


Read the book! It clearly says he CAME into town riding a donkey.


A donkey and a colt at the same time. No wonder they thought he was the son of God. He was at the very least the ultimate Democrat.

"Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass."


Mitchell Holman wrote:



 So explain why the lowest point the in US- Death Valley - has

NO mud or marine fossils left over from this "worldwide" flood.


Because Satan made some of his demonds clean it out to fool people into denying Jesus as their Savior.


Waldo Tunnel wrote: On Apr 21, 6:34 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net wrote: >

God helps those that help themselves.


What verse of the Bible are you quoting?

It's true. Catholic priests help themselves to boy butt sex, and God has a whole organization mobilized to defend them in court.


Tronscend wrote:

"BroilJAB" <DesignDenier@wmconnect.com skrev i melding

news:614fc831-8af5-46f9-a52e-dea5339ada9f@fv28g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...

The 2 strongest Punishers of leftists

this century were Sen.McCarthy

and Sen Dick Nixon.


The Prez who made friends with Mao, you mean?


The Prez who brought us 55 MPH and price controls for gasoline.


Jeanne Douglas wrote:



And Obama paid a much higher percentage in income tax than did Romney.


Obama has money. Nazi Pelosi has money. Unfortunately, they have MY money.


hhyapster@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, April 23, 2012 8:16:29 AM UTC+8, Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:

"Uncle Vic" <sorry@noway.com wrote in message

news:XnsA03DAEEC2C3A6sorrynowaycom@216.196.121.131...

"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasmulletstein@isalwaysright.com wrote

in news:jn25oj$t03$1@dont-email.me: >

Jesus Christ is a good value. There is no question of this. Give him

3 hours a week and He will give you eternal life. How can you beat

that deal? > >

Sounds like a prison sentence to me. No possibility of parole.

No, you're thinking of hell. You'll live eternity either way, so why not

give Jesus a chance.


You may wish to live for eternity, but man are not made to do so.

Not even galaxies live for eternity.


* US * wrote: On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:03:48 -0400, Mr.B1ack <b>w@barrk.net wrote:


 If it's 'pregnant chads' then
 it's not an election. 


The issue with the blackbox remains.


If it's electronic, it's no election.

WP:

The Luddites were a social movement of 19th-century English textile artisans who protested – often by destroying mechanized looms – against the changes produced by the Industrial Revolution, that replaced them with less skilled, low wage labor, and which they felt were leaving them without work and changing their way of life. Eric Hobsbawm called machine wrecking: "collective bargaining by riot"


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:58:15 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Liberalism: "You earn it; we spend it; borrow the rest from China, send

the bill to your grandchildren. Any questions?"


Yes.


Who caused the disaster that made us have to borrow?

Cowardice. The unborn have to pay someday, but they can't vote for the opponent in retaliation because they don't even exist.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:55:35 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Just what in the flying fuck makes these guys "Obama thugs", you

pathetic clueless babbling fucking asshole moron?

TSA is executive branch.


Started by....??

Ernest Hollings (D-South Carolina)


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:20:07 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Matt wrote: >

Nice to see the Gestapo have taken over the court.

GESTAPO: Government Enforcement Streamlined To Assist President Obama


Isn't your whine that government Is NOT doing anything?

I'm an anarcho-capitalist Taoist with an objectivist bent, my preference is the government do nothing.


duke wrote:



Ok, finally you answer. We also know that the early 80's was the smashing

defeat of the pedophiles in the Church. The massive house cleaning was fully

underway.


Sure, that's why Andrew Greeley calls 2002 the Year of the Pedophile, while priests in Germany and Ireland shook their head at the US and went "tsk tsk, it's an American problem".


Doc Smartass wrote:

J <jdyoung1@ymail.com wrote in news:5iv7lu.uuf.17.1@news.alt.net:


Subject: Study: Gays can change sexual orientation


Even if that were true, they shouldn't have to.


Watch the film "But I'm A Cheerleader" to see how well that works out.


Jason wrote:


I learned something from that google search. It clearly showed that marine

fossils have been found in the Death Valley area.

Oh my God. You're a genius, Jason! Think of all the money that could be saved if researchers simply used Google rather than going out into the field collecting actual fossils.


Davej wrote: On Apr 23, 2:55 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com wrote: On Apr 23, 12:43 pm, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br wrote: >

The World's Top 7 Military Spenders in 2010

Who cares?


Uh, the Republicans are crying that a vast number of social programs

need to be cut in order to get the US deficit under control -- but

they don't want to cut defense spending.

Defense spending IS a social program, in the Bible Belt, where all the contractors are located.


John Baker wrote:


If Obama advised against drinking battery acid, there'd be ten million

fewer Republicans by the end of the week.


Why do libtards stare for hours at orange juice cartons?

They say, "Concentrate"


Jason wrote:

In article <uirgil-A7C16A.23215423042012@bignews.usenetmonster.com>, Uirgil <uirgil@uirgil.ur wrote:


In article

<7cd96446-9d26-46f6-a816-2fb057c0c092@35g2000yqq.googlegroups.com>,

BroilJAB <DesignDenier@wmconnect.com

wrote: >

Atheism makes no claims of fact other than that there is absolutely no

objective physical evidence supporting any claim of godly existence.


On the day that you die--you will see lots of evidence of godly existence.


Will you be ready--see John 3:16

What do you mean ready? Are you preaching a gospel of salvation by works of readiness?



Richo wrote: On Apr 24, 1:37 pm, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com wrote:

No one today doubts that Obama was born in Kenya.


That is nonsense. He was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.

There was evidence that he was not, but it was destroyed in the controlled demolition of the WTC by Elvis and JFK in the UFO.


Obama's Sauteed Dog Meat Dinners wrote:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_FARM_LABOR?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-04-26-19-44-56



WASHINGTON (AP) -- Under heavy pressure from farm groups, Obama is

dropping an effort to prevent children from doing hazardous work on

farms owned by anyone other than their parents.


But on the parent's farms it's anything goes. They'll get in there with the hogs like Dorothy.


Obama's Sauteed Dog Meat Dinners wrote:


You mean Republicans controlled the Hopuse & senate from 2007 to 2011

and the White House from 2009 to now ? geee, nasty Piglosi would be

shocked to learn that! She thought SHE was Speaker those years.

Happiness is Nazi Pelosi's bug-eyed botoxed mug on a milk carton.


Möebius Pretzel wrote:

Fukushima Is Falling Apart: Are You Ready … For A Mass Extinction Event?

Radiation is good for ya. Puts hair on your chest. And that's just the womenfolk.


Bret Cahill wrote:

5 New Lies That The Federal Reserve Is Telling The American People >

The Federal Reserve says that everything is going to be okay. >

The Fed says that unemployment is going to go down, inflation is going

to remain low and economic growth is going to steadily increase. >

Do you believe them this time?


Not w/o tax hikes on the rich.


Turbo Tax Ted Geithner says there's a fiscal cliff the country is about to plunge over if Congress doesn't act before January 1, 2013. He's talking, of course, about the Obama Tax Increases.


Al wrote:

In article <cijhp71edipio261em9k5l3822fhoonkge@4ax.com>,

Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:


On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:06:56 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: >

Yeah, I like the other way around, the stories where Obama bites dog.

You can see and read all that with your nose is whichever rightwing

asshole is handy?


Do you think Obama was actually fed dog by a Muslim?

Good thing he never had some pepperoni, Allah mightn't like that.


David Hartung wrote:


Consider this, the border between the USA and Mexico is about 1900 miles

long. The border between the USA and Canada is about 5500 miles long,

add in over 12,000 miles of coastline and we have a total border to seal

of over 19,000 miles. Just how do you propose to seal this border?

Relocate the 700 overseas US bases to our border.


4HEAD wrote: On 4/26/2012 6:05 PM, HVAC wrote: On 4/26/2012 4:45 PM, 4HEAD wrote: > > > >

They believe in the same god that you do. > >

Hmmm...I don't recall professing my faith in any God/religion.

But if you think the God of the Bible is the same God of the Koran,

I would very much disagree with you.

4HEAD > >

Jews, Christians, and Muslims all believe in the god of Abraham. > >

That's a common myth.

Jews and Muslims do not believe the God of Abraham has a Son.


On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:48:20 -0700 (PDT), "jwsheffield@satx.rr.com" <jwsheffield@satx.rr.com wrote:


 Don't mess with, Popeye.

Pope goes to Mount Olive, Popeye vows revenge.


Jeanne Douglas wrote:


Explain how hundreds of billions of galaxies, each with hundreds of

billions of stars, was created solely to have life on one

insignificant planet orbiting one insignificant star in the

hinterlands of one insignificant galaxy.

Actually, you want to be out here in the "hinterlands", in the core you got too many supernovae, gamma rays, not good for DNA.


David Fritzinger wrote:


Of course, the ones who get their news from Fox and Limbaugh are, by

definition, not intelligent, since both sources lie.

But Err America was just SO trustworthy people couldn't stand it and they had to go off the air.


Ben Kaufman wrote:

Egyptian husbands will soon be legally allowed to have sex with their dead wives

- for up to six hours after their death.

The controversial new law is part of a raft of measures being introduced by the

Islamist-dominated parliament.

When Egyptians say they' re dropping in for a cold one that's very different from your Superbowl buddies.


MarkA wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:26:22 -0500, Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:


http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/s474/zachariasmulletstein/pantera.png >

Doesn't he look fierce and cruel? He will destroy anyone who tries to

harm me. He's my best friend, other than Jesus Christ.


Nice doggie. When photographing a brown dog, it's good not to have him

sitting on a brown sofa.


Harder to see the shit stains.


elizabeth wrote:



What if J-P Sartre was right?

And hell will be stuck in a room with all the fucktards here??????????

Nietzsche is pietzsche, but Sartre is smartre.


David Hartung wrote: On 04/26/2012 08:35 PM, linuxgal wrote: David Hartung wrote: >

Consider this, the border between the USA and Mexico is about 1900

miles long. The border between the USA and Canada is about 5500 miles

long, add in over 12,000 miles of coastline and we have a total border

to seal of over 19,000 miles. Just how do you propose to seal this

border? >

Relocate the 700 overseas US bases to our border.


Is this a wise use of the resources we give to the government?

Provide for the common defense, not protect some warlord's poppy fields in Asscrackistan or send out boys out every night to dodge IEDs.


Barbarian Mutual wrote:

On Apr 22, 5:08 pm, First. Post <OccupiersDumberThanD...@invalid.net> wrote:

And just what kind of "heat wave" is occurring in Antarctica?


"Polar study finds Antarctica loses 10.2 billion tons of ice each

year"

And then it snows and they get it right back. Life is a big wheel.


Jeanne Douglas wrote: On Apr 25, 5:01 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:



Someone employed by ICR that has a PH.d. degree believes Noah's Flood was

the cause of the massive ice age. I believe it started about 110,000 years

and ended about 12,000 years ago. >

Jason


Huh?


How the hell would a flood cause a massive ice age?

"Easy on the bait, boys, we only got two worms." - Noah


Jason wrote:

In article <ua2dncXtGpzznwfSnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


David Fritzinger wrote: >

Of course, the ones who get their news from Fox and Limbaugh are, by

definition, not intelligent, since both sources lie.

But Err America was just SO trustworthy people couldn't stand it and

they had to go off the air.


Reason--no one listened to their radio stations. Who wants to listen to

listen to liberals on the radio when they can see them on MSNBC and CNN.

And ABC (Anything But Conservative), CBS (Communist Broadcasting Service), PBS (People's Bolshevik System), and NPR (National Progressive Radio).


Jason wrote:

In article

<09c7b15d-1306-4a22-a200-9963fd390dd4@f5g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>, Devils Advocaat <mankygoat7@gmail.com wrote: >

What evidence do you actually have that anyone lived so long back then?


My only evidence is the words in the Bible.

Dune is evidence of giant sandworms.



Jason wrote:


I did address it. I googled something like "global flood civilisation in

Egypt" and got thousands of hits. Some of them hits said that a global

flood did not happen in Egypt and some of the other hits said that a

global flood did happen in Egypt.

Very scientific. You should publish at ICR.


Mr.B1ack wrote:

Capitalism isn't magic. It works pretty well ... but

it suffers from systemic problems - positive feedback

creates endless 'boom'/'bust' cycles that really aren't

ideal for a 1st-world country.


Without creative destruction, you end up with all kinds of dinosaurs that outlive their day. Planet Earth is all about boom/bust cycles.


SkyEyes wrote:



Remember the old adage, Seth: "Never try and teach a pig to sing. It

wastes your time, and annoys the pig."


Yeah, look what happened when Roseanne Barr sang the National Anthem.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:35:51 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: >

Relocate the 700 overseas US bases to our border.


I'd go along with that.


Then we'd have immediate firepower to put down gunloons, loonytarians,

and simple-witted "anarchists" who get out of control

Why do you think fellow citizens in a free republic need to be controlled?


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:00:04 -0700 (PDT), Matt <matttelles@sprynet.com wrote:


Please explain how you plan to fix this problem, exactly what illegals

are

costing, and what your solution will cost. Then we can do a realistic

cost/benefit

analysis.


Maybe he could dig up the TX SecState's confirmation that one of the

biggest reasons for a surplus (at the time) was because of "illegals"


People get cause and effect mixed up sometimes. They see a volcano spew

  15 cubic miles of crap into the air, shutting down air travel over 

most of Europe, then pass laws banning plastic bags because it's humans that are messing up the environment.


Sid9 wrote:



Republican CONTROLLED the Senate with filibusters.

Good, after Nov 2012 it will be the Democrats' turn to CONTROL the Senate with filibusters.


Dutch wrote:

"felix_unger" <me@nothere.com wrote...


I'm inclined to think that time does not exist.


Do feet and inches exist?

Sometimes.


BroilJAB wrote:

Darwin admitted in his private letters that

evolution had inherent, fatal flaws.

Yes, it required hundreds of millions of years, and Lord Kelvin, using thermodynamic calculations, would only admit tens of millions of years for the age of the Earth. But Rutherford showed that radioactive isotopes deep inside the Earth could extend the timeline to billions of years.


Alan Ferris wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 05:24:57 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:


Stupid mullet. A coup is internal. Have you ever finished high school? >

• Says our Duke - who does not know the difference between cannon and canon.

Are you stinky in drag?


Did you find out what a mass card is yet? What about scapulars? You

were very confused about them once.

I don't even know what a mass card is. Are you talking about those little cards with St. Philomena and shit on them which the mafia sets on fire and makes you hold in your hands while you swear the Boy Scout Omerta Oath?


Brian E. Clark wrote:

In article <esedndlWw8yHOQXSnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@giganews.com>,

linuxgal@cleanposts.com says...


Yet, when he supposedly came to earth as his own son, he never had sex

with any woman, never married and hung around with 12 other guys. How gay

is that?

Not to mention knowing all the words to Jesus Christ, Superstar.


That doesn't count -- he had to participate in the play for

his high school drama club.


But there was no reason he and the disciples had to don

skates and perform "Starlight Express" in the temple

vestibule.


"Only You have the power to move me...."


Alan Ferris wrote:

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:33:32 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12 <tracey12email@gmail.com wrote: >

Americans' are sick of communism. It does not work, never has, never

will.


Clearly you know nothing about communism if you think your country is

heading that way.

Review the sad history of America's Original Inhabitants to see what entitlements can do to a once proud people.


2966 Dead wrote:


"Technically superior"--from the clowns who brought us Windows ME.


And Vista, DOS 4.0, EDLIN... If I wanted Windows I'd live in a greenhouse.


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 04:07:43 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:20:07 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: > Matt wrote: > > Nice to see the Gestapo have taken over the court.

GESTAPO: Government Enforcement Streamlined To Assist President Obama

Isn't your whine that government Is NOT doing anything?

I'm an anarcho-capitalist Taoist with an objectivist bent, my preference

is the government do nothing.


IOW, you didn't learn a fucking thing from history and that kind of

silly nonsense.


Being an oddity must serve whatever silly universe you live in.

"Civilization is the process of setting man free from men." --Ayn Rand


Slackjaw wrote: 2966 Dead wrote:


On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:47:58 -0700 (PDT), Phlip <phlip2005@gmail.com> wrote: >

As His Empire Crumbles Limbaugh Dares Boycotters With New Sandra

Fluke Attack

Is this the same Rush who keeps scrubbing his old Fluke attacks off

video sites like YouTube?

Oddly enough, yes.


And yet Rush is still here. So much for the boycott.


We're trying a girlcott next.


Alan Ferris wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:01:20 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:


By showing they lied? You have a strange

idea of the verb "to accept". Jesus of the

"prophecies" was not the messiah they

"predicted".

They misunderstood.


God lied to his prophets?

Not only did God lie to his prophets, he MADE them lie, and then killed them for lying.

Ezekiel 14:9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.


duke wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:49:40 -0400, ThomMadura <Tommadura@optonline.net wrote:


On 4/26/2012 6:24 PM, duke wrote: >

They can't see further back than 300,000 years after the big bang.

An interesting claim - support that they can SEE to that point only!


Before that, the universe was an "opaque soup".

Opaque using light, but not neutrinos. We just need a more reliable method of scattering neutrinos. Perhaps an sensor built with nanotechnology.


duke wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 05:27:52 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:


• I know that murder never had a statute of limitations but there may

have been some other crimes on CA's no limit crime list. I am not an

attorney.


Which means that the statute of limitations is not something developed by the

RCC.

You're talking about an organization that preaches that people born today are culpable for the sin of the first human beings thousands of years ago.


duke wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 04:10:26 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


while priests in Germany and Ireland shook their head at the US and went

"tsk tsk, it's an American problem".


The problem is with the man (that is priest), not the priest (that is man). It

doesn't matter what continent he comes from.


The problem is the celibacy requirement creates a perpetual shortage of priests, so the Church hierarchy has a vested interest in keeping the ones they have on the job no matter how sick they are. So they kick the pedo can down the road to another parish.


Devils Advocaat wrote: On Apr 22, 6:41 am, Mike Painter <md.pain...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

   THAT, plus
Surgeon Maurice Rawlings  documented experiences of bringing people
back from the dead via ressusitation and recording what they
experienced firsthand,  should be enough for anyone to expect Hell
and Heaven to be very real.  You choose it, and God grants it. Just
that simple.

He may have brought them back from clinical death but he did not bring

them back from biological death.


And Dr. Maurice Rawlings admits as much in his book "To Hell and

Back".

Death is DEFINED as the irreversible cessation of life. So anyone who comes back from the "dead" was never dead, by definition.


duke wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:18:02 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:


• Saul of Tarsus built the foundation of Mass.


Nope, Paul was the first Christian observed holding Mass in scripture after the

cross.


On the contrary, it is written (Acts 2:42) And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.


BroilJAB wrote:

Fred Hoyle vomited up in his twilight years about

the odds of a protozoan evolving into a human.

The oidds are pure bullshit.

--Exterminated poster 'Burdicka'

Every play poker? You get to hold some cards, and get re-dealt other cards. That improves your odds.


David Hartung wrote:


The Constitution does not define the term "natural born". That is my point.


The Founding Fathers assumed the latter generations of Americans would retain common sense.


Gary Forbis wrote:


No one is entitled to a profit.

No one is entitled to my product. They can obtain my product on my terms. My terms involve a substantial profit to overcome losses due to taxes and regulations and the general fuckedness of the universe. If they do not accept my terms, they can find another product.


David Hartung wrote: On 04/27/2012 03:03 AM, linuxgal wrote: Yoorghis@Jurgis.net wrote:

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:35:51 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote: >

Relocate the 700 overseas US bases to our border. >

I'd go along with that. >

Then we'd have immediate firepower to put down gunloons, loonytarians,

and simple-witted "anarchists" who get out of control >

Why do you think fellow citizens in a free republic need to be

controlled?


If we cower behind a wall, are we truly free?

I wouldn't call it cowering, I would call it force protection.


CB@PrayForMe.com wrote:

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:18:43 -0700, Martin Sheen <Martin.Sheen@spam.invalid wrote:


On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:03:55 -0400, "CB@PrayForMe.com" <CB@PrayForMe.com> wrote: >

1 Peter 2:24-25    
(24) who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we,

having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you

were healed. (25) For you were like sheep going astray, but have now

returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls. >

I would have preferred that Jesus would have been thrown into a volcano.


That will happen to you foe show...but into a Lake of Fire.

Not so bad. A Lake of Fire is a caldera. Yellowstone Park, a square sixty miles on a side, is about half caldera. Yellowstone rox.


David Fritzinger wrote:


"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts."

Daniel Patrick Moynihan


Everyone is entitled to my conservative facts.


• R. L. Measures. wrote:

In article <KeCdna2J7Kq8LAXSnZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@giganews.com>, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote:


Christopher A. Lee wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:10:30 +0100, Alan Ferris <hairy.ferrit@yahoo.co.uk wrote: >

"+ I'm thinkin about marrying my daughter on a cruise ship"

- P Barker 1Oct2003

I know a priest who married his sister. Her daughter sometimes calls

him Uncle and sometimes Father.

Abraham married his half-sister, and his son Isaac married his cousin,

so I guess Rebecca could call Abraham "Uncle Dad".


• I'm wondering what the Lot girls called the dad?

"Piece". As in, "Hey Judith, it's your turn to sneak a Piece."


trotsky wrote: On 4/25/12 10:04 PM, linuxgal wrote: trotsky wrote: On 4/25/12 6:03 AM, linuxgal wrote: BroilJAB wrote: > Obama frantic for votes is claiming that 'Mitt > was born with a silver spoon'. Laughing Mitt > quipped: Obama was born with a Cocker > Spaniel's bone in his mouth. >

How many Obama jokes are there? Three. The rest are facts. >

More proof that "right wing humor" is a bigger oxymoron than "rap

music". > >

What do you call 50 liberal politicians and 50 lesbians in the same room? >

One hundred people who don't do dick.


Apparently Republican obstructionism has eluded you.

Yeah, standing in the way of socialized medicine is "obstructionism" to libs. To me, it's a job well done.


Davej wrote: On Apr 25, 11:38 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com wrote:

I don't make the news, I only share it. Education is the best tool we have. >


Homosexuality is pervasive in the Catholic clergy. Be sure to share

this.

Well, I would share homosexuality, but I'm not eligible to be Catholic clergy.


wy wrote: On Apr 27, 9:48 am, jane <jane.pla...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 27, 9:36 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: > David Hartung wrote:

The Constitution does not define the term "natural born". That is my point.

The Founding Fathers assumed the latter generations of Americans would

retain common sense.

Actually, I disagree with you on that; I believe that the Founding

Fathers *knew* that latter generations of Americans would NOT have any

common sense. That is why they created a republic rather than a

democracy. >

50% of the people are below average.


Yeah, that's brilliant. 50% of people will be below average in

anything. In fact, 50% of people were below average at the time of

the Founding Fathers.

Obama is calling for an increase in $130 billion dollars to the teachers union because he received a report that 50% of US students are testing below average.


duke wrote: On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:43:38 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:


In article <vaogp7hgftuuf14ber1misk5lq2jup2qm3@4ax.com>, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:

>

It's in the bible effective 33AD. >

• Saul of Tarsus?


Jesus, John, Paul.

George, Ringo.


hypatiab7 wrote:



Isn't old Sol supposed to have novaed by then? If anyone is left

before that, hopefully they will have teleported away like they

did in the "Babylon 5" episode.

Mother Earth will always be our first, best world.


hypatiab7 wrote: On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:09:12 PM UTC-4, Jeanne Douglas wrote: On Mar 28, 11:43 am, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com wrote:

Authorities in Israel have documented both the

timeframe and the authenticity. There is zero

doubt this Ossuary satisfies all parameters.

Oh, really. >

Let's have a real citation. To a site that actually exists. >

He's probably babbling about the ossuary that proved to be a fraud

a few years ago.


There's some die hards who refuse to accept the C-14 dating of the Shroud of Turin to 1350 CE as well.


Foxtrot wrote:


The "pay gap" exists because employees, typically women, choose to leave

the workplace for long periods of time.

Pay gap is an artificial concept. In reality, labor is a commodity, and laborers and employers enter freely into an agreement where the laborer exchanges his or her services for money and other compensation, just as a supplier would do the same for his parts. When people toss around a term such as "pay gap" they are reinforcing a delusion that pay is an entitlement, or there's a baseline level of pay that is expected.


wy wrote: On Apr 27, 10:09 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: >

Obama is calling for an increase in $130 billion dollars to the teachers

union because he received a report that 50% of US students are testing

below average.


Well, it takes another brilliant right wingnut like you to not be able

to understand that it's not the 50% that counts, it's the "average".

What is the average now compared to 20 or 30 years ago? If it's below

what it was before, then the 50% testing below average now are

actually doing worse than before. Too bad that $130 billion didn't

materialize when you were in school, you might've ended up a bit more

above average and be so much smarter today compared to today's actual

average.

Maybe if USENET libs had at least a G.E.D. they would detect snark.


harry k wrote: On Apr 27, 12:52 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Jason wrote: >

I did address it. I googled something like "global flood civilisation in

Egypt" and got thousands of hits. Some of them hits said that a global

flood did not happen in Egypt and some of the other hits said that a

global flood did happen in Egypt.

Very scientific. You should publish at ICR.


He couldn't, he isn't smart enought to eliminate all the hits he found

sayign there was no flood. That would get him tossed out of the ICR

on his ear.

And that's quite an achievement, failing to meet ICR standards.


Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess wrote:

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:26:54 -0700 linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com wrote: hypatiab7 wrote: >

Isn't old Sol supposed to have novaed by then? If anyone is left

before that, hopefully they will have teleported away like they

did in the "Babylon 5" episode.

Mother Earth will always be our first, best world.


I was under the impression that Mother Earth was a giant computer.


Yes, you learn this by the fifth book in the increasingly mis-named Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Trilogy.


Mitchell Holman wrote:


   Guess which "liberal" network airs the 

Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity shows?


It's a setup for the Fairness Doctrine, or "Hush Rush" bill.


Alan Ferris wrote:

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:31:10 -0700, linuxgal <linuxgal@cleanposts.com> wrote:


duke wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:18:02 -0700, rL@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote: >

• Saul of Tarsus built the foundation of Mass.

Nope, Paul was the first Christian observed holding Mass in scripture after the

cross. >

On the contrary, it is written (Acts 2:42) And they continued stedfastly

in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and

in prayers.


Duke does not read the bible as shown by many of his stupid comments...

And it doesn't matter if he did, because any time I throw out scripture as a counter-example to one of his assinine statements, he deprecates it by denying Divine inspiration of the cited text.


2966 Dead wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 05:54:52 -0700, linuxgal wrote:


2966 Dead wrote: >

"Technically superior"--from the clowns who brought us Windows ME. >

And Vista, DOS 4.0, EDLIN... If I wanted Windows I'd live in a

greenhouse.


At least you can grow things in a greenhouse.

What's the difference between Windows and a virus? A virus works and it's free.


wy wrote: On Apr 27, 10:35 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com wrote: Foxtrot wrote: >

The "pay gap" exists because employees, typically women, choose to leave

the workplace for long periods of time.

Pay gap is an artificial concept. In reality, labor is a commodity, and

laborers and employers enter freely into an agreement where the laborer

exchanges his or her services for money and other compensation, just as

a supplier would do the same for his parts. When people toss around a

term such as "pay gap" they are reinforcing a delusion that pay is an

entitlement, or there's a baseline level of pay that is expected.


So you mean that when two people, one man and the other a woman, with

the same years of experience and level of proficiency work on the same

job, there's nothing wrong with the man earning 10% or 20% more than

the woman?

If the woman accepts the lower pay, then she gets everything she negotiated for. If the dumb moron is working for $4 dollars an hour she's giving the employer her finite, precious time and accepting $4 dollars an hour as compensation. Liberals getting the government to enforce a "minimum" wage is like conservatives getting the government to ban television shows with women kissing each other.

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